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    While most of you think the sport is a joke and the odds are massive, massive chalk typically prevails. So I use these in parlays to knock off the juice.

    I will say this: Of late the WWE has been pulling off some massive swerves with major longshots hitting so if you want to try your luck, there is no better place to hit a >=+500 ML.

    Main Event

    Lesnar -2750

    Vs.

    Golderberg +1250

    Prediction: There is zero chance Goldberg wins and retains the title. He beat Lesnar at Survivor Series in about 15 seconds. Then he eliminated Lesnar from the Royal Rumble like he was a piece of trash.

    The WWE has already shi* on the investment they've made in Brock over all these years and going down 3 straight would be suicide for the Fed (not like they didn't already commit it).

    Lesnar -2750 wins.

    Main-Event lead-in

    Undertaker +330

    vs.

    Roman Reigns -490

    These are the longest odds in the history of Taker's WM match participation against him.

    He's 23-1...and a +330 underdog. That's pretty amazing value.

    EXCEPT for predetermined matches.

    The bottom line is that he's 52 and recently had hip surgery.

    From a dedicate insider from his last match:

    “So Undertaker, he was hurting real bad last night,” Meltzer said, according to Comicbook.com. “I mean you could look at him and you could see that he wasn’t in shape, and you know… it’s the hip…I mean there’s nothing else to really say about it…But even that when he was backstage he was hurting a lot.”

    Did anyone see Reigns spear him on Raw? He looked like dead weight. Went down in a heap. I believe Raw didn't let him leave the ring because he may have limped back.

    The ONE problem with this result:

    The fans will go batshi* crazy if Reigns wins. Taker is beloved the world over and Reigns is similarly reviled.

    That's why there is actually value on the dog here especially with the world saying this may be Taker's last match (the WWE loves to swerve the public, remember).

    Still if Reigns loses, where the hell does he go but down. Perhaps interference by Strowman wins it for Reigns or perhaps Strowman comes down to go after Taker and accidently nails Reigns so Reigns doesn't go down clean.

    Prediction: I need to do some more research on this match to ensure Reigns goes over. Reigns for now but that may change.


    More matches to come!

    Stay tuned fans!

    Let's get the old crew in here. Kapono Sparky Jarrett etc.





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    While most of you think the sport is a joke and the odds are massive, massive chalk typically prevails. So I use these in parlays to knock off the juice.

    I will say this: Of late the WWE has been pulling off some massive swerves with major longshots hitting so if you want to try your luck, there is no better place to hit a >=+500 ML.

    Main Event

    Lesnar -2750

    Vs.

    Golderberg +1250

    Prediction: There is zero chance Goldberg wins and retains the title. He beat Lesnar at Survivor Series in about 15 seconds. Then he eliminated Lesnar from the Royal Rumble like he was a piece of trash.

    The WWE has already shi* on the investment they've made in Brock over all these years and going down 3 straight would be suicide for the Fed (not like they didn't already commit it).

    Lesnar -2750 wins.

    Main-Event lead-in

    Undertaker +330

    vs.

    Roman Reigns -490

    These are the longest odds in the history of Taker's WM match participation against him.

    He's 23-1...and a +330 underdog. That's pretty amazing value.

    EXCEPT for predetermined matches.

    The bottom line is that he's 52 and recently had hip surgery.

    From a dedicate insider from his last match:

    “So Undertaker, he was hurting real bad last night,” Meltzer said, according to Comicbook.com. “I mean you could look at him and you could see that he wasn’t in shape, and you know… it’s the hip…I mean there’s nothing else to really say about it…But even that when he was backstage he was hurting a lot.”

    Did anyone see Reigns spear him on Raw? He looked like dead weight. Went down in a heap. I believe Raw didn't let him leave the ring because he may have limped back.

    The ONE problem with this result:

    The fans will go batshi* crazy if Reigns wins. Taker is beloved the world over and Reigns is similarly reviled.

    That's why there is actually value on the dog here especially with the world saying this may be Taker's last match (the WWE loves to swerve the public, remember).

    Still if Reigns loses, where the hell does he go but down. Perhaps interference by Strowman wins it for Reigns or perhaps Strowman comes down to go after Taker and accidently nails Reigns so Reigns doesn't go down clean.

    Prediction: I need to do some more research on this match to ensure Reigns goes over. Reigns for now but that may change.


    More matches to come!

    Stay tuned fans!

    Let's get the old crew in here. Kapono Sparky Jarrett etc.





     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2017 - 8:50 PM ET #2

    From a gambling perspective the SD womens champioship is interesting. Both Carmella and Naomi at 11/10. 

    Gotta think Carmela pulls it off. She could have a good feud with Naomi post WM. Ellsworth and Jimmy Uso involved also just makes sense to me. 


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    From a gambling perspective the SD womens champioship is interesting. Both Carmella and Naomi at 11/10. 

    Gotta think Carmela pulls it off. She could have a good feud with Naomi post WM. Ellsworth and Jimmy Uso involved also just makes sense to me. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    From a gambling perspective the SD womens champioship is interesting. Both Carmella and Naomi at 11/10. 

    Gotta think Carmela pulls it off. She could have a good feud with Naomi post WM. Ellsworth and Jimmy Uso involved also just makes sense to me. 



    Carmella can DEFINITELY win. Not a bad pick at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    From a gambling perspective the SD womens champioship is interesting. Both Carmella and Naomi at 11/10. 

    Gotta think Carmela pulls it off. She could have a good feud with Naomi post WM. Ellsworth and Jimmy Uso involved also just makes sense to me. 



    Carmella can DEFINITELY win. Not a bad pick at all.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2017 - 11:08 PM ET #4

    No way in hell they job Brock out again in this spot but -3000 isn't worth betting.



    As for Reigns/Taker, WWE doesn't care if Reigns is booed out of the building, Cena is booed out of the building every pay per view and they still push him to the moon. I don't think the fans go batshit crazy though, this isn't a northeast crowd, it's in Orlando and it's going to be a smarky crowd that will be half expecting Reigns to win. They will be too busy paying their respects to Taker after the match to worry about Reigns.

    Make no mistake about it, Taker isn't winning. He is in brutal shape as you stated and I heard a report that Vince had considered putting this match on last so I'm entirely convinced it's his last Wrestlemania. Undertaker is old school, he's going to job on the way out to the new golden boy. I would bet my entire bankroll on it, but I'll still wait for the results to leak on 5dimes and pound the old lines on Bovada before they take them down.
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    No way in hell they job Brock out again in this spot but -3000 isn't worth betting.



    As for Reigns/Taker, WWE doesn't care if Reigns is booed out of the building, Cena is booed out of the building every pay per view and they still push him to the moon. I don't think the fans go batshit crazy though, this isn't a northeast crowd, it's in Orlando and it's going to be a smarky crowd that will be half expecting Reigns to win. They will be too busy paying their respects to Taker after the match to worry about Reigns.

    Make no mistake about it, Taker isn't winning. He is in brutal shape as you stated and I heard a report that Vince had considered putting this match on last so I'm entirely convinced it's his last Wrestlemania. Undertaker is old school, he's going to job on the way out to the new golden boy. I would bet my entire bankroll on it, but I'll still wait for the results to leak on 5dimes and pound the old lines on Bovada before they take them down.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2017 - 11:14 PM ET #5

    I would just like to add, when Ric Flair had his retirement match Vince actually did offer the main event spot to him and HBK but Ric turned it down saying the World Title should close the show. So when I heard that Vince thought about putting Taker on last, that to me confirmed my belief that this is his last go around.
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    I would just like to add, when Ric Flair had his retirement match Vince actually did offer the main event spot to him and HBK but Ric turned it down saying the World Title should close the show. So when I heard that Vince thought about putting Taker on last, that to me confirmed my belief that this is his last go around.
     
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    Wrestlemania is fake please use ur real brain. 
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    Wrestlemania is fake please use ur real brain. 
     
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    wagering on a pre-determined outcome.....

    does not have any logical methodology attached to a handicap whatsoever. (you're flushing your money down the toilet)

    to each his own. GL to the degenerates who lean on this betting platform; you'll need plenty of it! and a book who'll even consider taking your wagers. one thing for sure, you won't find that sportsbook in LV.

    have fun

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    wagering on a pre-determined outcome.....

    does not have any logical methodology attached to a handicap whatsoever. (you're flushing your money down the toilet)

    to each his own. GL to the degenerates who lean on this betting platform; you'll need plenty of it! and a book who'll even consider taking your wagers. one thing for sure, you won't find that sportsbook in LV.

    have fun

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:

    I would just like to add, when Ric Flair had his retirement match Vince actually did offer the main event spot to him and HBK but Ric turned it down saying the World Title should close the show. So when I heard that Vince thought about putting Taker on last, that to me confirmed my belief that this is his last go around.

    That's a good angle (as long as it's true!).

    I just want to say something about the boos for Reign's.

    "Cena sucks!" chants actually have a deep subterranean respect for him for him. Fans get off on saying it because it's catchy with his music (much like Kurt Angle with "You Suck" chants and we all know he was one of the best).

    Reigns has what is called "Vickie Guerrero heat" where the fans wil legitimately hate the guy as a wrestler or performer because he is being forced on them by top brass.

    Two very different types of heat. One respectful, and one that would be like walking into a fireworks factory with a match to look inside crates. Keep doing that and it could blow up in the WWE's face.


    Sports - you don't know how irrational you sound by saying that.

    The one thing you WOULD want to wager on is a pre-determined outcome. 

    In fact, we're doing it  every night in a small way in the NBA. Both the Lakers and Suns are trying to lose out for the #2 lottery spot. And the Lakers tank mode is particularly embarrassing as the Suns at least have some fight.

    Therefore we turn to those games first for almost a guaranteed loss with ML's that are, in several cases, MUCH better than wrestling which has a guaranteed winner many moons before the match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:

    I would just like to add, when Ric Flair had his retirement match Vince actually did offer the main event spot to him and HBK but Ric turned it down saying the World Title should close the show. So when I heard that Vince thought about putting Taker on last, that to me confirmed my belief that this is his last go around.

    That's a good angle (as long as it's true!).

    I just want to say something about the boos for Reign's.

    "Cena sucks!" chants actually have a deep subterranean respect for him for him. Fans get off on saying it because it's catchy with his music (much like Kurt Angle with "You Suck" chants and we all know he was one of the best).

    Reigns has what is called "Vickie Guerrero heat" where the fans wil legitimately hate the guy as a wrestler or performer because he is being forced on them by top brass.

    Two very different types of heat. One respectful, and one that would be like walking into a fireworks factory with a match to look inside crates. Keep doing that and it could blow up in the WWE's face.


    Sports - you don't know how irrational you sound by saying that.

    The one thing you WOULD want to wager on is a pre-determined outcome. 

    In fact, we're doing it  every night in a small way in the NBA. Both the Lakers and Suns are trying to lose out for the #2 lottery spot. And the Lakers tank mode is particularly embarrassing as the Suns at least have some fight.

    Therefore we turn to those games first for almost a guaranteed loss with ML's that are, in several cases, MUCH better than wrestling which has a guaranteed winner many moons before the match.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    That's a good angle (as long as it's true!).

    I just want to say something about the boos for Reign's.

    "Cena sucks!" chants actually have a deep subterranean respect for him for him. Fans get off on saying it because it's catchy with his music (much like Kurt Angle with "You Suck" chants and we all know he was one of the best).

    Reigns has what is called "Vickie Guerrero heat" where the fans wil legitimately hate the guy as a wrestler or performer because he is being forced on them by top brass.

    Two very different types of heat. One respectful, and one that would be like walking into a fireworks factory with a match to look inside crates. Keep doing that and it could blow up in the WWE's face.


    Sports - you don't know how irrational you sound by saying that.

    The one thing you WOULD want to wager on is a pre-determined outcome. 

    In fact, we're doing it  every night in a small way in the NBA. Both the Lakers and Suns are trying to lose out for the #2 lottery spot. And the Lakers tank mode is particularly embarrassing as the Suns at least have some fight.

    Therefore we turn to those games first for almost a guaranteed loss with ML's that are, in several cases, MUCH better than wrestling which has a guaranteed winner many moons before the match.


    For what it's worth, HBK's last match also headlined over a John Cena world title defense.

    Anyway, I think Reigns would get over big as a heel but it will never happen because he's being groomed as the next Cena. He'd have to be booked correctly of course, which I don't trust their writers to do, but I digress.

    I still don't think they hijack the show or anything like that like when he won Royal Rumble. If the streak was still intact then yeah maybe lol, but I think you'll get a smattering of boos but once he leaves the ring it'll turn into "Thank you Taker" chants and we're off to the next match.
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    That's a good angle (as long as it's true!).

    I just want to say something about the boos for Reign's.

    "Cena sucks!" chants actually have a deep subterranean respect for him for him. Fans get off on saying it because it's catchy with his music (much like Kurt Angle with "You Suck" chants and we all know he was one of the best).

    Reigns has what is called "Vickie Guerrero heat" where the fans wil legitimately hate the guy as a wrestler or performer because he is being forced on them by top brass.

    Two very different types of heat. One respectful, and one that would be like walking into a fireworks factory with a match to look inside crates. Keep doing that and it could blow up in the WWE's face.


    Sports - you don't know how irrational you sound by saying that.

    The one thing you WOULD want to wager on is a pre-determined outcome. 

    In fact, we're doing it  every night in a small way in the NBA. Both the Lakers and Suns are trying to lose out for the #2 lottery spot. And the Lakers tank mode is particularly embarrassing as the Suns at least have some fight.

    Therefore we turn to those games first for almost a guaranteed loss with ML's that are, in several cases, MUCH better than wrestling which has a guaranteed winner many moons before the match.


    For what it's worth, HBK's last match also headlined over a John Cena world title defense.

    Anyway, I think Reigns would get over big as a heel but it will never happen because he's being groomed as the next Cena. He'd have to be booked correctly of course, which I don't trust their writers to do, but I digress.

    I still don't think they hijack the show or anything like that like when he won Royal Rumble. If the streak was still intact then yeah maybe lol, but I think you'll get a smattering of boos but once he leaves the ring it'll turn into "Thank you Taker" chants and we're off to the next match.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:



    For what it's worth, HBK's last match also headlined over a John Cena world title defense.

    Anyway, I think Reigns would get over big as a heel but it will never happen because he's being groomed as the next Cena. He'd have to be booked correctly of course, which I don't trust their writers to do, but I digress.

    I still don't think they hijack the show or anything like that like when he won Royal Rumble. If the streak was still intact then yeah maybe lol, but I think you'll get a smattering of boos but once he leaves the ring it'll turn into "Thank you Taker" chants and we're off to the next match.

    Jason,

    There will not be a smattering of boos, there will be an avalanche that the WWE will attempt to dull with massive pyrotechnics and/or a run in. 

    I agree this isn't Philly (the Rumble sight) but people are going ballistic online because they know Reigns will probably go over.

    In my view the biggest swerve would have taker (or Goldberg) go over and have that +500 pay is out for a guy who is 23-1 at WM!!! but as you and I noted, he looks horrific.
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    For what it's worth, HBK's last match also headlined over a John Cena world title defense.

    Anyway, I think Reigns would get over big as a heel but it will never happen because he's being groomed as the next Cena. He'd have to be booked correctly of course, which I don't trust their writers to do, but I digress.

    I still don't think they hijack the show or anything like that like when he won Royal Rumble. If the streak was still intact then yeah maybe lol, but I think you'll get a smattering of boos but once he leaves the ring it'll turn into "Thank you Taker" chants and we're off to the next match.

    Jason,

    There will not be a smattering of boos, there will be an avalanche that the WWE will attempt to dull with massive pyrotechnics and/or a run in. 

    I agree this isn't Philly (the Rumble sight) but people are going ballistic online because they know Reigns will probably go over.

    In my view the biggest swerve would have taker (or Goldberg) go over and have that +500 pay is out for a guy who is 23-1 at WM!!! but as you and I noted, he looks horrific.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    That's a good angle (as long as it's true!).

    I just want to say something about the boos for Reign's.

    "Cena sucks!" chants actually have a deep subterranean respect for him for him. Fans get off on saying it because it's catchy with his music (much like Kurt Angle with "You Suck" chants and we all know he was one of the best).

    Reigns has what is called "Vickie Guerrero heat" where the fans wil legitimately hate the guy as a wrestler or performer because he is being forced on them by top brass.

    Two very different types of heat. One respectful, and one that would be like walking into a fireworks factory with a match to look inside crates. Keep doing that and it could blow up in the WWE's face.


    Sports - you don't know how irrational you sound by saying that.

    The one thing you WOULD want to wager on is a pre-determined outcome. 

    In fact, we're doing it  every night in a small way in the NBA. Both the Lakers and Suns are trying to lose out for the #2 lottery spot. And the Lakers tank mode is particularly embarrassing as the Suns at least have some fight.

    Therefore we turn to those games first for almost a guaranteed loss with ML's that are, in several cases, MUCH better than wrestling which has a guaranteed winner many moons before the match.
    scal, come on man, we're talking about WrestleMania, your comparison to the NBA has no merit. However, I do have a question for you, three people know who's going to WIN days in advance, to the best of your knowledge, do any of these three bet on the match? if so, what sportsbook would take their action? I can't locate any book that takes a 'bet to win' wager, I have found a few that take prop bets, and they are limited to $500 ...so say someone wanted to play the ML favorite (thinking its an automatic WIN) what book would they use that would give them a $12,000 bet? are you actually betting on this match?
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    That's a good angle (as long as it's true!).

    I just want to say something about the boos for Reign's.

    "Cena sucks!" chants actually have a deep subterranean respect for him for him. Fans get off on saying it because it's catchy with his music (much like Kurt Angle with "You Suck" chants and we all know he was one of the best).

    Reigns has what is called "Vickie Guerrero heat" where the fans wil legitimately hate the guy as a wrestler or performer because he is being forced on them by top brass.

    Two very different types of heat. One respectful, and one that would be like walking into a fireworks factory with a match to look inside crates. Keep doing that and it could blow up in the WWE's face.


    Sports - you don't know how irrational you sound by saying that.

    The one thing you WOULD want to wager on is a pre-determined outcome. 

    In fact, we're doing it  every night in a small way in the NBA. Both the Lakers and Suns are trying to lose out for the #2 lottery spot. And the Lakers tank mode is particularly embarrassing as the Suns at least have some fight.

    Therefore we turn to those games first for almost a guaranteed loss with ML's that are, in several cases, MUCH better than wrestling which has a guaranteed winner many moons before the match.
    scal, come on man, we're talking about WrestleMania, your comparison to the NBA has no merit. However, I do have a question for you, three people know who's going to WIN days in advance, to the best of your knowledge, do any of these three bet on the match? if so, what sportsbook would take their action? I can't locate any book that takes a 'bet to win' wager, I have found a few that take prop bets, and they are limited to $500 ...so say someone wanted to play the ML favorite (thinking its an automatic WIN) what book would they use that would give them a $12,000 bet? are you actually betting on this match?
     
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    I can answer all your questions but this has to be answered:

    Do you really believe that the Lakers and Suns are not taking?

    If you DO, than that is essentially a SCRIPTED outcome. They are playing to LOSE. They may win a game more but in general they are intentionally throwing almost all their games through the coaching staff with orders from upper management. One of the only games in forever that the Lakers won was against....THE SUNS. What a surprise. It can't end in a tie!

    The EXACT same thing happens in a wrestling match.

    Both OUTCOMES are determined and only the passage of time needs to occur.

    If you KNOW THAT, why wouldn't you bet on it!

    How in the world does such a comparison have 'no merit'?
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    I can answer all your questions but this has to be answered:

    Do you really believe that the Lakers and Suns are not taking?

    If you DO, than that is essentially a SCRIPTED outcome. They are playing to LOSE. They may win a game more but in general they are intentionally throwing almost all their games through the coaching staff with orders from upper management. One of the only games in forever that the Lakers won was against....THE SUNS. What a surprise. It can't end in a tie!

    The EXACT same thing happens in a wrestling match.

    Both OUTCOMES are determined and only the passage of time needs to occur.

    If you KNOW THAT, why wouldn't you bet on it!

    How in the world does such a comparison have 'no merit'?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    scal, come on man, we're talking about WrestleMania, your comparison to the NBA has no merit. However, I do have a question for you, three people know who's going to WIN days in advance, to the best of your knowledge, do any of these three bet on the match? if so, what sportsbook would take their action? I can't locate any book that takes a 'bet to win' wager, I have found a few that take prop bets, and they are limited to $500 ...so say someone wanted to play the ML favorite (thinking its an automatic WIN) what book would they use that would give them a $12,000 bet? are you actually betting on this match?


    The bets are limited initially, but overall you can bet your whole roll on them.

    They have a $50 win max but for every single line move, even $.05, you can then rebet to win the max. And these lines move all over the place all week so you can bet as much as you want albeit at all different numbers, and yes, up to $12K as long as the line moves.

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    scal, come on man, we're talking about WrestleMania, your comparison to the NBA has no merit. However, I do have a question for you, three people know who's going to WIN days in advance, to the best of your knowledge, do any of these three bet on the match? if so, what sportsbook would take their action? I can't locate any book that takes a 'bet to win' wager, I have found a few that take prop bets, and they are limited to $500 ...so say someone wanted to play the ML favorite (thinking its an automatic WIN) what book would they use that would give them a $12,000 bet? are you actually betting on this match?


    The bets are limited initially, but overall you can bet your whole roll on them.

    They have a $50 win max but for every single line move, even $.05, you can then rebet to win the max. And these lines move all over the place all week so you can bet as much as you want albeit at all different numbers, and yes, up to $12K as long as the line moves.

     
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    Enzo and Cass to win the Raw Tag Team Titles -250

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    Field to win +177.

    This one is simple. It's an 'If not now, when?" approach. If you do not give the titles to Enzo and Cass here then there was no reason to ever bring them on the main roster.

    WWE will just have to break them up after this match if they do not win. Therefore, they pretty much have to win it. No one cares for the Bullet Club and Ceasaro and Sheamus had their title run (and the crowd is luke warm to them.

    Prediction: Enzo and Cass -250 (Great value!)

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    Enzo and Cass to win the Raw Tag Team Titles -250

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    Field to win +177.

    This one is simple. It's an 'If not now, when?" approach. If you do not give the titles to Enzo and Cass here then there was no reason to ever bring them on the main roster.

    WWE will just have to break them up after this match if they do not win. Therefore, they pretty much have to win it. No one cares for the Bullet Club and Ceasaro and Sheamus had their title run (and the crowd is luke warm to them.

    Prediction: Enzo and Cass -250 (Great value!)

     
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    UPDATE -

    Reigns has dropped to a -280 from -490.

    That's big.

    That means more and more cashflow is coming in on Taker. And in predetermined matches, that is a good indicator.

    The ONLY way I see Taker winning is if Reigns goes heel.

    A heel turn will overcome a loss in this match for him. If they keep him face and he loses to a crippled Taker, where does he go???

    So we'll keep monitoring. Not ready to say Taker yet but it's possible now.

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    UPDATE -

    Reigns has dropped to a -280 from -490.

    That's big.

    That means more and more cashflow is coming in on Taker. And in predetermined matches, that is a good indicator.

    The ONLY way I see Taker winning is if Reigns goes heel.

    A heel turn will overcome a loss in this match for him. If they keep him face and he loses to a crippled Taker, where does he go???

    So we'll keep monitoring. Not ready to say Taker yet but it's possible now.

     
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    Seth Rollins -400

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    Triple H +280


    This is  the easiest after Lesnar (By far the easiest). The part OWNER of the company is not going to beat one of the STARS and cornerstone of the Current Company so HE looks good.

    Triple H lays down here. There is no way you can afford Rollins losing after this feud has gone on for 1.5 years and that be the result

    Result: Rollins -400

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    Seth Rollins -400

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    Triple H +280


    This is  the easiest after Lesnar (By far the easiest). The part OWNER of the company is not going to beat one of the STARS and cornerstone of the Current Company so HE looks good.

    Triple H lays down here. There is no way you can afford Rollins losing after this feud has gone on for 1.5 years and that be the result

    Result: Rollins -400

     
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    Aj Styles -975

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    Shane McMahon +525

    Again, you cannot have an OWNER of the company beat the BEST WRESTLER in the company under any circumstances.

    Result: Styles -975 

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    Aj Styles -975

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    Shane McMahon +525

    Again, you cannot have an OWNER of the company beat the BEST WRESTLER in the company under any circumstances.

    Result: Styles -975 

     
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    Love the analysis Scal! Good to see you back doing wrestling. Will you be posting the actual plays you end up making?
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    Love the analysis Scal! Good to see you back doing wrestling. Will you be posting the actual plays you end up making?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Love the analysis Scal! Good to see you back doing wrestling. Will you be posting the actual plays you end up making?

    Yes! I am making one play comin up. Just finishing out the matches.


    Bayley -210

    vs.

    Charlotte +230

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    Sasha +470

    vs.

    Nia Jax +1500


    I don't like this match because Sasha HAS to turn on Bayley at some point. If she does, that opens the door for Charlotte or Nia to win.

    Having said that, I think the WWE would be incredibly stupid to put the title back on Charlotte AGAIN. We have seen enough of her with the Title.

    It needs to go on Sasha here or at worst be retained by Bayley. The nightmare scenario is Sasha is eliminated by Bayley leaving Bayley and Flair in the ring and Sasha nails Bayley so Flair can win.

    But I think even that is ridiculously far-fetched. Therefore the best value IMO is FIELD wins (Not Charlotte) at -310 on 5 Dimes


    Prediction: NOT Charlotte -310

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    Love the analysis Scal! Good to see you back doing wrestling. Will you be posting the actual plays you end up making?

    Yes! I am making one play comin up. Just finishing out the matches.


    Bayley -210

    vs.

    Charlotte +230

    vs.

    Sasha +470

    vs.

    Nia Jax +1500


    I don't like this match because Sasha HAS to turn on Bayley at some point. If she does, that opens the door for Charlotte or Nia to win.

    Having said that, I think the WWE would be incredibly stupid to put the title back on Charlotte AGAIN. We have seen enough of her with the Title.

    It needs to go on Sasha here or at worst be retained by Bayley. The nightmare scenario is Sasha is eliminated by Bayley leaving Bayley and Flair in the ring and Sasha nails Bayley so Flair can win.

    But I think even that is ridiculously far-fetched. Therefore the best value IMO is FIELD wins (Not Charlotte) at -310 on 5 Dimes


    Prediction: NOT Charlotte -310

     
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    US Title Match

    Jericho +425

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    Owens -675


    This ones pretty easy but the odds are bad to get paid. Jericho is going touring with his band in May in real life. How in the world do you keep the title on a guy who is leaving to play concerts?

    PLUS Owens has to be OWED this title for dropping his World Title to Goldberg in 15 seconds at Fastlane. TOO much here points to Owens.


    Prediction: Owens -675 (swerve is possible here but unlikely)

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    Jericho +425

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    Owens -675


    This ones pretty easy but the odds are bad to get paid. Jericho is going touring with his band in May in real life. How in the world do you keep the title on a guy who is leaving to play concerts?

    PLUS Owens has to be OWED this title for dropping his World Title to Goldberg in 15 seconds at Fastlane. TOO much here points to Owens.


    Prediction: Owens -675 (swerve is possible here but unlikely)

     
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    The pick (and I will count it since it pays -110 and I provided more detailed analysis than 99% of all threads in every forum here):

    PARLAY (pays -110):

    Lesnar -2000 over Goldberg (I'd honestly consider leaving Covers forever if Goldberg won clean and you can hold me to that).

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    AJ Styles  -975 over Shane (and Shane may jump off that roller coaster structure from 10 stories high. I honestly hope he doesn't die).

    +

    Rollins -400 over Triple H (Again, a win for HHH does nothing. He doesn't WRESTLE anymore. Rollins needs revenge to complete this storyline).

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    NOT Charlotte -310 in 4-way Elimination Match (My Least certain pick but again, I can't see how you put the title on Charlotte AGAIN. People are sick of her. End of story).



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    The pick (and I will count it since it pays -110 and I provided more detailed analysis than 99% of all threads in every forum here):

    PARLAY (pays -110):

    Lesnar -2000 over Goldberg (I'd honestly consider leaving Covers forever if Goldberg won clean and you can hold me to that).

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    AJ Styles  -975 over Shane (and Shane may jump off that roller coaster structure from 10 stories high. I honestly hope he doesn't die).

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    Rollins -400 over Triple H (Again, a win for HHH does nothing. He doesn't WRESTLE anymore. Rollins needs revenge to complete this storyline).

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    NOT Charlotte -310 in 4-way Elimination Match (My Least certain pick but again, I can't see how you put the title on Charlotte AGAIN. People are sick of her. End of story).



     
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    Sheesh. Guys where is the discussion?


    This is Wrestlemania. Biggest pro wrestling event there is.

    Don't be like this "severe lack of self-worth, I think my penis is small if I like pro wrestling" posters. And they ALL hang out here. Don't mind them. I will take care of them as I have for a decade.

    This is it. There is money to be made here. 

    Allegedly Taker/Roman is now the last match so the poster who saw that above was correct.

    Money is MONEY. Doesn't matter if you make it off wreslting.
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    Sheesh. Guys where is the discussion?


    This is Wrestlemania. Biggest pro wrestling event there is.

    Don't be like this "severe lack of self-worth, I think my penis is small if I like pro wrestling" posters. And they ALL hang out here. Don't mind them. I will take care of them as I have for a decade.

    This is it. There is money to be made here. 

    Allegedly Taker/Roman is now the last match so the poster who saw that above was correct.

    Money is MONEY. Doesn't matter if you make it off wreslting.
     
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    I'm so perplexed by the line movement on 5dimes in the Wyatt/Orton match. Orton was more than -200, then Bray was over -200, now it's back to Orton as -350. Looks like heavy money has started coming in on Seth too.
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    I'm so perplexed by the line movement on 5dimes in the Wyatt/Orton match. Orton was more than -200, then Bray was over -200, now it's back to Orton as -350. Looks like heavy money has started coming in on Seth too.
     
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    Orton now -900. Guess it's time to throw my $50 on him at +155 on Bovada.
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    Orton now -900. Guess it's time to throw my $50 on him at +155 on Bovada.
     
     
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    Face it scal, you are one of the few grown men who still watch Wrestlemania while wearing your Hulk Hogan underoos.

    Nice to see that you are willing to count this parlay on your record ... lord knows you could use whatever winning bet that you can find.

    Good luck 


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    Face it scal, you are one of the few grown men who still watch Wrestlemania while wearing your Hulk Hogan underoos.

    Nice to see that you are willing to count this parlay on your record ... lord knows you could use whatever winning bet that you can find.

    Good luck 


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