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    BEAR-STERNS-IN-DEEP-TROUB LE.....FED-FINANCING-ARRIVING!!!!!

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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2008 - 2:45 PM ET #26

    wall - they were basing a lot of their short strategies on rumor

    rumors of firms in trouble
    rumors of firms who have margin calls or who need cash

    and then selling some in advance of the firm selling to get cash

    even if its a tiny position of 10-50k shares. imagine having a big asset mgr lean on a stock to raise cash quickly and you're short the position already
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    wall - they were basing a lot of their short strategies on rumor

    rumors of firms in trouble
    rumors of firms who have margin calls or who need cash

    and then selling some in advance of the firm selling to get cash

    even if its a tiny position of 10-50k shares. imagine having a big asset mgr lean on a stock to raise cash quickly and you're short the position already
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2008 - 3:37 PM ET #27

    how do you call your Bear Sterns trader on Monday?
     
    Oh Waiter!!!
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    how do you call your Bear Sterns trader on Monday?
     
    Oh Waiter!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2008 - 3:52 PM ET #28

    This might seem crazy but I think at 30 BSC is worth a stab with a 5% to 10% stop.
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    This might seem crazy but I think at 30 BSC is worth a stab with a 5% to 10% stop.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #29

    9000% gain in a week
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    9000% gain in a week
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2008 - 5:14 PM ET #30

    Funny..

    While in the car driving on the road trip I heard a discussion about Bear puts being bought down to the 35s and 30s earlier this week when the stock was over 50. From closing prices that would be a 10 bagger or so depending on when you bought.

    With numbers that big (55k) someone might be going to the clink for inside info..
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    Funny..

    While in the car driving on the road trip I heard a discussion about Bear puts being bought down to the 35s and 30s earlier this week when the stock was over 50. From closing prices that would be a 10 bagger or so depending on when you bought.

    With numbers that big (55k) someone might be going to the clink for inside info..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2008 - 1:11 PM ET #31


     Wall, that was also pointed out on CNBC.."lucky trade" indeed.

    Not on Bear but from a newsletter, and I wonder the same thing ..anyone got any real solid answer to the question posed?

    As you know, the Federal Reserve has begun to accept private mortgages as collateral for 28-day loans, furthering its policy of expanding allowable collateral that began last August.

    Here's what I want to know: How can borrowing more money against dodgy collateral help these businesses, which are on the verge of bankruptcy precisely because they've borrowed heavily already against these mortgage assets? If anyone can explain to me how allowing Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to borrow still more money (they're already leveraged 28 times and 18 times, respectively) is likely to help their shareholders, please take the time to explain.



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     Wall, that was also pointed out on CNBC.."lucky trade" indeed.

    Not on Bear but from a newsletter, and I wonder the same thing ..anyone got any real solid answer to the question posed?

    As you know, the Federal Reserve has begun to accept private mortgages as collateral for 28-day loans, furthering its policy of expanding allowable collateral that began last August.

    Here's what I want to know: How can borrowing more money against dodgy collateral help these businesses, which are on the verge of bankruptcy precisely because they've borrowed heavily already against these mortgage assets? If anyone can explain to me how allowing Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to borrow still more money (they're already leveraged 28 times and 18 times, respectively) is likely to help their shareholders, please take the time to explain.



     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2008 - 8:16 AM ET #32

    Bear-Sterns-is-being-sold-at-$2.00-a-share.....to-J.P.Morgan!!!!!!Gonna-be-an-interesting-day-on-Wall-Street-today!
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    Bear-Sterns-is-being-sold-at-$2.00-a-share.....to-J.P.Morgan!!!!!!Gonna-be-an-interesting-day-on-Wall-Street-today!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2008 - 9:10 AM ET #33

    30-percent-of-Bear-Sterns-stock-is-owned-by-it's-employees.....!!!!!Financial-stocks-are-going-to-get-hammered-today!
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    30-percent-of-Bear-Sterns-stock-is-owned-by-it's-employees.....!!!!!Financial-stocks-are-going-to-get-hammered-today!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2008 - 9:17 AM ET #34

    momoney - JPM is being bid up

    weird feeling the mkt will end positive today

    i wouldnt be surprised by anything though
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    momoney - JPM is being bid up

    weird feeling the mkt will end positive today

    i wouldnt be surprised by anything though
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2008 - 9:21 AM ET #35

    Why-wouldn't-Warren-Buffett-come-in-and-buy-Bear-Sterns....236-million-is-peanuts-to-him?
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    Why-wouldn't-Warren-Buffett-come-in-and-buy-Bear-Sterns....236-million-is-peanuts-to-him?
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2008 - 12:59 PM ET #36

    We believe JPMorgan Chase could ultimately be the most vulnerable.

    And we believe this may help explain why JPMorgan Chase was the Wall Street firm that emerged as a participant in the Bear Stearns rescue on Friday.

    But you don't have to take our word for it. Nor do you have to look very far to validate our view. All you have to do is ...

    • Click on this link to pull up the latest derivatives report by the U.S. Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) ...

    • Scroll down (about 24 pages) to Table 1, "Notional Amount of Derivatives Contracts" ...

    • Take one look at who's at the top of that chart — JPMorgan Chase — and see for yourself the unimaginably large quantities of derivatives it is trading.
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    We believe JPMorgan Chase could ultimately be the most vulnerable.

    And we believe this may help explain why JPMorgan Chase was the Wall Street firm that emerged as a participant in the Bear Stearns rescue on Friday.

    But you don't have to take our word for it. Nor do you have to look very far to validate our view. All you have to do is ...

    • Click on this link to pull up the latest derivatives report by the U.S. Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) ...

    • Scroll down (about 24 pages) to Table 1, "Notional Amount of Derivatives Contracts" ...

    • Take one look at who's at the top of that chart — JPMorgan Chase — and see for yourself the unimaginably large quantities of derivatives it is trading.
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