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    Guaranteed Winners?

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    AceRothstein27
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 9:54 AM ET #1

    Good Morning, 

    A person i know is in what seems like a very profitable situation. He has two sportsbooks who both offer him 10% back on losing weeks, no matter what. If he wins $1000 week 1, then loses $1000 week 2, he receives $100 back for his week 2 losses. 

     

    My question to you all is: How can he guarantee himself profitable weeks? He can bet any sport and horses, futures, props, parlays and teasers. 

    There are times where the two books have different lines but this is rare and doesn’t happen often enough to secure profits week in and week out. 

    If there’s any mathematician or veteran sports gambler who could offer some help, my pal would surely appreciate it.

    Thanks all

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    Good Morning, 

    A person i know is in what seems like a very profitable situation. He has two sportsbooks who both offer him 10% back on losing weeks, no matter what. If he wins $1000 week 1, then loses $1000 week 2, he receives $100 back for his week 2 losses. 

     

    My question to you all is: How can he guarantee himself profitable weeks? He can bet any sport and horses, futures, props, parlays and teasers. 

    There are times where the two books have different lines but this is rare and doesn’t happen often enough to secure profits week in and week out. 

    If there’s any mathematician or veteran sports gambler who could offer some help, my pal would surely appreciate it.

    Thanks all

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 2:10 PM ET #2

    @AceRothstein27

     Bet individual games, stay away from parlays. And do your research, there's information that can help make a more informed decision. Be consistent with your bets, don't bet $200 on one game and $500 on another. Don't chase, i.e., lose on Sunday, bet on Monday to "get your money back." 40 years of free advicepeace_5

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    @AceRothstein27

     Bet individual games, stay away from parlays. And do your research, there's information that can help make a more informed decision. Be consistent with your bets, don't bet $200 on one game and $500 on another. Don't chase, i.e., lose on Sunday, bet on Monday to "get your money back." 40 years of free advicepeace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 2:13 PM ET #3

    Stay within -110 and +120 on wagers and you'll never go wrong with a 10% payback.

    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Stay within -110 and +120 on wagers and you'll never go wrong with a 10% payback.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 4:07 PM ET #4

    If you only get 10% return on losses there is no strategy/combination that will guarrantee a profitable week unless he picks more winners then losers. You are thinking like a sucker.

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    If you only get 10% return on losses there is no strategy/combination that will guarrantee a profitable week unless he picks more winners then losers. You are thinking like a sucker.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 4:29 PM ET #5

    @666LES

     Yes, you still have to pick winners, can't just arbitrarily pick. @ -110 I believe the break even point is 52.4 percent. If you can hit 3 out of 5 consistently you're in the black.

     

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    @666LES

     Yes, you still have to pick winners, can't just arbitrarily pick. @ -110 I believe the break even point is 52.4 percent. If you can hit 3 out of 5 consistently you're in the black.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2021 - 2:02 AM ET #6

    @AceRothstein27

     The value is, and always will be (exclusive to the NFL) 'dogs' concentrate on the handicap; week #1 produced 8 dog WINNERS, 6 on the ML "listen to em' they bark every week" they're their, attached to the ultimate value of cappin' the NFL...WIN, have fun, enjoy yourself, or simply forget about it.

    have a pro$perous season

    clover

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    @AceRothstein27

     The value is, and always will be (exclusive to the NFL) 'dogs' concentrate on the handicap; week #1 produced 8 dog WINNERS, 6 on the ML "listen to em' they bark every week" they're their, attached to the ultimate value of cappin' the NFL...WIN, have fun, enjoy yourself, or simply forget about it.

    have a pro$perous season

    clover

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2021 - 2:30 PM ET #7

    I could shitt in a box and mark it “ Guaranteed “

    but pardon my artistry and smart alecky

    jargon like a dart that’s so sharp you’re about to scream

    At the end of the day

    all you have is a “ Guaranteed Piece of Shitt “

    this isn’t my speech , it’s Chris Farley’s , Callahan Auto , eat a dicck……..

     

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    I could shitt in a box and mark it “ Guaranteed “

    but pardon my artistry and smart alecky

    jargon like a dart that’s so sharp you’re about to scream

    At the end of the day

    all you have is a “ Guaranteed Piece of Shitt “

    this isn’t my speech , it’s Chris Farley’s , Callahan Auto , eat a dicck……..

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2021 - 3:32 PM ET #8

    So my friend has been making money when the lines are different. For example he has a bet tonight on total bases on a player, Over 1.5 +152 and under 1.5 -150.  This is a $500 bet on each account. So if this is his only bet for the week, he is guaranteed $50 profit or $60 profit depending which side cashes due to his 10% back. 

     

    I think some of you missed the point or maybe i worded it in a confusing manner,

    what are some ways to get the bets to essentially offset each other and cash in on the 10%, besides finding the rare arbitrage opportunity. 

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    So my friend has been making money when the lines are different. For example he has a bet tonight on total bases on a player, Over 1.5 +152 and under 1.5 -150.  This is a $500 bet on each account. So if this is his only bet for the week, he is guaranteed $50 profit or $60 profit depending which side cashes due to his 10% back. 

     

    I think some of you missed the point or maybe i worded it in a confusing manner,

    what are some ways to get the bets to essentially offset each other and cash in on the 10%, besides finding the rare arbitrage opportunity. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2021 - 7:41 PM ET #9

    As usual, MAKE SURE THE BOOK PAYS OUT. Of course, it's easy to get your money in an_boggienight but when you want to withdraw? Next to impossible. confusedangry

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    "Schrödinger's bet." A bet that loses when you bet it but wins when you DON'T bet it...
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    As usual, MAKE SURE THE BOOK PAYS OUT. Of course, it's easy to get your money in an_boggienight but when you want to withdraw? Next to impossible. confusedangry

    clover

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 1:28 PM ET #10

    @mrusso

     Very very very ?? advice my friend! Don't go on TILT after a few losses, 110% correct don't chase. Do u have any games u like today my friend? I'm in desperate of a couple of winnin picks/bets bcuz I've been losing my ass off lol smh! UCF & Maryland did me so dirty last night ?? ?? Fml ?? ??

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    @mrusso

     Very very very ?? advice my friend! Don't go on TILT after a few losses, 110% correct don't chase. Do u have any games u like today my friend? I'm in desperate of a couple of winnin picks/bets bcuz I've been losing my ass off lol smh! UCF & Maryland did me so dirty last night ?? ?? Fml ?? ??

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 1:35 PM ET #11

    @mrusso

     Disregard those question marks b/c I was trying to use some pissed off emojis & the smh head emoji & it just pops up all of these ?????? Smh whack af lol. Who do u like today my friend??? Please hook up a fellow sportsbettor, pretty PWEASEEEEEE lol. I'm dead serious tho, hook me up pretty please good sir! Stay safe & God bless friend.

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    @mrusso

     Disregard those question marks b/c I was trying to use some pissed off emojis & the smh head emoji & it just pops up all of these ?????? Smh whack af lol. Who do u like today my friend??? Please hook up a fellow sportsbettor, pretty PWEASEEEEEE lol. I'm dead serious tho, hook me up pretty please good sir! Stay safe & God bless friend.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2021 - 12:22 AM ET #12

    Seems like you win no matter what.

     You bet $11,000 to win $10,000 on team A at 1 book, then you bet their opponent at the other book for the same. You win $10,000 at 1 book and lose $9900 at the other book ($11,000-1100 refund = $9900).

    So that's $100 a week profit guaranteed. Find a game with 1/2 difference. Maybe you get a push and a win every so often.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Seems like you win no matter what.

     You bet $11,000 to win $10,000 on team A at 1 book, then you bet their opponent at the other book for the same. You win $10,000 at 1 book and lose $9900 at the other book ($11,000-1100 refund = $9900).

    So that's $100 a week profit guaranteed. Find a game with 1/2 difference. Maybe you get a push and a win every so often.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2021 - 12:23 AM ET #13

    * And any book that would offer this, is a book that you need to stay away from. Sounds real desperate.

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    * And any book that would offer this, is a book that you need to stay away from. Sounds real desperate.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2021 - 1:54 AM ET #14

    old timer here also and MR RUSSO said it all follow that advice peace_5

    life moves fast you could miss it if you dont stop to look around
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    old timer here also and MR RUSSO said it all follow that advice peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2022 - 5:27 PM ET #15

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     Hit up UK over this weekend"

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    @Vegeta0109

     Hit up UK over this weekend"

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2022 - 12:37 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny9999:

    * And any book that would offer this, is a book that you need to stay away from. Sounds real desperate.

     

    Absolutely wrong lol.

    I have a book that gives 10% discount on all losing weeks.

    I have another that gives a 5% rebate on all losing weeks,and a 5% rebate on all horse bets.

     

    NEVER had a problem getting paid. Of course I always pay on time, so maybe that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny9999:

    * And any book that would offer this, is a book that you need to stay away from. Sounds real desperate.

     

    Absolutely wrong lol.

    I have a book that gives 10% discount on all losing weeks.

    I have another that gives a 5% rebate on all losing weeks,and a 5% rebate on all horse bets.

     

    NEVER had a problem getting paid. Of course I always pay on time, so maybe that helps.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2022 - 7:00 PM ET #17

    My friends and I have a local guy that gives us 20% back on our losses

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    My friends and I have a local guy that gives us 20% back on our losses

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2022 - 3:09 AM ET #18

    It's all a mute point anyway because everyone claims to win long term 

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    It's all a mute point anyway because everyone claims to win long term 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchcity23:

    My friends and I have a local guy that gives us 20% back on our losses

     

    So bet $55,000 to win $50,000 on USC -2

    Then somewhere else bet $49,170 to win $44,700 on Utah + 2

    USC covers, you win $830 profit 

    Utah covers you win $700 profit 

    Do the same every week for a year. Guaranteed $40,000 profit in a year with no way to lose. 

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchcity23:

    My friends and I have a local guy that gives us 20% back on our losses

     

    So bet $55,000 to win $50,000 on USC -2

    Then somewhere else bet $49,170 to win $44,700 on Utah + 2

    USC covers, you win $830 profit 

    Utah covers you win $700 profit 

    Do the same every week for a year. Guaranteed $40,000 profit in a year with no way to lose. 

     

     

     

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