Tired of all the noise about how Tim Duncan is a better player than David Robinson was..Duncan has had a better career than Robinson, that's it.
And that is due to to the team around Duncan. Robinson had Avery Johnson getting him the ball (an avg point guard) and the 2nd best player for most of Robinson's career was Sean Elloit (a slightly above avg player)....Duncan has had several all stars get him the ball (Robinson in fact created many of his shots). And the 2nd best player on Duncan's team is a tie: T. Parker and M. Ginobli BOTH all stars on ANY team in the NBA (Elliot prob would not be).
What is most troubling is actually how knee jerk people are about it, as if Duncan is far superior to Robinson, it's not even a contest. Dont confuse a player's success won thru the team as his own individual talent/success (in that case Barry Sanders is a loser and not in the greatest RB debate). Robinson was an elite defender and scorer. He defended against the greatest generation/cluster of centers in NBA history almost every night and still out scored most of them!
Duncan has so much team depth around him that no one has expected him to lead the team on the court, even when the games/series is on the line over the last few years. And his age has hand nothing to do with it either...it is the Spurs depth.
You dudes, caught up in the moment need to check yourself. Prob part of the same crowd who say Lebron is better than Jordan. Victims of the moment...explains how vegas makes so much money every year.
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Tired of all the noise about how Tim Duncan is a better player than David Robinson was..Duncan has had a better career than Robinson, that's it.
And that is due to to the team around Duncan. Robinson had Avery Johnson getting him the ball (an avg point guard) and the 2nd best player for most of Robinson's career was Sean Elloit (a slightly above avg player)....Duncan has had several all stars get him the ball (Robinson in fact created many of his shots). And the 2nd best player on Duncan's team is a tie: T. Parker and M. Ginobli BOTH all stars on ANY team in the NBA (Elliot prob would not be).
What is most troubling is actually how knee jerk people are about it, as if Duncan is far superior to Robinson, it's not even a contest. Dont confuse a player's success won thru the team as his own individual talent/success (in that case Barry Sanders is a loser and not in the greatest RB debate). Robinson was an elite defender and scorer. He defended against the greatest generation/cluster of centers in NBA history almost every night and still out scored most of them!
Duncan has so much team depth around him that no one has expected him to lead the team on the court, even when the games/series is on the line over the last few years. And his age has hand nothing to do with it either...it is the Spurs depth.
You dudes, caught up in the moment need to check yourself. Prob part of the same crowd who say Lebron is better than Jordan. Victims of the moment...explains how vegas makes so much money every year.
Funny. Duncan was the Spurs leading scorer, rebounder, blocker and the second most assists behind Johnson, when he was a rookie. Robinson had a few mediocre seasons in his 14-year career, while Duncan has been consistent every year now for SEVENTEEN YEARS.
We can twist anything to fit an argument, but to act like Duncan is widely considered the greatest PF of all-time simply because he has other great players around him is insane.
And LeBron does have a chance to be better than Jordan, but I'll wait for him to hang them up before opening that debate. His book is still being written.
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Funny. Duncan was the Spurs leading scorer, rebounder, blocker and the second most assists behind Johnson, when he was a rookie. Robinson had a few mediocre seasons in his 14-year career, while Duncan has been consistent every year now for SEVENTEEN YEARS.
We can twist anything to fit an argument, but to act like Duncan is widely considered the greatest PF of all-time simply because he has other great players around him is insane.
And LeBron does have a chance to be better than Jordan, but I'll wait for him to hang them up before opening that debate. His book is still being written.
Funny. Duncan was the Spurs leading scorer, rebounder, blocker and the second most assists behind Johnson, when he was a rookie. Robinson had a few mediocre seasons in his 14-year career, while Duncan has been consistent every year now for SEVENTEEN YEARS.
We can twist anything to fit an argument, but to act like Duncan is widely considered the greatest PF of all-time simply because he has other great players around him is insane.
And LeBron does have a chance to be better than Jordan, but I'll wait for him to hang them up before opening that debate. His book is still being written.
Don't forget that because Robinson went to the Naval Academy that he had to spend ALL 4 years in college PLUS 2 years after that fulfilling his commitments. So compared to today's players, many of whom are one and done in college, he had to spend a few years of his prime playing days serving the country. That is why his time spent in the NBA seems short, he was 24 before the nation released him from his commitments.
As far as the number of championships he has won compared to Duncan, I have to agree with he OP, the competition was so much tougher back in the 80s and 90s. Not only where there a lot more great players, but there were also a lot more great TEAMS. That means winning in the league was that much tougher.
Plus, come on now, nobody was winning Championships during that time while Micheal Jordan was winning his 6.
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Quote Originally Posted by RandyC726:
Funny. Duncan was the Spurs leading scorer, rebounder, blocker and the second most assists behind Johnson, when he was a rookie. Robinson had a few mediocre seasons in his 14-year career, while Duncan has been consistent every year now for SEVENTEEN YEARS.
We can twist anything to fit an argument, but to act like Duncan is widely considered the greatest PF of all-time simply because he has other great players around him is insane.
And LeBron does have a chance to be better than Jordan, but I'll wait for him to hang them up before opening that debate. His book is still being written.
Don't forget that because Robinson went to the Naval Academy that he had to spend ALL 4 years in college PLUS 2 years after that fulfilling his commitments. So compared to today's players, many of whom are one and done in college, he had to spend a few years of his prime playing days serving the country. That is why his time spent in the NBA seems short, he was 24 before the nation released him from his commitments.
As far as the number of championships he has won compared to Duncan, I have to agree with he OP, the competition was so much tougher back in the 80s and 90s. Not only where there a lot more great players, but there were also a lot more great TEAMS. That means winning in the league was that much tougher.
Plus, come on now, nobody was winning Championships during that time while Micheal Jordan was winning his 6.
Your statement makes no sense and makes you look dumb! Duncan had a better career than Robinson, but that's it!? You answered your own question!!! People need to graduate highs school before allows to post on forums.....
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Your statement makes no sense and makes you look dumb! Duncan had a better career than Robinson, but that's it!? You answered your own question!!! People need to graduate highs school before allows to post on forums.....
Your statement makes no sense and makes you look dumb! Duncan had a better career than Robinson, but that's it!? You answered your own question!!! People need to graduate highs school before allows to post on forums.....
Uh....agreed.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jimboski03:
Your statement makes no sense and makes you look dumb! Duncan had a better career than Robinson, but that's it!? You answered your own question!!! People need to graduate highs school before allows to post on forums.....
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