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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Apparently this poster believes only aged white males are attractive.


What a joke..

That's not what he said.  Aged white male and aged black females can both be unattractive.  

Separate but equal.  Get with the times please 
 
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Wellmrule of thumb for cashiers if they don't look like the ppl on the bills then we ID them.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


So Centaur, I ask you, do you have any black friends?

If your answer is no, I'll actually be relieved and at a minimum, you'd be consistent with your postings here in that regard.

If you say yes, I ask you, would you have the courage to show them the exact post in quotes above?

Just curious. I'd pay to see you read them that post above. Good money too...


What do any of your semantic contortions have to do with my statement?  Who cares who I would or would not show a post to?  Is what I said the truth?  By your logic people aren't ugly if you wouldn't tell them to their face, and I guess a raging wild feral dog should be allowed to feast on your cat if you don't have the courage to walk up and take it out of it's mouth.

I have never witnessed in my lifetime the racism towards blacks we are constantly and relentlessly reminded about.  I'm no young kid either.  I'll tell you what I have witnessed though.  In ur face unaccountable unchecked racism from blacks, towards me and towards others I've known.  

That isn't even the issue in this case though.  We are constantly beaten over the head with the narrative of equality, but they are obscenely over represented and favored, such as in this case with the $20 bill.  Should she be remembered or commemorated?  Sure, why not.  Put on the face of I would think the 2nd most used bill in our currency?  It's ridiculous.  To compare her life and influence on this country to Andrew Jackson's is nothing short of ridiculous.  

Then when someone says it's ridiculous, a pc lemming special operative asks if you would dare show that post to someone.  Not "that isn't correct," or "your facts are wrong and here's why" but just the old "ur a racist!  OMG OMG!"

You see scal, someone once said (probably Orwell) "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  It sure seems like one of those times.  I don't want to go around insulting and putting down people, but when the lies and propaganda have created such an imbalance, the truth needs to be delivered with a few extra pounds.


 
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I have seen plenty of racism towards African Americans and other minorities, as well as discrimination and bigotted behavior toward sexual orientations, women, immigrants, non English speakers, elderly, disabled etc

The problem is that racism is not a back and forth thing because of power dynamics of the majority culture. This could be on numbers, this could be in power differential, but to say a minority is racist in a true sense just doesn't work. 

I know majority culture would like it to be tit for tat, but it's more complicated than that. Try being a white person in a country and culture where you are out numbered, treated differently, don't have access to food, language, basics because you are the minority culture.  That is where I found true racism by travelling, experiencing that for myself and having a better exposure of the world. So to cry about it in America in terms of reverse-racism silly.   

Please racists go crazy now 


 
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And just for the record i honestly could care less if Tubman is on $20 and could care less that she is not.  I think changing it is stupid and I also think having a hissy fit over it being changed is stupid. 

I think this will show us that we need better policies and procedures on how decisions on how our currency is visually designed and change it to something that perhaps a majority of the country would want and not just a few with an agenda. 

Maybe I'm wrong here but based on this thread I would think majority culture America hates this change 
 
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Just put Oprah on it if it must be a racial choice
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:


What do any of your semantic contortions have to do with my statement?  Who cares who I would or would not show a post to?  Is what I said the truth?  By your logic people aren't ugly if you wouldn't tell them to their face, and I guess a raging wild feral dog should be allowed to feast on your cat if you don't have the courage to walk up and take it out of it's mouth.

I have never witnessed in my lifetime the racism towards blacks we are constantly and relentlessly reminded about.  I'm no young kid either.  I'll tell you what I have witnessed though.  In ur face unaccountable unchecked racism from blacks, towards me and towards others I've known.  

That isn't even the issue in this case though.  We are constantly beaten over the head with the narrative of equality, but they are obscenely over represented and favored, such as in this case with the $20 bill.  Should she be remembered or commemorated?  Sure, why not.  Put on the face of I would think the 2nd most used bill in our currency?  It's ridiculous.  To compare her life and influence on this country to Andrew Jackson's is nothing short of ridiculous.  

Then when someone says it's ridiculous, a pc lemming special operative asks if you would dare show that post to someone.  Not "that isn't correct," or "your facts are wrong and here's why" but just the old "ur a racist!  OMG OMG!"

You see scal, someone once said (probably Orwell) "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  It sure seems like one of those times.  I don't want to go around insulting and putting down people, but when the lies and propaganda have created such an imbalance, the truth needs to be delivered with a few extra pounds.


Is what I said the truth?

 

Lol. Uh, the truth according to who? You?

I assume you aren't married. If you wife asks you if she looks fat in a dress and you say "Yes! I'm only telling the truth!" you won't be married to any women on earth for more than a month.

And who in their right mind would look at a historical figure and their contributions to society/the country and immediately gauge their....attractiveness?

When you were introduced to the picture of George Washington in grammar school, did you come away from the lesson saying, "Boy, that guy sure was ugly!"

You resort to the lowest common denominator when it comes to blacks and in this case, you take one of the greatest black historical figures and degrade her....face.

So I ask again:

1) Do you have any black friends?

2) Would you show them the previous quoted post if you did?

If 1) is 'No', then this is a nonissue. I certainly wouldn't care if you didn't have black friends but I'm curious as to if you do given what you post here because many people post/speak like you and proudly proclaim they do.

 

 
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Donald Trump- when asked if he'd care to comment
only said    "Got change for a twenty?"
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Is what I said the truth?

 

Lol. Uh, the truth according to who? You?

I assume you aren't married. If you wife asks you if she looks fat in a dress and you say "Yes! I'm only telling the truth!" you won't be married to any women on earth for more than a month.

And who in their right mind would look at a historical figure and their contributions to society/the country and immediately gauge their....attractiveness?

When you were introduced to the picture of George Washington in grammar school, did you come away from the lesson saying, "Boy, that guy sure was ugly!"

You resort to the lowest common denominator when it comes to blacks and in this case, you take one of the greatest black historical figures and degrade her....face.

So I ask again:

1) Do you have any black friends?

2) Would you show them the previous quoted post if you did?

If 1) is 'No', then this is a nonissue. I certainly wouldn't care if you didn't have black friends but I'm curious as to if you do given what you post here because many people post/speak like you and proudly proclaim they do.

 

Good God man what in the hell are you trying to say?

I am married, and if my wife is a few or several pounds overweight there is a difference between me being sensitive to her feelings in person and lobbying to have her be on the cover of Vogue.

One thing you and lemmings like you just don't seem to grasp: The truth is separate from feelings.  Today we are constantly lied to on account of a small percentage of the population's feelings.  It doesn't even have to do with percentage of population though.  No matter who it's about a lie is a lie.  It's more commonly known as political correctness, and it's an American epidemic.

As far as Tubman's looks, it is the truth she is not easy on the eyes but has little to do with my opinion on her being on the $20.

There were many other white people you probably never heard of who played a much bigger role in abolishing slavery, but she was black so release the lies and pandering.

Let's see, Washington, Lincoln, Hamilton, Jackson, Grant, Franklin, and...Tubman.  Wake the fuk up and give me a fuking break
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:


Who cares?  Up until now we could semi ignore the pandering to 12% of the population by turning the channel or tuning out the dead horse narrative for a day or even a month.  

Now we have to see her troll face multiple times of every day.  She freed like 70 family and friends from slavery and worked for the government scouting lands she was familiar with.  Big stinking dealio.  

Put her on a limited edition quarter or more appropriately like goose said, put her hologram image on EBT cards and into the hands of those who would most appreciate it.

Does anyone need any more evidence that you are a babbling idiot  ?

I don't 

Before you created the thread, did you do any research ?

Jackson should not be on any bill . Period

Do you even know who Andrew Jackson was and what he did ?

more stupid gibberish talk from you 

The Indian Removal Act was passed by Congress on May 28, 1830, during the presidency of Andrew Jackson. The law authorized the president to negotiate with southern Indian tribes for their removal to federal territory west of the Mississippi River in exchange for their ancestral homelands.

This piece of garbage was not only a slave owner , he also committed Native Indian genocide (Indian Removal Act) to get more lands for cultivation by slave plantations. Make it two crimes against humanity.

During the war of 1812, General Jackson suspended habea corpus and executed prisoners for minor infractions.

why was Andrew Jackson commemorated by the U.S government ?

Andrew Jackson could not even hold a candle to his predecessor John Quincy Adams (US president with the highest IQ)


 
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Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

Good God man what in the hell are you trying to say?

I am married, and if my wife is a few or several pounds overweight there is a difference between me being sensitive to her feelings in person and lobbying to have her be on the cover of Vogue.

One thing you and lemmings like you just don't seem to grasp: The truth is separate from feelings.  Today we are constantly lied to on account of a small percentage of the population's feelings.  It doesn't even have to do with percentage of population though.  No matter who it's about a lie is a lie.  It's more commonly known as political correctness, and it's an American epidemic.

As far as Tubman's looks, it is the truth she is not easy on the eyes but has little to do with my opinion on her being on the $20.

There were many other white people you probably never heard of who played a much bigger role in abolishing slavery, but she was black so release the lies and pandering.

Let's see, Washington, Lincoln, Hamilton, Jackson, Grant, Franklin, and...Tubman.  Wake the fuk up and give me a fuking break


More crap from you 

You talk just for the sake of talking 

1) what lies are you referring to ?

2) what do you know about U.S history that the rest of us don't ?

3) Care to elaborate on those lies about Harriet Tubman or Andrew Jackson ?

4) Are you butt-hurt  Harriet Tubman will be on the 20 dollars bill ? 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:

Put her ugly face on the EBT card and leave Jackson
alone.


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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


Does anyone need any more evidence that you are a babbling idiot  ?

I don't 

Before you created the thread, did you do any research ?

Jackson should not be on any bill . Period

Do you even know who Andrew Jackson was and what he did ?

more stupid gibberish talk from you 

The Indian Removal Act was passed by Congress on May 28, 1830, during the presidency of Andrew Jackson. The law authorized the president to negotiate with southern Indian tribes for their removal to federal territory west of the Mississippi River in exchange for their ancestral homelands.

This piece of garbage was not only a slave owner , he also committed Native Indian genocide (Indian Removal Act) to get more lands for cultivation by slave plantations. Make it two crimes against humanity.

During the war of 1812, General Jackson suspended habea corpus and executed prisoners for minor infractions.

why was Andrew Jackson commemorated by the U.S government ?

Andrew Jackson could not even hold a candle to his predecessor John Quincy Adams (US president with the highest IQ)



You driveling troll

Are you really going to write paragraphs of biased revisionism and pass it off as damning evidence?

To compare Jackson's social views with today and then say, "Look he was a bad guy" is the height of intellectual dishonesty.  Don't come at me with that filth.

Then after you pine over the poor native American Indians, who killed and took land from each other long before whites ever got here, you say nothing about Jackson's crucial roles in the military and politics. 

Instead you decide to concentrate on the most controversial part of his presidency, the Indian Removal Act, which was a result of escalating tensions between Indians and whites in the south mostly because of those Indians refusing to abide by terms of treaties.  He could have just killed them which is how Indian tribes usually dealt with other enemy Indian tribes. 

Oh oh but he was slave owner in the south what a bad guy!  It was legal and common at the time, and by many accounts he was quite benevolent keeping families together, supplying them with guns and supplies for hunting and fishing, and actually paying them for their work.

Obviously he was not perfect, no one is.  Yet you want to criticize errors in how he handles those who want to kill his people.  Let me guess, you think blacks are at the mercy of a corrupt police force and Islamic terrorists should be handled humanely, am I right?  

I have already spent too much time responding to your idiocy.  Tubman was an illiterate law breaker who although she freed several of her family and friends, was relatively insignificant in not just the the nation's history but even in the history of slavery.  It's only through revisionism and an awful POTUS that she is to be put on a $20 bill instead of a stamp.



 
 
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"Let's see, Washington, Lincoln, Hamilton, Jackson, Grant, Franklin, and...Tubman.  Wake the fuk up and give me a fuking break"


You forgot Jefferson on the $2 Bill,

Maybe she should go there.

Or we could make a new $3 Bill. 
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The new tubbies remind of pancakes and it is come to a point when people can't even joke about the obvious. I give you that damn first amendment Freedom of speech.
 
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I hop breakfast with a side of grits for a tubbie you could get two.
 
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Are you really going to write paragraphs of biased revisionism and pass it off as damning evidence?

To compare Jackson's social views with today and then say, "Look he was a bad guy" is the height of intellectual dishonesty.  Don't come at me with that filth.

Then after you pine over the poor native American Indians, who killed and took land from each other long before whites ever got here, you say nothing about Jackson's crucial roles in the military and politics. 

If history is biased revisionism, why are you so butt-hurt Harriet Tubman will be on the 20 dollars ?
You only like some parts of american history.
You are disputing historical facts
That's why you are a babbling idiot
nothing productive to say.
You are the one writing long paragraphs.


Andrew Jackson should be in a museum with his atrocities. Not someone to see whenever we spend money.
what intellectual dishonesty ?
You are no intellectual dude 
insecure white male . yes you are 

Historical facts are not about me. what crucial roles ?
what the hell are you talking about ?
Typical racist drivel. It's OK for Jackson to do what he did because Indians were doing it to each other. Where do you get that ? the same argument that blacks were also slave owners so slavery was not so bad
Still sounding like an idiot


Go back to school dude . Indians refusing to abide by terms of treaties.
where did you get that BS ?

That's your own version of revisionism  


the slaves were the abusers who wanted to kill Jackson's people  ..If you were enslaved. would you like the slavers ?. What does Slavery have to do with Islamic terrorists. The slaves were no terrorists. the slavers  were terrorists. 

Before you call people idiot, you need to review your posts. Not only this one but a lot of other posts at Covers.

Tubman was a law breaker ..  

 
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Harriet Tubman was an American abolitionist, humanitarian, and an armed scout and spy for the United States Army during the American Civil War.

An escaped slave spying for  the Union . Do you have any idea how brave that woman was and how dangerous her job was ?
 
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ilsp2003 saying I'm an insecure white male because I point out why Tubman has no business being on the $20 bill 

We all get it bro, you hate whitey and think he owes 40 acres and a mule.

I'm so sick of responding logically and point by point to zombies like you only to have the answers ignored and receive more insults and demands for proof.  I stated a main cause of the removal of Indians in the south was their propensity for not abiding by treaties.  
Now you disprove that, douchebag.  Just because you haven't read about or heard something doesn't make it untrue.  Kind of like just because you missed me mentioning Tubman scouting lands earlier in this thread doesn't mean it didn't happen,  and it doesn't make you some hero of enlightenment when you just mentioned it.  Just makes you look like the biased, dishonest, logic-challenged fool that you are.

Now go circle jerk with your friends scal sharpton and dl36 in some worthless liberal fantasy thread while you jagoff to an image of the proposed new $20 bill

 
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How did I get involved in this? Didn't I say that I was not for the change and thought it was stupid?

Didn't I disagree with scalabrine 's comment when he tried to spin Slovaks post?

Jeez, go back and ready the thread and try to make a statement based on facts and history rather then expressing to us how you feel
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

How did I get involved in this? Didn't I say that I was not for the change and thought it was stupid?

Didn't I disagree with scalabrine 's comment when he tried to spin Slovaks post?

Jeez, go back and ready the thread and try to make a statement based on facts and history rather then expressing to us how you feel
Ur right you did shock me with some reasonable posts in this thread

The reason you came up is I looked at lisp2003's most recent post and it was in some lefty thread and you were in there having a liborgy with him and some others

Since you have shown an ability to think though you will be on the watch list 
 
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lol don't mistake my real views and posts for me commenting on SAFs having total meltdowns 
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_freedmen

And yes, some of the indigenous American Indians - in this example, the Choctaw - owned black slaves and sided with the confederacy too.


There
Now we have come full circle and
I just blew everyone's mind.....
 
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Oh snap!
 
 
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If the US Mint uses the picture of Tubman that was flashed on the network news people will be kind if they only call a 20 a 'Tubman'.
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