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#51
THe game of roulette is RANDOM, but that does not mean EVERY number will be drawn equally---
Ex- You will see over time, that dealers repeat numbers. Its just the way it is-
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Roulette FANS lets TALK--
Posted:
#53
Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:
People who argue with MATH do not lose 100% of the time VAN---
Sorry VAN I am not buying for arguments. It is easier to PICK apart any system or any ones ideas.
This is essentially what you are doing, you are not taking into account a few factors that you are overlooking..
From a math standpoint the ROULETTE wheel has a HOUSE edge of 5.2% and that will make the HOUSE money overtime, however what you FAILED to realize is there are a small percentage of WINNERS in there also--
Its like in sports, there is some capper out there hitting 70% regularly on games. It is rare but it is happening--
VAN you are not taking into account any of these factors. There are people that can beat the Roulette wheel and understand how the wheel flows--
If you spin a wheel thousands of times, you will see patterns establish themselves. Its not rocket science, IE when a number does not come up for 200 spins, it will come up soon as its due, statistically the ball will land on all numbers over many spins--
Ps- Its easier to sit and bash any system, but what you are forgetting is that I am not lucky, I can predict accurately where that BALL is going to land, by understanding the ENERGY the table has and understanding how numbers repeat on tables..
People who argue with MATH do not lose 100% of the time VAN---
Sorry VAN I am not buying for arguments. It is easier to PICK apart any system or any ones ideas.
This is essentially what you are doing, you are not taking into account a few factors that you are overlooking..
From a math standpoint the ROULETTE wheel has a HOUSE edge of 5.2% and that will make the HOUSE money overtime, however what you FAILED to realize is there are a small percentage of WINNERS in there also--
Its like in sports, there is some capper out there hitting 70% regularly on games. It is rare but it is happening--
VAN you are not taking into account any of these factors. There are people that can beat the Roulette wheel and understand how the wheel flows--
If you spin a wheel thousands of times, you will see patterns establish themselves. Its not rocket science, IE when a number does not come up for 200 spins, it will come up soon as its due, statistically the ball will land on all numbers over many spins--
Ps- Its easier to sit and bash any system, but what you are forgetting is that I am not lucky, I can predict accurately where that BALL is going to land, by understanding the ENERGY the table has and understanding how numbers repeat on tables..
1. Math accounts for what you are talking about - it is called "variance".
2. Im not "bashing". I realize to you it sounds like I am, but I am presenting mathematics as my evidence. Your evidence is not math based. Thats OK.
3. You cannot predict where a ball is going to land. If you can, and if you can feel the "ENERGY", then I suggest you apply to be tested by any one of a number of scientists who will give you millions to prove any such ability. Why waste your time gambling on roulette when you can be handed million dollar checks just for proving your ability?
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Posted:
#54
Thanks VAN---
There is something about that wheel that I seem to be able to predict--
I am not physic , I just play on probabilities and it seems to work.
You are right though, part of roulette is LUCK also,
I will let you guys know how I do tonight again, I am 4-0 so far with the same strategy but I understand about Varience and losing also--
NO GAME is beatable in that sense, but lets see how much i can win anyway at this point--
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Posted:
#55
this guy just doesn't get it Van. You can explain it using the easiest to understand terms but he clearly does not have the mental capacity to understand that what he is saying is a proven fact to be wrong and not even just a little wrong, i mean completely wrong.
There is no such thing as "due" - if the number 8 hasnt been spun for 500 spins, the odds of it being spun in spin 501 is the exact same as the 1st spin. The weheel has no idea that it hasnt been spun in that long. It is an object with no brain power at all Sammy. Sorta like yourself. The odds of it hitting an 8 are the same, every spin, regardless of your garbage theories like wind
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Posted:
#59
OK, I am getting a good laugh out of this. There are some people out there that don't understand math. I'm pretty sure that 90% of the people on this board will realize that this "strategy" is complete b.s. but it does provide a pretty good illustration of why most people fail at sports gambling.
People expect that random numbers will not form patterns. Random numbers do form patterns. These patterns occasionally overlap with things that seem like they should be significant but aren't. If the Roulette wheel has landed on an odd number 7 of the last 10, is that significant? Absolutely not.
If the Jaguars have beaten the spread in 7 of the last 10 night games on artificial turf, is that significant? Almost certainly not, but quite a few people will mistakenly think that it is.
The biggest lesson of all of gambling.
Don't be surprised when random numbers form patterns. They will. Its perfectly natural. Will the pattern continue? It might.
Betting on it continuing is a mistake. Betting on it not continuing is also a mistake.
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Posted:
#60
Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:
Whoa, now Lippsman! Don't include BJ in this conversation. It is a game of skill, unlike roulette.
vanzack,
I was going to post something, but I see you have it well in hand.
I see this one, blackjack and craps threads here and will just shake my head 99% of the time. No wonder why they keep building casinos when the economy sucks.
There is one born every moment.
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Posted:
#61
Quote Originally Posted by Snappa:
Whoa, now Lippsman! Don't include BJ in this conversation. It is a game of skill, unlike roulette.
Whoa, now Lippsman! Don't include BJ in this conversation. It is a game of skill, unlike roulette.
No, really ??? Thanks for that 411 
Then you haven't seen the half baked threads started about it have you?
Such as I hate the player that hits when they are not suposed to. They caused me to lose money.
Shit like that.
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Posted:
#62
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
1. Math accounts for what you are talking about - it is called "variance".
2. Im not "bashing". I realize to you it sounds like I am, but I am presenting mathematics as my evidence. Your evidence is not math based. Thats OK.
3. You cannot predict where a ball is going to land. If you can, and if you can feel the "ENERGY", then I suggest you apply to be tested by any one of a number of scientists who will give you millions to prove any such ability. Why waste your time gambling on roulette when you can be handed million dollar checks just for proving your ability?
vanzack........for the win
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Posted:
#65
Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:
I factor in that their wheels are fairly old and I dont believe they can ever make a wheel 100% RANDOM---
WIND could even play a role in numbers falling, the motion from people walking past the wheel could have an effect on the ball--
All these factors could lead to a ball falling in a certain area of the wheel----
This is a game that I think is almost RANDOM but not 100% random---
If a dealer wanted to, I think they can accurately throw the BALL in a certain part of the wheel--
I factor in that their wheels are fairly old and I dont believe they can ever make a wheel 100% RANDOM---
WIND could even play a role in numbers falling, the motion from people walking past the wheel could have an effect on the ball--
All these factors could lead to a ball falling in a certain area of the wheel----
This is a game that I think is almost RANDOM but not 100% random---
If a dealer wanted to, I think they can accurately throw the BALL in a certain part of the wheel--
the last sentance is so true, I have a friend who is a dealer at the casino and he can get the ball to land in any area he wants, not any number, but any area of the wheel. If you pay attention the the are around where the ball is landing you can make big money
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Posted:
#66
Quote Originally Posted by Optimus-Prime:
the last sentance is so true, I have a friend who is a dealer at the casino and he can get the ball to land in any area he wants, not any number, but any area of the wheel. If you pay attention the the are around where the ball is landing you can make big money
If this is true....(and I have serious doubts...to say the least) you still need the dealer to be acting in collusion with you to defraud the casino.
I suppose I might believe in this "strategy" if my best friend was a dealer and we had set up a roulette wheel in my garage and he had proven his ability over thousands of practice spins.
For those of us without friends with proven roulette spinning ability, this "strategy" is completely useless.
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