Thank ya buddy, now i'm a little more educated on the matter.Let me ask you, do you think that her age and region where it was spilled made it a little more damaging?Do you think that all the other similar hot coffee,tea, coco etc spill suits that have been dismissed were wrong,remember similar now.Look i'm no shill for big money or ins. companies. I do think they should have been more clear with warning about how hot the coffee is, though it probably will not stop us from spilling coffee on ourselfes.Personally i like my coffee hot , that way it last longer.
mcds was heating the coffee to 180 degrees and they had already settled numerous cases of ppl being burned. a quick google search says 140 degree water will cause 3rd degree burns after a few seconds.
im a big tort reform guy, but this lady absolutely deserved to win. and so does anyone else who suffered the same trauma she did from something that should be pretty mundane. i mean she needed to get skin grafts, its not like she just got a blister.
the jury probably awarded her more bc shes a sympathetic victim, and if you have a problem with that here, you must absolutely hate john edwards with every fiber of your body, but also bc mcds told her to go pound sand.
looking at the wikipedia page, it says the judge reduced the verdict to 600k. id hardly call that excessive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Thank ya buddy, now i'm a little more educated on the matter.Let me ask you, do you think that her age and region where it was spilled made it a little more damaging?Do you think that all the other similar hot coffee,tea, coco etc spill suits that have been dismissed were wrong,remember similar now.Look i'm no shill for big money or ins. companies. I do think they should have been more clear with warning about how hot the coffee is, though it probably will not stop us from spilling coffee on ourselfes.Personally i like my coffee hot , that way it last longer.
mcds was heating the coffee to 180 degrees and they had already settled numerous cases of ppl being burned. a quick google search says 140 degree water will cause 3rd degree burns after a few seconds.
im a big tort reform guy, but this lady absolutely deserved to win. and so does anyone else who suffered the same trauma she did from something that should be pretty mundane. i mean she needed to get skin grafts, its not like she just got a blister.
the jury probably awarded her more bc shes a sympathetic victim, and if you have a problem with that here, you must absolutely hate john edwards with every fiber of your body, but also bc mcds told her to go pound sand.
looking at the wikipedia page, it says the judge reduced the verdict to 600k. id hardly call that excessive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants
mcds was heating the coffee to 180 degrees and they had already settled numerous cases of ppl being burned. a quick google search says 140 degree water will cause 3rd degree burns after a few seconds.
im a big tort reform guy, but this lady absolutely deserved to win. and so does anyone else who suffered the same trauma she did from something that should be pretty mundane. i mean she needed to get skin grafts, its not like she just got a blister.
the jury probably awarded her more bc shes a sympathetic victim, and if you have a problem with that here, you must absolutely hate john edwards with every fiber of your body, but also bc mcds told her to go pound sand.
Right,but in same article it quotes National Coffee Association of USA that coffee is best brewed at 195-205. And should be maintained 180-185.Anyway i agree Mac should have paid her medical and been done with it.One last question though, lets say Macs could prove she regularly bought coffee there.Would that make a difference, that would mean she had to know how hot it was.
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Quote Originally Posted by steveshane67:
mcds was heating the coffee to 180 degrees and they had already settled numerous cases of ppl being burned. a quick google search says 140 degree water will cause 3rd degree burns after a few seconds.
im a big tort reform guy, but this lady absolutely deserved to win. and so does anyone else who suffered the same trauma she did from something that should be pretty mundane. i mean she needed to get skin grafts, its not like she just got a blister.
the jury probably awarded her more bc shes a sympathetic victim, and if you have a problem with that here, you must absolutely hate john edwards with every fiber of your body, but also bc mcds told her to go pound sand.
Right,but in same article it quotes National Coffee Association of USA that coffee is best brewed at 195-205. And should be maintained 180-185.Anyway i agree Mac should have paid her medical and been done with it.One last question though, lets say Macs could prove she regularly bought coffee there.Would that make a difference, that would mean she had to know how hot it was.
Right,but in same article it quotes National Coffee Association of USA that coffee is best brewed at 195-205. And should be maintained 180-185.Anyway i agree Mac should have paid her medical and been done with it.One last question though, lets say Macs could prove she regularly bought coffee there.Would that make a difference, that would mean she had to know how hot it was.
thats actually a good point, one ive never heard before
i will say unless the women had knowledge of 1) the actual temp of the coffee and 2) the temp and duration at which burns are caused, that she would still have a case. i think theres a difference between knowing a non boiling liquid is hot and knowing that its hot enough to cause you to get burned so badly you need skin grafts.
as i said before, i do think we are too sue happy. my window screens have a warning on them saying they wont hold your baby from falling out of the window. which means someone actually thought they would and a baby fell out a window and they sued, or they put the warnings on their bc they were afraid someone would be so stupid to think it would hold a baby and sue.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Right,but in same article it quotes National Coffee Association of USA that coffee is best brewed at 195-205. And should be maintained 180-185.Anyway i agree Mac should have paid her medical and been done with it.One last question though, lets say Macs could prove she regularly bought coffee there.Would that make a difference, that would mean she had to know how hot it was.
thats actually a good point, one ive never heard before
i will say unless the women had knowledge of 1) the actual temp of the coffee and 2) the temp and duration at which burns are caused, that she would still have a case. i think theres a difference between knowing a non boiling liquid is hot and knowing that its hot enough to cause you to get burned so badly you need skin grafts.
as i said before, i do think we are too sue happy. my window screens have a warning on them saying they wont hold your baby from falling out of the window. which means someone actually thought they would and a baby fell out a window and they sued, or they put the warnings on their bc they were afraid someone would be so stupid to think it would hold a baby and sue.
I use to go to Chuck-E-Cheese'e Gay cousins joint, it was called "Showbiz Pizza Place" That had a lot of off the wall games like Leprechaun, Krull, and Arabian...
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I use to go to Chuck-E-Cheese'e Gay cousins joint, it was called "Showbiz Pizza Place" That had a lot of off the wall games like Leprechaun, Krull, and Arabian...
Where the fuck did she come up with $the $5 million figure?
Something needs to be done about these fucking frivolous lawsuits. If they made it mandatory that these scumbag claimants must put up $10,000 to file a lawsuit like this then that would cut the number drastically. 90% of the time it's scumbags without a penny to their name or any prospects trying to make an easy buck off the back of someone else.
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Where the fuck did she come up with $the $5 million figure?
Something needs to be done about these fucking frivolous lawsuits. If they made it mandatory that these scumbag claimants must put up $10,000 to file a lawsuit like this then that would cut the number drastically. 90% of the time it's scumbags without a penny to their name or any prospects trying to make an easy buck off the back of someone else.
This year’s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a new 32-foot Winnebago motor home and on her first trip home from an Oklahoma U football game, she drove onto the freeway, set the cruise control at 70 mph. Then she calmly left the driver’s seat to go back to the Winnebago’s kitchen to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually leave the driver’s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her–are you sitting down–$1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their owner’s manuals as a result of this suit.
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My personal favorite.
This year’s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a new 32-foot Winnebago motor home and on her first trip home from an Oklahoma U football game, she drove onto the freeway, set the cruise control at 70 mph. Then she calmly left the driver’s seat to go back to the Winnebago’s kitchen to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually leave the driver’s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her–are you sitting down–$1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their owner’s manuals as a result of this suit.
This year’s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a new 32-foot Winnebago motor home and on her first trip home from an Oklahoma U football game, she drove onto the freeway, set the cruise control at 70 mph. Then she calmly left the driver’s seat to go back to the Winnebago’s kitchen to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually leave the driver’s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her–are you sitting down–$1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their owner’s manuals as a result of this suit.
Unreal....
I suppose this is a direct result of smart people figuring out ways to get out of jury duty only to leave the vacant spaces to the feeble minded..
Grazinski.. That is polish right..? Can't wait to lay this one on the wife...
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Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:
My personal favorite.
This year’s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a new 32-foot Winnebago motor home and on her first trip home from an Oklahoma U football game, she drove onto the freeway, set the cruise control at 70 mph. Then she calmly left the driver’s seat to go back to the Winnebago’s kitchen to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually leave the driver’s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her–are you sitting down–$1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their owner’s manuals as a result of this suit.
Unreal....
I suppose this is a direct result of smart people figuring out ways to get out of jury duty only to leave the vacant spaces to the feeble minded..
Grazinski.. That is polish right..? Can't wait to lay this one on the wife...
I remember hearing a story about a guy trying to steal someone's hubcaps and he didn't know someone was in the car and the driver ran over his hand and the hubcap stealing thief sued the driver and was awarded 80K....
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I remember hearing a story about a guy trying to steal someone's hubcaps and he didn't know someone was in the car and the driver ran over his hand and the hubcap stealing thief sued the driver and was awarded 80K....
A few years later and a little older I was ADDICTED to NBA Jam. That arcade game was awesome (in its day). Kept stats and records for certain things. Probably dropped several hundred bucks in that year or so. "Hes on fire!!"
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Quote Originally Posted by Amp:
Don't forget about X-men and the Simpsons games
A few years later and a little older I was ADDICTED to NBA Jam. That arcade game was awesome (in its day). Kept stats and records for certain things. Probably dropped several hundred bucks in that year or so. "Hes on fire!!"
A few years later and a little older I was ADDICTED to NBA Jam. That arcade game was awesome (in its day). Kept stats and records for certain things. Probably dropped several hundred bucks in that year or so. "Hes on fire!!"
I def dropped a few hundo at the arcades on NBA jam. Top 10 video games of all time.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
A few years later and a little older I was ADDICTED to NBA Jam. That arcade game was awesome (in its day). Kept stats and records for certain things. Probably dropped several hundred bucks in that year or so. "Hes on fire!!"
I def dropped a few hundo at the arcades on NBA jam. Top 10 video games of all time.
I see now there are a few places that offer nickel arcades... you would think that inflation would turn things the other way but with the quality of gaming systems now and online play, the arcades have actually lowered prices...
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I see now there are a few places that offer nickel arcades... you would think that inflation would turn things the other way but with the quality of gaming systems now and online play, the arcades have actually lowered prices...
what do you think specifically about the 5million dollar chuck-e-cheese lawsuit?
i followed the link in the article to another site that was supposed to detail the lawsuit, but it was pretty generic. i would have to think that if her kids are now compulsive gamblers and the only 'gambling' theyve done before was at chuck e cheese and the mother was unaware of the 'gambling' games and chuck e cheese actually offers games of luck and not skill, thats the only way, however small, she would have a case. but i dont think someone just goes from 0->compulsive gambler overnight, which would mean the mother ignored signs and continued to take her kids to this place that she thinks is evil.
i would bet (pun intended) the mother is mad bc her kids want to go there to win more tickets so they can spend $50 on games to win a $10 toy. and she just assumes (or her lawyer is telling her) that since you can win tickets, its gambling, even though everyone would agree games like skee ball is a game of skill.
earlier, someone mentioned a roulette type wheel with a light, if i remember correctly, at least the game im thinking of, is definitely a game of skill bc you choose when to stop the light and the light makes another revolution just for show, kinda the same way a slot machine is determined when you push the button but continues for show.
the us doesnt need to go as far as having a loser pays system (if you file a lawsuit and lose you pay the other sides legal fees), but there has to be a higher hurdle to clear, maybe something like you need to pay 1% of what you are suing for in filing fees. but you have to remember the politics of it. most politicians are lawyers, and the trial lawyers assn is a HUGE donor to democrats
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
steveshane,
what do you think specifically about the 5million dollar chuck-e-cheese lawsuit?
i followed the link in the article to another site that was supposed to detail the lawsuit, but it was pretty generic. i would have to think that if her kids are now compulsive gamblers and the only 'gambling' theyve done before was at chuck e cheese and the mother was unaware of the 'gambling' games and chuck e cheese actually offers games of luck and not skill, thats the only way, however small, she would have a case. but i dont think someone just goes from 0->compulsive gambler overnight, which would mean the mother ignored signs and continued to take her kids to this place that she thinks is evil.
i would bet (pun intended) the mother is mad bc her kids want to go there to win more tickets so they can spend $50 on games to win a $10 toy. and she just assumes (or her lawyer is telling her) that since you can win tickets, its gambling, even though everyone would agree games like skee ball is a game of skill.
earlier, someone mentioned a roulette type wheel with a light, if i remember correctly, at least the game im thinking of, is definitely a game of skill bc you choose when to stop the light and the light makes another revolution just for show, kinda the same way a slot machine is determined when you push the button but continues for show.
the us doesnt need to go as far as having a loser pays system (if you file a lawsuit and lose you pay the other sides legal fees), but there has to be a higher hurdle to clear, maybe something like you need to pay 1% of what you are suing for in filing fees. but you have to remember the politics of it. most politicians are lawyers, and the trial lawyers assn is a HUGE donor to democrats
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