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    Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is A Second Mile Volunteer

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    Renton
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 8:41 PM ET #51

    Mr. Win = Sick Disturbed Fucko
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    Mr. Win = Sick Disturbed Fucko
     
    mattbrot
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 8:46 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Man, what is wrong with people.

    A 60 year old that has penetration with a ten year old little boy, or a 60+ year old making the 10 year old give him a blow job IS NOT the same kind of thing as not feeding your kids the right food.

    What is wrong with you?  Are you just looking for something to argue with?

    I am not even remotely saying that what Sandusky did was anything less than pure eveil.

    Does me saying that that the childhood obesity epidemic also has a terrible burden on children's lives mean that what Sandusky did is not bad?

    Why is it an either or thing? So if one is bad than the other can not also be bad? Come on man use your head a little here.  Do you really think that I am saying that raping a kid is not bad?

    Annoys me to even have to be typing this to defend my comment. 

    It is just that it is easy to not realize the impact that it will have future generations because it is a gradual process?

    Once again one being bad does not diminish the seriousness of the other.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Man, what is wrong with people.

    A 60 year old that has penetration with a ten year old little boy, or a 60+ year old making the 10 year old give him a blow job IS NOT the same kind of thing as not feeding your kids the right food.

    What is wrong with you?  Are you just looking for something to argue with?

    I am not even remotely saying that what Sandusky did was anything less than pure eveil.

    Does me saying that that the childhood obesity epidemic also has a terrible burden on children's lives mean that what Sandusky did is not bad?

    Why is it an either or thing? So if one is bad than the other can not also be bad? Come on man use your head a little here.  Do you really think that I am saying that raping a kid is not bad?

    Annoys me to even have to be typing this to defend my comment. 

    It is just that it is easy to not realize the impact that it will have future generations because it is a gradual process?

    Once again one being bad does not diminish the seriousness of the other.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #53

    What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

    Talking about obese kids... take it to a more appropriate thread.
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    What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

    Talking about obese kids... take it to a more appropriate thread.
     
    mattbrot
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 9:10 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton:

    What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

    Talking about obese kids... take it to a more appropriate thread.

    ok dude.  glad to see that you are able to see past your nose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton:

    What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

    Talking about obese kids... take it to a more appropriate thread.

    ok dude.  glad to see that you are able to see past your nose

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 10:28 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Weeble,

     your not saying we cant call sandusky a rapist are you? Because the court papers pretty much call him that.



    No. I was referring to when you speak of other posters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Weeble,

     your not saying we cant call sandusky a rapist are you? Because the court papers pretty much call him that.



    No. I was referring to when you speak of other posters.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 10:45 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    What is wrong with you?  Are you just looking for something to argue with?

    I am not even remotely saying that what Sandusky did was anything less than pure eveil.

    Does me saying that that the childhood obesity epidemic also has a terrible burden on children's lives mean that what Sandusky did is not bad?

    Why is it an either or thing? So if one is bad than the other can not also be bad? Come on man use your head a little here.  Do you really think that I am saying that raping a kid is not bad?

    Annoys me to even have to be typing this to defend my comment. 

    It is just that it is easy to not realize the impact that it will have future generations because it is a gradual process?

    Once again one being bad does not diminish the seriousness of the other.

     

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    What is wrong with you?  Are you just looking for something to argue with?

    I am not even remotely saying that what Sandusky did was anything less than pure eveil.

    Does me saying that that the childhood obesity epidemic also has a terrible burden on children's lives mean that what Sandusky did is not bad?

    Why is it an either or thing? So if one is bad than the other can not also be bad? Come on man use your head a little here.  Do you really think that I am saying that raping a kid is not bad?

    Annoys me to even have to be typing this to defend my comment. 

    It is just that it is easy to not realize the impact that it will have future generations because it is a gradual process?

    Once again one being bad does not diminish the seriousness of the other.

     

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 10:48 PM ET #57

    Wow, I'm adding mattbrot and Mr.Win to my official 'covers weirdos list'.
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    Wow, I'm adding mattbrot and Mr.Win to my official 'covers weirdos list'.
     
    mattbrot
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 11:46 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    Wow, I'm adding mattbrot and Mr.Win to my official 'covers weirdos list'.

    ok.  well I will add you to my list of people who can successfully twist around words and refuse to think critically..

    to think that my comments are even remotely stating that being a pedophile is not of utmost evil is insane.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    Wow, I'm adding mattbrot and Mr.Win to my official 'covers weirdos list'.

    ok.  well I will add you to my list of people who can successfully twist around words and refuse to think critically..

    to think that my comments are even remotely stating that being a pedophile is not of utmost evil is insane.   

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 11:51 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    ok.  well I will add you to my list of people who can successfully twist around words and refuse to think critically..

    to think that my comments are even remotely stating that being a pedophile is not of utmost evil is insane.   

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    ok.  well I will add you to my list of people who can successfully twist around words and refuse to think critically..

    to think that my comments are even remotely stating that being a pedophile is not of utmost evil is insane.   

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

     
    mattbrot
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 11:53 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

    I only mentioned childhood obesity because it was mentioned earlier in the thread. And like it or not it seemed to take over the thread to a certain extent (about half way through) and so I thought it was not so far out of bounds to comment on it.  I was not defending his stance or arguing his stance.  I was simply stating that I agree that childhood obesity is a serious issue and that it is also a scenario that can have long lasting effects on a childs future however, you do not hear it talked about very much. My post was more to point out that it is a serious issue that I think many people can and do overlook. 

    Now for all of you that want to twist my words and view it as saying that being a pedophile is ok.   well that is on you.  I am not sure what else i can say.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

    I only mentioned childhood obesity because it was mentioned earlier in the thread. And like it or not it seemed to take over the thread to a certain extent (about half way through) and so I thought it was not so far out of bounds to comment on it.  I was not defending his stance or arguing his stance.  I was simply stating that I agree that childhood obesity is a serious issue and that it is also a scenario that can have long lasting effects on a childs future however, you do not hear it talked about very much. My post was more to point out that it is a serious issue that I think many people can and do overlook. 

    Now for all of you that want to twist my words and view it as saying that being a pedophile is ok.   well that is on you.  I am not sure what else i can say.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 11:54 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

    see my post above.  relax a bit man.  try to think outside the box a bit.  i was just going with the flow of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are you even talking about child obesity?

    It looked to me as if you were trying to minimize the actions of a creep. .

    see my post above.  relax a bit man.  try to think outside the box a bit.  i was just going with the flow of the thread.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2011 - 11:59 PM ET #62

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    I just don't understand how child obesity can be mentioned as the same kind of thing as sexual abuse on a child.

    That makes zero sense to me and i think that the people that say it are going to minimize child abuse .... however, i see how that was not your intention.  

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    I just don't understand how child obesity can be mentioned as the same kind of thing as sexual abuse on a child.

    That makes zero sense to me and i think that the people that say it are going to minimize child abuse .... however, i see how that was not your intention.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 1:28 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    No. I was referring to when you speak of other posters.

     

    I was almost 100 percent sure that is what you meant, but i just wanted to check with you before i called him a monster again

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:



    No. I was referring to when you speak of other posters.

     

    I was almost 100 percent sure that is what you meant, but i just wanted to check with you before i called him a monster again

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 1:45 AM ET #65

    as far as the guys here who have said parents feeding their kids sugar is on par with what sandusky has done, need some help.

    You also might want to start putting some of that blame on the friggin dirtbag companies who are making all this crap and selling it to us knowing its very bad for you. I would guess the majority of people in our country really dont know what foods are bad for you and just think, hey if a company is selling it to the public it must be okay to eat.

    It would be great if all we could buy was healthy food, because thats all companies were allowed to sell, but thats not gonna happen. Look how bad alcohol and cigs are, yet both are still legally sold everyday, yet the govt and companies know that both are very bad for all of us.  Wonder why that is? couldnt have anything to do with  and the drug companies getting to make all the nasty drugs to heal us from all the bad things we put into our bodies?

     

    And i would bet my left nut, the guys comparing sugar to sandusky, ate tons of sugary things growing up themselves.

    So to mattbrot, i say who is really at fault, the parents or the dirtbag companies who keep making and selling us the bad shit. You sure as hell dont see the giant companies who make95 percent of the foods we all eat everyday, saying hey, from now on all were going to sell is good healthy foods and nothing bad is going to come out of our plants anymore.

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    as far as the guys here who have said parents feeding their kids sugar is on par with what sandusky has done, need some help.

    You also might want to start putting some of that blame on the friggin dirtbag companies who are making all this crap and selling it to us knowing its very bad for you. I would guess the majority of people in our country really dont know what foods are bad for you and just think, hey if a company is selling it to the public it must be okay to eat.

    It would be great if all we could buy was healthy food, because thats all companies were allowed to sell, but thats not gonna happen. Look how bad alcohol and cigs are, yet both are still legally sold everyday, yet the govt and companies know that both are very bad for all of us.  Wonder why that is? couldnt have anything to do with  and the drug companies getting to make all the nasty drugs to heal us from all the bad things we put into our bodies?

     

    And i would bet my left nut, the guys comparing sugar to sandusky, ate tons of sugary things growing up themselves.

    So to mattbrot, i say who is really at fault, the parents or the dirtbag companies who keep making and selling us the bad shit. You sure as hell dont see the giant companies who make95 percent of the foods we all eat everyday, saying hey, from now on all were going to sell is good healthy foods and nothing bad is going to come out of our plants anymore.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 1:45 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    see my post above.  relax a bit man.  try to think outside the box a bit.  i was just going with the flow of the thread.


    I appreciate your input Matt. Being able to think outside the panic and make critical decisions are part of the normal growth process. Most of the poorly educated, reactionary, immature and probably substance addicted people on here try to treat this as more of a school playground. Having an actual, well thought out debate isn't an option. Attempting to dominate your opponent with foul language, peer pressure and personal attacks is the option they have due to their poor upbringing and lack of serious education. It is almost akin to the 4-chan sites out there.

    These people do not understand there are many things out there that effect the well being of growing children. There are many legal and ethical based areas of a child abuse investigation. Like the layers of an onion there are also many different steps to treating the victims of CSA. Having worked the dependents of military personal for many years I have seen it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    see my post above.  relax a bit man.  try to think outside the box a bit.  i was just going with the flow of the thread.


    I appreciate your input Matt. Being able to think outside the panic and make critical decisions are part of the normal growth process. Most of the poorly educated, reactionary, immature and probably substance addicted people on here try to treat this as more of a school playground. Having an actual, well thought out debate isn't an option. Attempting to dominate your opponent with foul language, peer pressure and personal attacks is the option they have due to their poor upbringing and lack of serious education. It is almost akin to the 4-chan sites out there.

    These people do not understand there are many things out there that effect the well being of growing children. There are many legal and ethical based areas of a child abuse investigation. Like the layers of an onion there are also many different steps to treating the victims of CSA. Having worked the dependents of military personal for many years I have seen it all.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 1:49 AM ET #67

    ^^with^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    as far as the guys here who have said parents feeding their kids sugar is on par with what sandusky has done, need some help.

    You also might want to start putting some of that blame on the friggin dirtbag companies who are making all this crap and selling it to us knowing its very bad for you. I would guess the majority of people in our country really dont know what foods are bad for you and just think, hey if a company is selling it to the public it must be okay to eat.

    It would be great if all we could buy was healthy food, because thats all companies were allowed to sell, but thats not gonna happen. Look how bad alcohol and cigs are, yet both are still legally sold everyday, yet the govt and companies know that both are very bad for all of us.  Wonder why that is? couldnt have anything to do with  and the drug companies getting to make all the nasty drugs to heal us from all the bad things we put into our bodies?

     

    And i would bet my left nut, the guys comparing sugar to sandusky, ate tons of sugary things growing up themselves.

    So to mattbrot, i say who is really at fault, the parents or the dirtbag companies who keep making and selling us the bad shit. You sure as hell dont see the giant companies who make95 percent of the foods we all eat everyday, saying hey, from now on all were going to sell is good healthy foods and nothing bad is going to come out of our plants anymore.



    Once again I am not trying to compare the two. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand.  Because I say one is a real issue does not diminish the seriousness of the other. 

    CD329 -- This is the last I am going  to say about this in here because it is not really related to the original topic and I do not want people to misinterpret my intent anymore.

    You are definitely correct in that the obesity epidemic has numerous layers and plenty of blame to go around. I do not even want to debate who is more at fault because I do not know and it is more of a philosophical debate.

    The reason I raised the issue (or should say contributed to the ongoing debate) is because it was raised earlier in the thread as an issue and I was just confirming that it is in fact a real public health issue that is having real effects.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    as far as the guys here who have said parents feeding their kids sugar is on par with what sandusky has done, need some help.

    You also might want to start putting some of that blame on the friggin dirtbag companies who are making all this crap and selling it to us knowing its very bad for you. I would guess the majority of people in our country really dont know what foods are bad for you and just think, hey if a company is selling it to the public it must be okay to eat.

    It would be great if all we could buy was healthy food, because thats all companies were allowed to sell, but thats not gonna happen. Look how bad alcohol and cigs are, yet both are still legally sold everyday, yet the govt and companies know that both are very bad for all of us.  Wonder why that is? couldnt have anything to do with  and the drug companies getting to make all the nasty drugs to heal us from all the bad things we put into our bodies?

     

    And i would bet my left nut, the guys comparing sugar to sandusky, ate tons of sugary things growing up themselves.

    So to mattbrot, i say who is really at fault, the parents or the dirtbag companies who keep making and selling us the bad shit. You sure as hell dont see the giant companies who make95 percent of the foods we all eat everyday, saying hey, from now on all were going to sell is good healthy foods and nothing bad is going to come out of our plants anymore.



    Once again I am not trying to compare the two. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand.  Because I say one is a real issue does not diminish the seriousness of the other. 

    CD329 -- This is the last I am going  to say about this in here because it is not really related to the original topic and I do not want people to misinterpret my intent anymore.

    You are definitely correct in that the obesity epidemic has numerous layers and plenty of blame to go around. I do not even want to debate who is more at fault because I do not know and it is more of a philosophical debate.

    The reason I raised the issue (or should say contributed to the ongoing debate) is because it was raised earlier in the thread as an issue and I was just confirming that it is in fact a real public health issue that is having real effects.  
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