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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 12:41 PM ET #1

    Did you know that when you bet on a game it changes the outcome?  This is how it works.... say you bet $50 on a game, the players on the court are influenced by your wager and actually play differently.  Doesnt mean you will lose necessarily but it does CHANGE the outcome.  

    I have placed thousands of bets.  Take the Super Bowl for example.  The first play of the game was a safety (which happened a few yrs back in another super bowl).  This is a direct result of nervousness and money wagered on the game and fans expectations for the broncos to win or score a lot of points without a lot of mistakes from manning. 43-8 seahawks?  really?

    So if you want to beat sports betting you have to understand how the outcomes are determined.  This is also why the public usually loses on those smart money plays.  It's NOT RIGGED.  



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    Did you know that when you bet on a game it changes the outcome?  This is how it works.... say you bet $50 on a game, the players on the court are influenced by your wager and actually play differently.  Doesnt mean you will lose necessarily but it does CHANGE the outcome.  

    I have placed thousands of bets.  Take the Super Bowl for example.  The first play of the game was a safety (which happened a few yrs back in another super bowl).  This is a direct result of nervousness and money wagered on the game and fans expectations for the broncos to win or score a lot of points without a lot of mistakes from manning. 43-8 seahawks?  really?

    So if you want to beat sports betting you have to understand how the outcomes are determined.  This is also why the public usually loses on those smart money plays.  It's NOT RIGGED.  



     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 12:48 PM ET #2

    Bloody Mary's this morning?

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    Bloody Mary's this morning?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 12:55 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Bloody Mary's this morning?


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    Bloody Mary's this morning?


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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 2:16 PM ET #4

    Kill yourself 
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 2:38 PM ET #6

    I am convinced sometimes when I lay a bet on a team I single handedly held that team to their lowest scoring output or percentage in the team's history. It's very uncanny. Also for fantasy football if I draft you look out, your season will very likely be over due to any injury. I have that much power.
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    I am convinced sometimes when I lay a bet on a team I single handedly held that team to their lowest scoring output or percentage in the team's history. It's very uncanny. Also for fantasy football if I draft you look out, your season will very likely be over due to any injury. I have that much power.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 7:38 PM ET #7

    When you're stressed out and pinched it's hard to analyze a matchup.

    Over analysis paralysis.

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    When you're stressed out and pinched it's hard to analyze a matchup.

    Over analysis paralysis.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2014 - 7:46 PM ET #8

    I bet Weber State last night as an 11 point home favorite and they lost on purpose to spite me.   
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    I bet Weber State last night as an 11 point home favorite and they lost on purpose to spite me.   
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 9:39 AM ET #9



    This should get good.

    Players allowed the safety cause they were nervous of bettors losing/winning. No chance they were nervous playing the biggest game of their lives with a billion people watching?? LOL
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    This should get good.

    Players allowed the safety cause they were nervous of bettors losing/winning. No chance they were nervous playing the biggest game of their lives with a billion people watching?? LOL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 10:16 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    I bet Weber State last night as an 11 point home favorite and they lost on purpose to spite me.   


    I feel ya brother, I feel ya...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    I bet Weber State last night as an 11 point home favorite and they lost on purpose to spite me.   


    I feel ya brother, I feel ya...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 12:32 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by schreib:

      the players on the court are influenced by your wager and actually play differently.   This is also why the public usually loses on those smart money plays.  It's NOT RIGGED.  



    The game is rigged if gamblers actually influence players .  More probable for gamblers to be irrelevant to future outcomes.  Delusion of magic power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schreib:

      the players on the court are influenced by your wager and actually play differently.   This is also why the public usually loses on those smart money plays.  It's NOT RIGGED.  



    The game is rigged if gamblers actually influence players .  More probable for gamblers to be irrelevant to future outcomes.  Delusion of magic power?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 12:35 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    The game is rigged if gamblers actually influence players .  More probable for gamblers to be irrelevant to future outcomes.  Delusion of magic power?


    really i dont care at all im just trying to help
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    The game is rigged if gamblers actually influence players .  More probable for gamblers to be irrelevant to future outcomes.  Delusion of magic power?


    really i dont care at all im just trying to help
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 12:53 PM ET #13

    Lay off the Caffeine.
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 1:30 PM ET #14

    The first play of the game was a safety (which happened a few yrs back in another super bowl).  This is a direct result of nervousness and money wagered on the game and fans expectations for the broncos to win or score a lot of points without a lot of mistakes from manning. 43-8 seahawks? 
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    Call me weird, but I blamed the safety on crowd noise and a communication break down.  Didn't realize it was because someone placed a bet on Denver.    
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    The first play of the game was a safety (which happened a few yrs back in another super bowl).  This is a direct result of nervousness and money wagered on the game and fans expectations for the broncos to win or score a lot of points without a lot of mistakes from manning. 43-8 seahawks? 
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    Call me weird, but I blamed the safety on crowd noise and a communication break down.  Didn't realize it was because someone placed a bet on Denver.    
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2014 - 3:04 PM ET #15

    What has happened to Covers.com?
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2014 - 10:07 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by jennifer666:

    Lay off the Caffeine.

    amen

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    Lay off the Caffeine.

    amen

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2014 - 10:14 AM ET #17

    Yes it does, if a butterfly flaps its wings in South America at the right spot and time it can set up a Tornado in Texas. 
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    Yes it does, if a butterfly flaps its wings in South America at the right spot and time it can set up a Tornado in Texas. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbox:

    Yes it does, if a butterfly flaps its wings in South America at the right spot and time it can set up a Tornado in Texas. 


    it's like matrix jedi-mind trick stuff
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    Yes it does, if a butterfly flaps its wings in South America at the right spot and time it can set up a Tornado in Texas. 


    it's like matrix jedi-mind trick stuff
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2014 - 10:23 AM ET #19

    Yep, and with just a single thought you yourself have already changed not just the outcome of a game, but the entire course of the universe.  
    Morgan Freeman explained it best in one episode of Through the Wormhole.
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    Yep, and with just a single thought you yourself have already changed not just the outcome of a game, but the entire course of the universe.  
    Morgan Freeman explained it best in one episode of Through the Wormhole.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2014 - 10:32 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbox:

    Yep, and with just a single thought you yourself have already changed not just the outcome of a game, but the entire course of the universe.  
    Morgan Freeman explained it best in one episode of Through the Wormhole.


    you'd be surprised how powerful money is... I bet $2 a game now i used to bet huge and i have learned it the hard hard way
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbox:

    Yep, and with just a single thought you yourself have already changed not just the outcome of a game, but the entire course of the universe.  
    Morgan Freeman explained it best in one episode of Through the Wormhole.


    you'd be surprised how powerful money is... I bet $2 a game now i used to bet huge and i have learned it the hard hard way
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2014 - 10:38 AM ET #21

    Sometimes it's not about the amount being wagered. I get just as excited betting 1-2k a game as I do when I side bet 5 bucks at the bar with a buddy. Perhaps your perception of the game changes when you have something on the line.
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    Sometimes it's not about the amount being wagered. I get just as excited betting 1-2k a game as I do when I side bet 5 bucks at the bar with a buddy. Perhaps your perception of the game changes when you have something on the line.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2014 - 12:22 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbox:

    Sometimes it's not about the amount being wagered. I get just as excited betting 1-2k a game as I do when I side bet 5 bucks at the bar with a buddy. Perhaps your perception of the game changes when you have something on the line.


    i agree its embarassing to me that I can only bet $2 a game tho; used to bet all in every freakin play now i have to build a bankroll and return to those limits
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbox:

    Sometimes it's not about the amount being wagered. I get just as excited betting 1-2k a game as I do when I side bet 5 bucks at the bar with a buddy. Perhaps your perception of the game changes when you have something on the line.


    i agree its embarassing to me that I can only bet $2 a game tho; used to bet all in every freakin play now i have to build a bankroll and return to those limits
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2014 - 10:12 AM ET #23

    Can you hook me up with your meth dealer? cause you must be getting good garbage to think this is sound logic that you're chriping about
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    Can you hook me up with your meth dealer? cause you must be getting good garbage to think this is sound logic that you're chriping about
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2014 - 11:39 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by timbaland99:

    Can you hook me up with your meth dealer? cause you must be getting good garbage to think this is sound logic that you're chriping about


    sure his name is Tony he runs 5dimes
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    Can you hook me up with your meth dealer? cause you must be getting good garbage to think this is sound logic that you're chriping about


    sure his name is Tony he runs 5dimes
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2014 - 6:14 PM ET #25

    O.P. may mean well or may be leveling us all, doesn't matter. What does matter is YOUR logic handicapping a game and THE TEAM'S logic when thinking "we got this" and then they get buried or fail to cover an easy line. 

    Vegas knows which side players will logically gravitate to before anything is ever posted. Vegas will also "steer" the wagering to maximize their profit with the above conclusion. The bettor will often fall victim to teams looking past the present opponent, revenge factors, multiple games in a row, coaches tendencies, referee tendencies and a million other variables. 

    The trick to successful wagering is to look critically at the chalk and ask yourself "how will they perform in this spot?" How many times after a game is over do you say to yourself, "that outcome was rigged?" I'd venture to say your conclusion 90% of the time you lose is "well, I don't like it, but that makes sense." Especially when your chalk fails to cover by a point or two, they sit on the ball the last 25 seconds of the game or play ole" defense. 

     
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    O.P. may mean well or may be leveling us all, doesn't matter. What does matter is YOUR logic handicapping a game and THE TEAM'S logic when thinking "we got this" and then they get buried or fail to cover an easy line. 

    Vegas knows which side players will logically gravitate to before anything is ever posted. Vegas will also "steer" the wagering to maximize their profit with the above conclusion. The bettor will often fall victim to teams looking past the present opponent, revenge factors, multiple games in a row, coaches tendencies, referee tendencies and a million other variables. 

    The trick to successful wagering is to look critically at the chalk and ask yourself "how will they perform in this spot?" How many times after a game is over do you say to yourself, "that outcome was rigged?" I'd venture to say your conclusion 90% of the time you lose is "well, I don't like it, but that makes sense." Especially when your chalk fails to cover by a point or two, they sit on the ball the last 25 seconds of the game or play ole" defense. 

     
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