New Penn St Rumor
If he makes it to jail, he'll probably be a trophy kill for someone. Just like that priest a few years ago
If he makes it to jail, he'll probably be a trophy kill for someone. Just like that priest a few years ago
BS...you guys watch too much TV
BS...you guys watch too much TV
I have sort of a long-winded theory about Paterno, sort of along the lines of what Badlands was alluding to. I put it in an email to a couple of my CFB pals earlier today (read if interested):
Like a lot of people, I suspect, I’ve been trying to reconcile the Paterno I’ve seen over the course of my life with the astounding allegations of the past week. I think I may finally have figured it out…
Joe was raised a poor Italian kid in Brooklyn, at a time when there were a lot of colorful, and connected, characters running around. Perhaps it’s no coincidence then that his reaction to the Sandusky matter was much more Vito Corleone than Bear Bryant. First, “we handle this ourselves. No outsiders.” In this case, that meant allegations of child rape were addressed not by the PSU or State College Police, the Centre County Sheriff or even the PA State Boys. Nope, they were “taken care of” in-house. Second, Joe probably thought he had imposed the ultimate penalty on Sandusky: “today, I turn my back on you; you’re out of the family business.” In the Nittany Family, there was no greater sanction. Having taken that step Don Joe probably thought he had done all he could do.
But, dark glasses and Italian surname aside, Joe wasn’t actually a Don. He couldn’t just have Jerry whacked in the Pine Barrens. So, having made this despicable bargain [“you will retire quietly; and this will be the last we speak of this”], Coach Paterno was now in a bit of a spot. When Sandusky came poking around looking for access to the PSU name and its facilities, Joe was hard-pressed to tell him no. Sure, he could turn Sandusky in, but how could he possibly explain the previous deal he had made previously? Sandusky (obviously a very sick man) then continued to leverage his PSU connection to prey on little boys for another decade or so. In the end, Don JoPa turned out to be just a football coach.
When I first saw the news of the Board’s decision last night, I assumed they were sticking it to Joe – paying him back for not leaving when they told him to five years ago – and that their refusal to allow him a final home game was needlessly mean-spirited. The more I learn, though, it seems like they might actually have been trying to do him a favor. This is only going to get worse for him.
Excellent points.
I believe PSU was doing Joe P a favor as well now that you mention it.
I have sort of a long-winded theory about Paterno, sort of along the lines of what Badlands was alluding to. I put it in an email to a couple of my CFB pals earlier today (read if interested):
Like a lot of people, I suspect, I’ve been trying to reconcile the Paterno I’ve seen over the course of my life with the astounding allegations of the past week. I think I may finally have figured it out…
Joe was raised a poor Italian kid in Brooklyn, at a time when there were a lot of colorful, and connected, characters running around. Perhaps it’s no coincidence then that his reaction to the Sandusky matter was much more Vito Corleone than Bear Bryant. First, “we handle this ourselves. No outsiders.” In this case, that meant allegations of child rape were addressed not by the PSU or State College Police, the Centre County Sheriff or even the PA State Boys. Nope, they were “taken care of” in-house. Second, Joe probably thought he had imposed the ultimate penalty on Sandusky: “today, I turn my back on you; you’re out of the family business.” In the Nittany Family, there was no greater sanction. Having taken that step Don Joe probably thought he had done all he could do.
But, dark glasses and Italian surname aside, Joe wasn’t actually a Don. He couldn’t just have Jerry whacked in the Pine Barrens. So, having made this despicable bargain [“you will retire quietly; and this will be the last we speak of this”], Coach Paterno was now in a bit of a spot. When Sandusky came poking around looking for access to the PSU name and its facilities, Joe was hard-pressed to tell him no. Sure, he could turn Sandusky in, but how could he possibly explain the previous deal he had made previously? Sandusky (obviously a very sick man) then continued to leverage his PSU connection to prey on little boys for another decade or so. In the end, Don JoPa turned out to be just a football coach.
When I first saw the news of the Board’s decision last night, I assumed they were sticking it to Joe – paying him back for not leaving when they told him to five years ago – and that their refusal to allow him a final home game was needlessly mean-spirited. The more I learn, though, it seems like they might actually have been trying to do him a favor. This is only going to get worse for him.
Excellent points.
I believe PSU was doing Joe P a favor as well now that you mention it.
holy fuck! just goes to show, the blind support for those implicated is way out of line...
Seriously, right? Those of us who are not PSU fans I think haveoften found the "JoPa" stuff a little over the top, but Jesus, it sounds like it was Jonestown over there.
To think that numerous people apparently turned a blind eye (and worse) to seriel child rape is simply incomprehensible. You couldn't make this up - nobody would believe you . ![]()
if you tried to write a novel or movie with this plot you'd get laughed right out of the office. Nobody would believe it.
holy fuck! just goes to show, the blind support for those implicated is way out of line...
Seriously, right? Those of us who are not PSU fans I think haveoften found the "JoPa" stuff a little over the top, but Jesus, it sounds like it was Jonestown over there.
To think that numerous people apparently turned a blind eye (and worse) to seriel child rape is simply incomprehensible. You couldn't make this up - nobody would believe you . ![]()
if you tried to write a novel or movie with this plot you'd get laughed right out of the office. Nobody would believe it.
And now Joe Pa has hired a prominant criminal attorney- things are getting more and more interesting!!
And now Joe Pa has hired a prominant criminal attorney- things are getting more and more interesting!!
Interesting. Has anyone speculated that that's how Paterno kept his job as long as he wanted basically. He knew of this episode and the AD/Prez didn't want it coming out. Paterno probably said or intimated, maybe even at that time, let me stay as long as I damned want and I'll keep quiet. Force me out and I'll spill the beans. Could be the case. Would be sick all the way around.
Interesting. Has anyone speculated that that's how Paterno kept his job as long as he wanted basically. He knew of this episode and the AD/Prez didn't want it coming out. Paterno probably said or intimated, maybe even at that time, let me stay as long as I damned want and I'll keep quiet. Force me out and I'll spill the beans. Could be the case. Would be sick all the way around.
that's two more eyewitnesses than they normally have for these kinds of cases. the case against sandusky will be fine.
that's two more eyewitnesses than they normally have for these kinds of cases. the case against sandusky will be fine.
Bottom line is.............Penn St(more specifically Joe Pa) dealt with this whole matter in house and thought it would never see the light of day as the years passed. Child molestation always comes out, sooner or later, it's a serious crime that often takes the victims years to finally come forward, due to embarrasment, feelings of guilt (that is was somehow their fault, how could they let it happen) etc. etc.
Absolutely the worst crime that anyone can commit in my books..................child molestation affects the victim for many years after the act.
Badlands nailed it when he said: Joe Pa would have NEVER in a million years risked tarnishing the Penn St brand in any way ...thus he did what he thought was best for the the program and tried to sweep it all under the rug.
Joe Pa put Penn St before the well being of several kids...........Joe is a guitly man, HE KNOWS IT believe me HE KNOWS IT !!!!
Bottom line is.............Penn St(more specifically Joe Pa) dealt with this whole matter in house and thought it would never see the light of day as the years passed. Child molestation always comes out, sooner or later, it's a serious crime that often takes the victims years to finally come forward, due to embarrasment, feelings of guilt (that is was somehow their fault, how could they let it happen) etc. etc.
Absolutely the worst crime that anyone can commit in my books..................child molestation affects the victim for many years after the act.
Badlands nailed it when he said: Joe Pa would have NEVER in a million years risked tarnishing the Penn St brand in any way ...thus he did what he thought was best for the the program and tried to sweep it all under the rug.
Joe Pa put Penn St before the well being of several kids...........Joe is a guitly man, HE KNOWS IT believe me HE KNOWS IT !!!!
Interesting. Has anyone speculated that that's how Paterno kept his job as long as he wanted basically. He knew of this episode and the AD/Prez didn't want it coming out. Paterno probably said or intimated, maybe even at that time, let me stay as long as I damned want and I'll keep quiet. Force me out and I'll spill the beans. Could be the case. Would be sick all the way around.
Hmm. Maybe. Of course, spilling the beans would implicate him as well, and tarnish the PSU brand. Still, once the big-wigs had all bought-in at some level (perhaps not really knowing what sort of conduct they were condoning; perhaps knowing damn well what sort of conduct they were condoning), it was like mutually-assured-destruction (and old Cold War term for you youngsters) - they were all going to have jobs for freaking life! These folks all had really comforatble lives (and about three decades more to spend above ground than Paterno figured to), so the threat of exposure must have weighed on them like lead.
Interesting. Has anyone speculated that that's how Paterno kept his job as long as he wanted basically. He knew of this episode and the AD/Prez didn't want it coming out. Paterno probably said or intimated, maybe even at that time, let me stay as long as I damned want and I'll keep quiet. Force me out and I'll spill the beans. Could be the case. Would be sick all the way around.
Hmm. Maybe. Of course, spilling the beans would implicate him as well, and tarnish the PSU brand. Still, once the big-wigs had all bought-in at some level (perhaps not really knowing what sort of conduct they were condoning; perhaps knowing damn well what sort of conduct they were condoning), it was like mutually-assured-destruction (and old Cold War term for you youngsters) - they were all going to have jobs for freaking life! These folks all had really comforatble lives (and about three decades more to spend above ground than Paterno figured to), so the threat of exposure must have weighed on them like lead.
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