With Millions of Illegal Immigrants Entering Arizona, Crime is Down Across the Board

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of course, the local politicians trying to get elected won't tell you this because pointing to one or two violent crimes is good for the campaign. so, is making pointless laws about stopping illegal immigants to get the ignorant "conservatives" who think it might make any difference (other than the further expenditure of money) all excited.

i say ship the lazy americans to mexico and other south and central american countries and keep the tens of millions of peaceful, hard-working mexicans and other hispanics here.

ClubDirt · Answer

of course, the local politicians trying to get elected won't tell you this because pointing to one or two violent crimes is good for the campaign. so, is making pointless laws about stopping illegal immigants to get the ignorant "conservatives" who think it might make any difference (other than the further expenditure of money) all excited.

i say ship the lazy americans to mexico and other south and central american countries and keep the tens of millions of peaceful, hard-working mexicans and other hispanics here.

wallstreetcappers · Answer

Agree with those comments.

Travis77 · Answer

Obama is suing Arizona and is going to put a stop to their insanity.

Sharkysden · Answer

If they pay taxes like the rest of us then they can stay

gutcheck · Answer

Basically what you are saying is that we should give our country up? Am I reading this correctly?

Henry-Lilly · Answer

And he will FAIL.  It&#x27;s posturing.  Look at States&#x27; Rights under the 10th Amendment. Obama

potter36 · Answer

How is what they are doing any different than simply enforcing a federal law on the books that is not being enforced?

-29- · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by ClubDirt] &#xD;&#xA;i say ship the lazy americans to mexico and other south and central american countries and keep the tens of millions of peaceful, hard-working mexicans and other hispanics here.  &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;  That really wouldn&#x27;t be an option since Mexico has incredibly restrictive immigration laws and even overstaying your visa can land you in jail.

RichardA · Answer

&#xD;&#xA;exactly.  the arizona law in many times more liberal than the federal law that is already on the books. the federal law says that any police officer can pull anyone over, or question the citizenship for any reason whatsoever. for any reason.  the az law says a person has to be at least suspected of a crime of some kind  to be questioned about their immigration status.&#xD;&#xA;btw......very low chance  that this law is overturned

potter36 · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by -29-] &#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;  That really wouldn&#x27;t be an option since Mexico has incredibly restrictive immigration laws and even overstaying your visa can land you in jail.  [/Quote] You mean a county that actually enforces its laws????

The Hawk · Answer

Actually, kidnapping in Arizona is up, and you&#x27;ll never guess those involved...............

-29- · Answer

&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA; Yeah,why should the people that actually live in Arizona have their vote count.Obama knows what is best for them.

bill1947 · Answer

Having people follow the law is insanity....If the folks in the USA are so terrible, why don't you leave?? Go camping on the Arizona border, it's safe....really....bring a GPS, you can help the coyotes out, they carry guns now, so you will be safe. Maybe they will give you a bale of weed.

djbrow · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by RichardA] &#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;exactly.  the arizona law in many times more liberal than the federal law that is already on the books. the federal law says that any police officer can pull anyone over, or question the citizenship for any reason whatsoever. for any reason.  the az law says a person has to be at least suspected of a crime of some kind  to be questioned about their immigration status.&#xD;&#xA;btw......very low chance  that this law is overturned&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Actually, that is completely false. Arizona will become the first State to allow for the police to seize the detainee on the low threshold of lawful police contact (which can be for pretty much anything). That isn&#x27;t close to the Federal law&#x27;s standard for police contact and obtaining identification.

bill1947 · Answer

Here is the reason why it&#x27;s safer in Arizona

bill1947 · Answer

OOPS try thishttps://lighthousepatriotjournal.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/dossier-joseph-m-arpaio-americas-toughest-sheriff/

bill1947 · Answer

This is the answer for low crime figures:https://www.mcso.org/

ClubDirt · Answer

the republicans already gave our country up by offerring ten million plus ilegal immigrants jobs (and continuing to do so).  democrats didn&#x27;t help any.  so, that&#x27;s old news, and not what i&#x27;m saying.  this post is offered more to show the hypocrisy of some of these politicians exploiting a violent crime committed here or there by an illegal immigrant to push their agenda and get (re)elected when the FBI stats show crime is down across the board in arizona.

bill1947 · Answer

They have to be stopped for something else before they can ask for ID.

Some people might not know that since the 1940s, federal law has required non-citizens who are in the United States permanently to carry on their person, at all times, the official documents proving that they are here legally — green card, work visa, etc. That has been the law for 70 years, and the new Arizona law does not change it.

djbrow · Answer

&#xD;&#xA;Because Byron York said so? &#xD;&#xA;You could at least change a couple of the words. &#xD;&#xA;They don&#x27;t have to be stopped and therein lies the rub. It only needs to be a lawful police encounter. Not a stop, not suspected criminal activity.

Dude_Abides · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by djbrow] &#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;Because Byron York said so? &#xD;&#xA;You could at least change a couple of the words. &#xD;&#xA;They don&#x27;t have to be stopped and therein lies the rub. It only needs to be a lawful police encounter. Not a stop, not suspected criminal activity. &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;"Yo, Holmes. Where&#x27;s a good place to get a taco?"&#xD;&#xA;That could be a lawful police encounter, the way the thing is written. "By the way, you got ID?"

jackjaffee · Answer

I don&#x27;t know if this is the same article someone posted a couple weeks back in the politics forum, but it is using the same reporting style for sure.  The article itself doesn&#x27;t state anything about if crime is down with illegals, just crime in general.  Yet he tries to lean the story towards it means crime is down with illegals as well.  So basically this article is assuming or pushing the reader to assume that crime with illegals is down too, where that may or may not be the actual case.  Personally, I think the reporter did a shitty job with the story in that regard.

wallstreetcappers · Answer

So lets see here..Who is the court going to believe when these issues come up, the policeman or the minority?Sure..we all know that the minority individual who had their rights disregarded will be believed over a policeman.Nothing to be concerned about..just Arizona cleaning up the streets, pretty soon they will pave them with gold, I am looking forward to that.

Killer_B · Answer

Tell that to the family of the rancher that was killed by an illegal a couple months ago.I&#x27;d like to ask the forum.Would you ever go to a foreign country without proper documentation?

ClubDirt · Answer

if i was living in some shithole making $40/week if i was lucky and i knew some big american company was inviting me to come over here to pay me $600/week with stable employment, yeah i&#x27;d come over in a heartbeat, just like the 10 - 20 million hispanics have already.

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