Well I think most of us can agree that the pygmy slaughter is just another example of racist butchering that blacks commit on that continent. Whether it be Hutus slaughtering 800k Tutsis in Rwanda or PLA leaders in the Congo slaughtering any other members of different tribes. It's been going on for a thousand years. India the caste system, South America Indian ancestry is considered totally inferior......goes on and on all over the world and it'll never end. All is racist attitude because of certain physical attributes, beliefs, skin color, whatever.
The biggest race war is between lions and Hyenas. Holy mother of god do those two hate one another.
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Well I think most of us can agree that the pygmy slaughter is just another example of racist butchering that blacks commit on that continent. Whether it be Hutus slaughtering 800k Tutsis in Rwanda or PLA leaders in the Congo slaughtering any other members of different tribes. It's been going on for a thousand years. India the caste system, South America Indian ancestry is considered totally inferior......goes on and on all over the world and it'll never end. All is racist attitude because of certain physical attributes, beliefs, skin color, whatever.
The biggest race war is between lions and Hyenas. Holy mother of god do those two hate one another.
Well I think most of us can agree that the pygmy slaughter is just another example of racist butchering that blacks commit on that continent. Whether it be Hutus slaughtering 800k Tutsis in Rwanda or PLA leaders in the Congo slaughtering any other members of different tribes. It's been going on for a thousand years. India the caste system, South America Indian ancestry is considered totally inferior......goes on and on all over the world and it'll never end. All is racist attitude because of certain physical attributes, beliefs, skin color, whatever.
The biggest race war is between lions and Hyenas. Holy mother of god do those two hate one another.
As long as they have the numbers, I'll side with the hyenas.
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:
Well I think most of us can agree that the pygmy slaughter is just another example of racist butchering that blacks commit on that continent. Whether it be Hutus slaughtering 800k Tutsis in Rwanda or PLA leaders in the Congo slaughtering any other members of different tribes. It's been going on for a thousand years. India the caste system, South America Indian ancestry is considered totally inferior......goes on and on all over the world and it'll never end. All is racist attitude because of certain physical attributes, beliefs, skin color, whatever.
The biggest race war is between lions and Hyenas. Holy mother of god do those two hate one another.
As long as they have the numbers, I'll side with the hyenas.
DL36’s answer is like criminal lyin Hillary’s answer to what were the major accomplishments of her tenure as Secretary of State.
She answered, "My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked. My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know. The remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn't do that. Very proud. I would say that's a major accomplishment."
All the sheep went Baaaaaaaaaaaah in agreement when she answered. Everyone with a brain thought, WHAT? That’s not even an answer!
Thecentaur asks DL36, what’s your definition of racism? He answered, “Racism to me is a complex system of beliefs, but also that it manifests itself in a cultural, societal, political, economic, etc level. “
Everyone with a brain thought, NO SH1T Sherlock, it’s a complex system of beliefs, LOL! That wasn’t a real answer. It was just a bunch of gibberish. Hillary teaches her sheep very well, LOL!
I knew you would duck me DL36! LOL! Even though you ducked my post directed at you. I’ll still answer your question. What's my definition of racism?
Racism is to prejudge a person based on race, to discriminate based on race, to claim superiority over another race or to look down at a race with pity, sympathy, or as inferior. It’s basically anyone that’s a liberal democrat or a closeted democrat that claims “independent” out of shame.
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DL36’s answer is like criminal lyin Hillary’s answer to what were the major accomplishments of her tenure as Secretary of State.
She answered, "My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked. My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know. The remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn't do that. Very proud. I would say that's a major accomplishment."
All the sheep went Baaaaaaaaaaaah in agreement when she answered. Everyone with a brain thought, WHAT? That’s not even an answer!
Thecentaur asks DL36, what’s your definition of racism? He answered, “Racism to me is a complex system of beliefs, but also that it manifests itself in a cultural, societal, political, economic, etc level. “
Everyone with a brain thought, NO SH1T Sherlock, it’s a complex system of beliefs, LOL! That wasn’t a real answer. It was just a bunch of gibberish. Hillary teaches her sheep very well, LOL!
I knew you would duck me DL36! LOL! Even though you ducked my post directed at you. I’ll still answer your question. What's my definition of racism?
Racism is to prejudge a person based on race, to discriminate based on race, to claim superiority over another race or to look down at a race with pity, sympathy, or as inferior. It’s basically anyone that’s a liberal democrat or a closeted democrat that claims “independent” out of shame.
DL36’s answer is like criminal lyin Hillary’s answer to what were the major accomplishments of her tenure as Secretary of State.
She answered, "My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked. My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know. The remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn't do that. Very proud. I would say that's a major accomplishment."
All the sheep went Baaaaaaaaaaaah in agreement when she answered. Everyone with a brain thought, WHAT? That’s not even an answer!
Thecentaur asks DL36, what’s your definition of racism? He answered, “Racism to me is a complex system of beliefs, but also that it manifests itself in a cultural, societal, political, economic, etc level. “
Everyone with a brain thought, NO SH1T Sherlock, it’s a complex system of beliefs, LOL! That wasn’t a real answer. It was just a bunch of gibberish. Hillary teaches her sheep very well, LOL!
I knew you would duck me DL36! LOL! Even though you ducked my post directed at you. I’ll still answer your question. What's my definition of racism?
Racism is to prejudge a person based on race, to discriminate based on race, to claim superiority over another race or to look down at a race with pity, sympathy, or as inferior. It’s basically anyone that’s a liberal democrat or a closeted democrat that claims “independent” out of shame.
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
DL36’s answer is like criminal lyin Hillary’s answer to what were the major accomplishments of her tenure as Secretary of State.
She answered, "My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked. My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know. The remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn't do that. Very proud. I would say that's a major accomplishment."
All the sheep went Baaaaaaaaaaaah in agreement when she answered. Everyone with a brain thought, WHAT? That’s not even an answer!
Thecentaur asks DL36, what’s your definition of racism? He answered, “Racism to me is a complex system of beliefs, but also that it manifests itself in a cultural, societal, political, economic, etc level. “
Everyone with a brain thought, NO SH1T Sherlock, it’s a complex system of beliefs, LOL! That wasn’t a real answer. It was just a bunch of gibberish. Hillary teaches her sheep very well, LOL!
I knew you would duck me DL36! LOL! Even though you ducked my post directed at you. I’ll still answer your question. What's my definition of racism?
Racism is to prejudge a person based on race, to discriminate based on race, to claim superiority over another race or to look down at a race with pity, sympathy, or as inferior. It’s basically anyone that’s a liberal democrat or a closeted democrat that claims “independent” out of shame.
DL36’s answer is like criminal lyin Hillary’s answer to what were the major accomplishments of her tenure as Secretary of State.
She answered, "My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked. My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know. The remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn't do that. Very proud. I would say that's a major accomplishment."
All the sheep went Baaaaaaaaaaaah in agreement when she answered. Everyone with a brain thought, WHAT? That’s not even an answer!
Thecentaur asks DL36, what’s your definition of racism? He answered, “Racism to me is a complex system of beliefs, but also that it manifests itself in a cultural, societal, political, economic, etc level. “
Everyone with a brain thought, NO SH1T Sherlock, it’s a complex system of beliefs, LOL! That wasn’t a real answer. It was just a bunch of gibberish. Hillary teaches her sheep very well, LOL!
I knew you would duck me DL36! LOL! Even though you ducked my post directed at you. I’ll still answer your question. What's my definition of racism?
Racism is to prejudge a person based on race, to discriminate based on race, to claim superiority over another race or to look down at a race with pity, sympathy, or as inferior. It’s basically anyone that’s a liberal democrat or a closeted democrat that claims “independent” out of shame.
It's funny that you compare me to Hillary and try to frame me as liberal or whatever. I am neither a liberal or a Hillary supporter and have been against Hillary for years. I also voted for Cruz btw.
I think that to assume that everyone would agree it is complex is not correct. There are some that would compare aomethjng complex like racism to dunking a basketball...
Oh wait you said anyone with a brain... I guess we are in agreement...
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
DL36’s answer is like criminal lyin Hillary’s answer to what were the major accomplishments of her tenure as Secretary of State.
She answered, "My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked. My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know. The remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn't do that. Very proud. I would say that's a major accomplishment."
All the sheep went Baaaaaaaaaaaah in agreement when she answered. Everyone with a brain thought, WHAT? That’s not even an answer!
Thecentaur asks DL36, what’s your definition of racism? He answered, “Racism to me is a complex system of beliefs, but also that it manifests itself in a cultural, societal, political, economic, etc level. “
Everyone with a brain thought, NO SH1T Sherlock, it’s a complex system of beliefs, LOL! That wasn’t a real answer. It was just a bunch of gibberish. Hillary teaches her sheep very well, LOL!
I knew you would duck me DL36! LOL! Even though you ducked my post directed at you. I’ll still answer your question. What's my definition of racism?
Racism is to prejudge a person based on race, to discriminate based on race, to claim superiority over another race or to look down at a race with pity, sympathy, or as inferior. It’s basically anyone that’s a liberal democrat or a closeted democrat that claims “independent” out of shame.
It's funny that you compare me to Hillary and try to frame me as liberal or whatever. I am neither a liberal or a Hillary supporter and have been against Hillary for years. I also voted for Cruz btw.
I think that to assume that everyone would agree it is complex is not correct. There are some that would compare aomethjng complex like racism to dunking a basketball...
Oh wait you said anyone with a brain... I guess we are in agreement...
Also I am not ducking you lol, I'm right here and willing to engage in a civil discussion. I tried win centaur but we saw him flip out and show he isn't capable, so I'm not wasting my time. But I know you are capable and would love to engage in a civil discussion about this issue.
I basically agree with most of your premise to begin with altho where we differ if you read my definiton is that it is not about individual beliefs per se and that it more of a relationship of factors.
Where I disagree is that partisan allegiance or politics dictates if someone is racist or not. When Obama was running for president I hear racist things from the GOP not wanting a black man to be president but also racist things from Hillary supporters not wanting a Blackman to be president. So in my experience of both sides expressing racist views, your choice to make it about partisan politics does not add up.
So try this one on for size. I had a party last weekend with my friends and I only invited white, Hispanic/southamerican and a half Asian friend. No black people. Does that make me racist?
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Also I am not ducking you lol, I'm right here and willing to engage in a civil discussion. I tried win centaur but we saw him flip out and show he isn't capable, so I'm not wasting my time. But I know you are capable and would love to engage in a civil discussion about this issue.
I basically agree with most of your premise to begin with altho where we differ if you read my definiton is that it is not about individual beliefs per se and that it more of a relationship of factors.
Where I disagree is that partisan allegiance or politics dictates if someone is racist or not. When Obama was running for president I hear racist things from the GOP not wanting a black man to be president but also racist things from Hillary supporters not wanting a Blackman to be president. So in my experience of both sides expressing racist views, your choice to make it about partisan politics does not add up.
So try this one on for size. I had a party last weekend with my friends and I only invited white, Hispanic/southamerican and a half Asian friend. No black people. Does that make me racist?
Still want to hear your response to my party racism scenario. But I wanted to give you another example for us to discuss.
A while back I told you about my friend that teaches Mexican, South American and Spanish speakers in public schools in their own language. My friend's standpoint was that it is not about teaching these students to speak their own language but that while you are teaching them English, you teach mathematics, science, history and other topics to ensure that they are having the cognitive and neurological development appropriate for their age so when their English ability catches up with them they are able to put it all together rather than being behind because of their language abilities stopping them from learning the concepts they were capable of when they were younger.
When I presented this a while back, you seemed to think that this was a good idea. But under your current definition, it sounds like my friend is a racist because he pities these Mexicans and Spanish speakers by seeing them as inferior and needing something extra because of the sympathy he has for them and their race/ethnicity and language.
Didn't seem like you thought that what my friend did was racist back them, maybe you see it as racist now, which is totally okay if you changed your views. I'm just as always asking questions to clarify and better understand your views
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Money,
Still want to hear your response to my party racism scenario. But I wanted to give you another example for us to discuss.
A while back I told you about my friend that teaches Mexican, South American and Spanish speakers in public schools in their own language. My friend's standpoint was that it is not about teaching these students to speak their own language but that while you are teaching them English, you teach mathematics, science, history and other topics to ensure that they are having the cognitive and neurological development appropriate for their age so when their English ability catches up with them they are able to put it all together rather than being behind because of their language abilities stopping them from learning the concepts they were capable of when they were younger.
When I presented this a while back, you seemed to think that this was a good idea. But under your current definition, it sounds like my friend is a racist because he pities these Mexicans and Spanish speakers by seeing them as inferior and needing something extra because of the sympathy he has for them and their race/ethnicity and language.
Didn't seem like you thought that what my friend did was racist back them, maybe you see it as racist now, which is totally okay if you changed your views. I'm just as always asking questions to clarify and better understand your views
Search, I would be interested to heart our opinion on the party I threw last weekend where I did not invite any block people. Does that make me a racist?
Or the fact that I invited some Hispanics and a half Asian, does that make me a white sympathizer?
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Search, I would be interested to heart our opinion on the party I threw last weekend where I did not invite any block people. Does that make me a racist?
Or the fact that I invited some Hispanics and a half Asian, does that make me a white sympathizer?
Cool, altho I would rather read an intelligent back forth over centaur all emotional unloading insults and flipping out on this thread about pygmies
Dude, can we just get past your hack posting strategy of accusing me (or others who offend you) of getting emotional, flipping out, etc. to try to get under their skin? It isn't going to work on me and the only people who agree with your assessment of our back and forth in this thread are the ones who already share your warped leftopathic views.
Stop being a transparent hack and maybe give your actual definition of "racism" (not vague Hillary style answers or house party demographics) so we can move forward in this thread.
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
Cool, altho I would rather read an intelligent back forth over centaur all emotional unloading insults and flipping out on this thread about pygmies
Dude, can we just get past your hack posting strategy of accusing me (or others who offend you) of getting emotional, flipping out, etc. to try to get under their skin? It isn't going to work on me and the only people who agree with your assessment of our back and forth in this thread are the ones who already share your warped leftopathic views.
Stop being a transparent hack and maybe give your actual definition of "racism" (not vague Hillary style answers or house party demographics) so we can move forward in this thread.
Search, I would be interested to heart our opinion on the party I threw last weekend where I did not invite any block people. Does that make me a racist?
Or the fact that I invited some Hispanics and a half Asian, does that make me a white sympathizer?
Hell no. Just depends on who you'd like to have at your party.Good guys regardless of race are more than welcome on my list. Black people typically feel uncomfortable where I live so I do my best to tell them it's just fine. These are super big guys from the gym that are in another sector but unfortunately the neigbors just don't see it that way. They know it (blacks).
Darker the skin = higher racist attitude.
Beaners can have a pinata party and nobody will flinch around here. They mow the lawns, rake the leaves, blow the patio, build the houses.......All the while - THEY are ones stealing and ripping off chit.
I dunno what's going on anymore.
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
Search, I would be interested to heart our opinion on the party I threw last weekend where I did not invite any block people. Does that make me a racist?
Or the fact that I invited some Hispanics and a half Asian, does that make me a white sympathizer?
Hell no. Just depends on who you'd like to have at your party.Good guys regardless of race are more than welcome on my list. Black people typically feel uncomfortable where I live so I do my best to tell them it's just fine. These are super big guys from the gym that are in another sector but unfortunately the neigbors just don't see it that way. They know it (blacks).
Darker the skin = higher racist attitude.
Beaners can have a pinata party and nobody will flinch around here. They mow the lawns, rake the leaves, blow the patio, build the houses.......All the while - THEY are ones stealing and ripping off chit.
I agree good people/guys are welcome on my list too. so to me if I make the personal choice to have a party with our black people it doesn't make me a racist, but just because I have minorities at my party doesn't make me a leftist white guilt liberal either...
Now try this on for size... Say I run a restaurant or business and do not serve black people, is that racism? Or like country clubs or gold courses that do not allow minorities is that racism?
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I agree good people/guys are welcome on my list too. so to me if I make the personal choice to have a party with our black people it doesn't make me a racist, but just because I have minorities at my party doesn't make me a leftist white guilt liberal either...
Now try this on for size... Say I run a restaurant or business and do not serve black people, is that racism? Or like country clubs or gold courses that do not allow minorities is that racism?
But soicity is built with in a click or contacts atmosphere
This is done because of familiarity with people whomever associates with them.
This isn't due to meanness at first but many grow up with a vs thee
Mindset. Whether it is neighborhoods or school varisiity teams. What college and within that what fraternity or sorority society that belongs.
Hence. Outsiders or differences are to reassimilate
And such races discriminate even have the xongretionalists and Baptist very conservative white Protestants have riff amonst them.
The idea of change. Fear and security illusions keep citizens from limiting contact andd associates and thus circles keep to them selves in what's familiar.
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It might be hard to comprehend.
But soicity is built with in a click or contacts atmosphere
This is done because of familiarity with people whomever associates with them.
This isn't due to meanness at first but many grow up with a vs thee
Mindset. Whether it is neighborhoods or school varisiity teams. What college and within that what fraternity or sorority society that belongs.
Hence. Outsiders or differences are to reassimilate
And such races discriminate even have the xongretionalists and Baptist very conservative white Protestants have riff amonst them.
The idea of change. Fear and security illusions keep citizens from limiting contact andd associates and thus circles keep to them selves in what's familiar.
Leaders over time have used this psychological tendency to gain power quickly. You are poor because they are rich and keep you poor. Others argue from labors stance they are Union they are scabs. This continued to place division with in the poor and thus hiring practices are made for with in the clicks themselves.
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Leaders over time have used this psychological tendency to gain power quickly. You are poor because they are rich and keep you poor. Others argue from labors stance they are Union they are scabs. This continued to place division with in the poor and thus hiring practices are made for with in the clicks themselves.
I'm a racist sob when it comes to the outrageous ghetto blacks. I'll admit that openly without any restraint. Mexicans too. Behavior in society is important. Show respect, be courteous, mindful and socially conscious.
That goes with any color.
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I'm a racist sob when it comes to the outrageous ghetto blacks. I'll admit that openly without any restraint. Mexicans too. Behavior in society is important. Show respect, be courteous, mindful and socially conscious.
Trump was taking about affirmative action. Trump was implying that if he
was a black business owner, he would be getting preferential treatment
based upon being black. The standards would be lower. The need to work
hard, be disciplined, and to build achievement wouldn’t be necessary if
Trump was black. It would mean Trump could study less and work less and
accountability goes straight out the window. He could simply be stupid
and lazy and be a huge success like a hip hop artist.
Trump
believes that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by
the same standards. You’re such a racist, scalabrine. When you give
preferential treatment to minorities in admission, hiring practices or
business, you're in effect saying “You're too stupid or incapable of
achieving on your own, so let me help you". It is racist, condescending,
and insulting to imply that minorities cannot achieve their goals
through hard work and ability.
It’s you that’s racist,
scalabrine. You believe minorities cannot achieve their goals through
hard work and ability. Trump believes that everyone should play by the
same rules and be judged by the same standards. Trump believes
minorities are equal. Why do you think minorities are incapable of
achieve their goals through hard work and ability? I know why. It’s
because you think minorities are lazy and stupid. Admit it scalabrine.
You’re racist towards minorities. Typical white supremacist.
When did I say blacks didn't have to work hard or deserve preferential treatment?
Now I've heard it all: I've been accused of being racist against whites AS A WHITE PERSON (lol), and now I'm accused of being racist against blacks well because, I don't believe they have to work hard (an accusation I've never made or even Insinuated on this site).
I'd debate you Money but you are incapable of even launching a truthful invective. And if you can't even do that, why would I waste my time? The posters here can't even get their stories straight!
DL, I've made entire threads about that definition and you've been in them.
Let me ask you something Money: why is it that blacks are 'too stupid' when they get alleged 'special treatment', but whites weren't 'too stupid' when they have gotten, literally hundreds of years of government mandated special treatment over minorities?
That 'treatment' was because whites were inferior or stupid?
Think about that and come back and tell me who the racist is here?
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
Trump was taking about affirmative action. Trump was implying that if he
was a black business owner, he would be getting preferential treatment
based upon being black. The standards would be lower. The need to work
hard, be disciplined, and to build achievement wouldn’t be necessary if
Trump was black. It would mean Trump could study less and work less and
accountability goes straight out the window. He could simply be stupid
and lazy and be a huge success like a hip hop artist.
Trump
believes that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by
the same standards. You’re such a racist, scalabrine. When you give
preferential treatment to minorities in admission, hiring practices or
business, you're in effect saying “You're too stupid or incapable of
achieving on your own, so let me help you". It is racist, condescending,
and insulting to imply that minorities cannot achieve their goals
through hard work and ability.
It’s you that’s racist,
scalabrine. You believe minorities cannot achieve their goals through
hard work and ability. Trump believes that everyone should play by the
same rules and be judged by the same standards. Trump believes
minorities are equal. Why do you think minorities are incapable of
achieve their goals through hard work and ability? I know why. It’s
because you think minorities are lazy and stupid. Admit it scalabrine.
You’re racist towards minorities. Typical white supremacist.
When did I say blacks didn't have to work hard or deserve preferential treatment?
Now I've heard it all: I've been accused of being racist against whites AS A WHITE PERSON (lol), and now I'm accused of being racist against blacks well because, I don't believe they have to work hard (an accusation I've never made or even Insinuated on this site).
I'd debate you Money but you are incapable of even launching a truthful invective. And if you can't even do that, why would I waste my time? The posters here can't even get their stories straight!
DL, I've made entire threads about that definition and you've been in them.
Let me ask you something Money: why is it that blacks are 'too stupid' when they get alleged 'special treatment', but whites weren't 'too stupid' when they have gotten, literally hundreds of years of government mandated special treatment over minorities?
That 'treatment' was because whites were inferior or stupid?
Think about that and come back and tell me who the racist is here?
When did I say blacks didn't have to work hard or deserve preferential treatment?
Now I've heard it all: I've been accused of being racist against whites AS A WHITE PERSON (lol), and now I'm accused of being racist against blacks well because, I don't believe they have to work hard (an accusation I've never made or even Insinuated on this site).
You're being obtuse Scal and you know it
Of course you don't verbally say those things, that would set off your white guilt self gratifying alarm even you couldn't ignore.
Instead you indirectly say it by relentlessly favoring their side, constantly excusing their behavior, and almost single handedly waging a propaganda campaign on Covers that blacks have never done anything to deserve criticism or aggressive actions by police. You may not see it that way, but logical people correctly interpret that to mean you believe blacks are helpless and deserve, even need, favoritism and coddling.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
When did I say blacks didn't have to work hard or deserve preferential treatment?
Now I've heard it all: I've been accused of being racist against whites AS A WHITE PERSON (lol), and now I'm accused of being racist against blacks well because, I don't believe they have to work hard (an accusation I've never made or even Insinuated on this site).
You're being obtuse Scal and you know it
Of course you don't verbally say those things, that would set off your white guilt self gratifying alarm even you couldn't ignore.
Instead you indirectly say it by relentlessly favoring their side, constantly excusing their behavior, and almost single handedly waging a propaganda campaign on Covers that blacks have never done anything to deserve criticism or aggressive actions by police. You may not see it that way, but logical people correctly interpret that to mean you believe blacks are helpless and deserve, even need, favoritism and coddling.
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