The market doesn't need to be propped up anymore. I was getting a little worried with my Faz/Tza positions. I'm back to even on Faz and up $1 on Tza. I think I will try and get out at 21/19 in the next few weeks.
What's the lowest level for the dow you guys expect this year?
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The market doesn't need to be propped up anymore. I was getting a little worried with my Faz/Tza positions. I'm back to even on Faz and up $1 on Tza. I think I will try and get out at 21/19 in the next few weeks.
What's the lowest level for the dow you guys expect this year?
I dont think you can use past valuations for what our present currently is.
Never in the history of this country has the FED manipulated the markets through bond purchases AND setting interest rates this low.
The valuations currently placed on the market are reflective of the interest rate environment, which is manipulated and phony.
I think the market without the FED, even now would be 50-75% lower than it is..shocking numbers but I think it would be quite severe.
Without the FED buying all our debt, rates would probably be closer to the rest of the world with their treasury levels..likely the 10 yr would be in the 5% range, corporate rates higher than this..which means borrowing costs would be higher and liquidity gone. With a 5-6% rate on the 10 yr, valuations are toast..the market would probably be in the 7k range.
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Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:
Based on math and valuations.
I dont think you can use past valuations for what our present currently is.
Never in the history of this country has the FED manipulated the markets through bond purchases AND setting interest rates this low.
The valuations currently placed on the market are reflective of the interest rate environment, which is manipulated and phony.
I think the market without the FED, even now would be 50-75% lower than it is..shocking numbers but I think it would be quite severe.
Without the FED buying all our debt, rates would probably be closer to the rest of the world with their treasury levels..likely the 10 yr would be in the 5% range, corporate rates higher than this..which means borrowing costs would be higher and liquidity gone. With a 5-6% rate on the 10 yr, valuations are toast..the market would probably be in the 7k range.
U people kill me with the lopsided evaluation. . Be serious, open ya dam eyes. I am a republican but I value that I am a very intelligent person and can see what is happening around me and not just neing biest.. Any fool can see that my right wing jack *** got us here.. we wnt from one of the most lucrative times in US HISTORY TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEFICITS EVER... THANKS RIGHT WING IDIOTS..
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U people kill me with the lopsided evaluation. . Be serious, open ya dam eyes. I am a republican but I value that I am a very intelligent person and can see what is happening around me and not just neing biest.. Any fool can see that my right wing jack *** got us here.. we wnt from one of the most lucrative times in US HISTORY TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEFICITS EVER... THANKS RIGHT WING IDIOTS..
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