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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2010 - 3:14 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    wow you're doing a thesis for a psych class? Very interesting... let me know how that goes

    Yeah I know, I thought it would be interesting.  A lot of different arguments and theoretical things to think about/compare to when considering legalizing gambling in the states.  

    While we're talking about legalization, pot should also be legalized.
    It'd easily become America's new cash crop - and end a lot of wasteful spending towards something more productive.  A lot safer than alcohol.

    Let you know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    wow you're doing a thesis for a psych class? Very interesting... let me know how that goes

    Yeah I know, I thought it would be interesting.  A lot of different arguments and theoretical things to think about/compare to when considering legalizing gambling in the states.  

    While we're talking about legalization, pot should also be legalized.
    It'd easily become America's new cash crop - and end a lot of wasteful spending towards something more productive.  A lot safer than alcohol.

    Let you know how it goes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2010 - 11:20 PM ET #27

    Rutgers turned down the offer to grow marijuana lol
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    Rutgers turned down the offer to grow marijuana lol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2010 - 12:31 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    its just a matter of time until sports wagering is legalized.. i believe NJ will have online betting within a year

    What will happen is you will be able to go to AC and put a wager in.  Those casino's will offer you an online account so you can place your wager.  AC and the state will make this happen within the next 2 years because of all the revenue the state will receive and how bad the economy is.  You won't see gambling outfits all over the state though, it will be in AC only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    its just a matter of time until sports wagering is legalized.. i believe NJ will have online betting within a year

    What will happen is you will be able to go to AC and put a wager in.  Those casino's will offer you an online account so you can place your wager.  AC and the state will make this happen within the next 2 years because of all the revenue the state will receive and how bad the economy is.  You won't see gambling outfits all over the state though, it will be in AC only.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2010 - 4:45 PM ET #29

    I'm going to publish an excerpt from my paper in my blog in a few weeks.  I'll keep you updated.
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    I'm going to publish an excerpt from my paper in my blog in a few weeks.  I'll keep you updated.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 2:10 AM ET #31

    I guess that's one of only four reasons I'm glad to be back in Mexico
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    I guess that's one of only four reasons I'm glad to be back in Mexico
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 10:55 PM ET #32

    Okay so I'm almost done with my paper and I'm come across some really good info for you guys.  I can't exactly share it with everyone here at Covers because of plagarism concerns.  But I can definitely say this with confidence: No way the US Government can continue to pursue prohibition in an environment where it is impossible to enforce.  It will ultimately become legalized based on history.

    There have been waves of gambling in America - in fact colleges like Harvard, W&M, Yale and Columbia (among others) would have never been started if it weren't for gambling.  Also towns like Tunica, Davenport (Quad Cities), Las Vegas have economies that thrive on gambling economies which prop those towns up and put plenty of tax dollars in the local governments there to help pay for things like roads, schools, and medical/fire/police facilities.  The fact is places like this are going to have to go along with technology.

    The hard fact is somewhere between $10-$100's of billions of dollars a year are wagered by US citizens in foreign books.  We are just a small part of the population (sports bettors).  Over 90% of an online casino handle is from games like slots and tables (just like the real casinos).  This is money that SHOULD be going into the US economy, not Costa Rica or Antigua.

    Also, people need to understand that internet gambling is giving way for pathological gambling and compulsive gambling disorder to reach new levels.  Nobody ever has a problem when they are doing well, but when they are losing it when it seems to become a problem.  Truth is there are many people out there who have no gambling education (education that should be taught in schools like drugs and sex), and continuously throw money down the drain putting them far in debt.  Studies done of Canadian internet gamblers also show since it is a solitary activities (unlike other forms of gambling) makes it WAY more dangerous.  Coincidentally, in that same Canadian study done out of Quebec last month, shows online gamblers are 3x more likely to be pot smokers than people who gamble at the casino live.  

    Interesting correlation - still trying to make sense of that one.

    The main thing is that the longer is stays illegal, the more money the US is potentially missing out on.  While many recent pieces of federal legislation has failed to legalize gambling over the internet, local governments are starting to take steps in their own hands (much like you are seeing with the pro-pot movement).  Just a matter of time - not if.

    Regulation and fairness of the environment will drive up competition leading for a more enjoyable and less dangerous gambling experience.  Wager limits, time someone can spend gambling, and client screening (much like the system ebay incoporates) will ultimately improve gambling over the internet where there won't be much concern in it.

    After all - I think all US players would probably agree with this:  They would feel much more confident putting their money in a US book (where they also know if they lose the money isn't going overseas) and could probably have a much more well devised system for withdrawls/deposits.  Not to mention a US book would be under US laws which would keep books from engaging in any kind of shady business this side of the border.
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    Okay so I'm almost done with my paper and I'm come across some really good info for you guys.  I can't exactly share it with everyone here at Covers because of plagarism concerns.  But I can definitely say this with confidence: No way the US Government can continue to pursue prohibition in an environment where it is impossible to enforce.  It will ultimately become legalized based on history.

    There have been waves of gambling in America - in fact colleges like Harvard, W&M, Yale and Columbia (among others) would have never been started if it weren't for gambling.  Also towns like Tunica, Davenport (Quad Cities), Las Vegas have economies that thrive on gambling economies which prop those towns up and put plenty of tax dollars in the local governments there to help pay for things like roads, schools, and medical/fire/police facilities.  The fact is places like this are going to have to go along with technology.

    The hard fact is somewhere between $10-$100's of billions of dollars a year are wagered by US citizens in foreign books.  We are just a small part of the population (sports bettors).  Over 90% of an online casino handle is from games like slots and tables (just like the real casinos).  This is money that SHOULD be going into the US economy, not Costa Rica or Antigua.

    Also, people need to understand that internet gambling is giving way for pathological gambling and compulsive gambling disorder to reach new levels.  Nobody ever has a problem when they are doing well, but when they are losing it when it seems to become a problem.  Truth is there are many people out there who have no gambling education (education that should be taught in schools like drugs and sex), and continuously throw money down the drain putting them far in debt.  Studies done of Canadian internet gamblers also show since it is a solitary activities (unlike other forms of gambling) makes it WAY more dangerous.  Coincidentally, in that same Canadian study done out of Quebec last month, shows online gamblers are 3x more likely to be pot smokers than people who gamble at the casino live.  

    Interesting correlation - still trying to make sense of that one.

    The main thing is that the longer is stays illegal, the more money the US is potentially missing out on.  While many recent pieces of federal legislation has failed to legalize gambling over the internet, local governments are starting to take steps in their own hands (much like you are seeing with the pro-pot movement).  Just a matter of time - not if.

    Regulation and fairness of the environment will drive up competition leading for a more enjoyable and less dangerous gambling experience.  Wager limits, time someone can spend gambling, and client screening (much like the system ebay incoporates) will ultimately improve gambling over the internet where there won't be much concern in it.

    After all - I think all US players would probably agree with this:  They would feel much more confident putting their money in a US book (where they also know if they lose the money isn't going overseas) and could probably have a much more well devised system for withdrawls/deposits.  Not to mention a US book would be under US laws which would keep books from engaging in any kind of shady business this side of the border.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 11:41 AM ET #33

    Local bookies.
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    Local bookies.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 5:14 PM ET #34

    It doesn't make a difference, because most that want to already have a way to do it.  I think it stupid because thats like selling cigerettes and U.S except tax off it.  It wouldn't be striaght if drinking liquor is tax, and gambling is left unclaim.  I think smoking, drinking, gambling, sex etc... business should all be tax because it all exist already.  How many billions go offshore is where all is already tax.  It is all compeletely illeagal or all legal, because all these things are one and the same.
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    It doesn't make a difference, because most that want to already have a way to do it.  I think it stupid because thats like selling cigerettes and U.S except tax off it.  It wouldn't be striaght if drinking liquor is tax, and gambling is left unclaim.  I think smoking, drinking, gambling, sex etc... business should all be tax because it all exist already.  How many billions go offshore is where all is already tax.  It is all compeletely illeagal or all legal, because all these things are one and the same.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 11:38 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by PhuQuangLe111:

    It doesn't make a difference, because most that want to already have a way to do it.  I think it stupid because thats like selling cigerettes and U.S except tax off it.  It wouldn't be striaght if drinking liquor is tax, and gambling is left unclaim.  I think smoking, drinking, gambling, sex etc... business should all be tax because it all exist already.  How many billions go offshore is where all is already tax.  It is all compeletely illeagal or all legal, because all these things are one and the same.


     
    True that most who want to gamble can already BUT there is a lot of hassle with online books are some are very shady. I would much rather be able to get my winnings instantly like in Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhuQuangLe111:

    It doesn't make a difference, because most that want to already have a way to do it.  I think it stupid because thats like selling cigerettes and U.S except tax off it.  It wouldn't be striaght if drinking liquor is tax, and gambling is left unclaim.  I think smoking, drinking, gambling, sex etc... business should all be tax because it all exist already.  How many billions go offshore is where all is already tax.  It is all compeletely illeagal or all legal, because all these things are one and the same.


     
    True that most who want to gamble can already BUT there is a lot of hassle with online books are some are very shady. I would much rather be able to get my winnings instantly like in Vegas.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2010 - 1:07 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:



     
    True that most who want to gamble can already BUT there is a lot of hassle with online books are some are very shady. I would much rather be able to get my winnings instantly like in Vegas.

    Instantaneous Gratification.  

    We all love it even if we have to suffer a few consequences for it.  

    Sex-Money=Power is what most of us have drilled in our heads from a young age.  


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    True that most who want to gamble can already BUT there is a lot of hassle with online books are some are very shady. I would much rather be able to get my winnings instantly like in Vegas.

    Instantaneous Gratification.  

    We all love it even if we have to suffer a few consequences for it.  

    Sex-Money=Power is what most of us have drilled in our heads from a young age.  


     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2010 - 9:47 AM ET #37

    It seems we always are given false hope that online gambling will be legalized only to be let down.  I do still dream that one day sports wagering will become legal here in the US!
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    It seems we always are given false hope that online gambling will be legalized only to be let down.  I do still dream that one day sports wagering will become legal here in the US!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2011 - 3:13 AM ET #39

    if its legal would we have to pay for tax?
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    if its legal would we have to pay for tax?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 12:12 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaHoldem2:



    I don't think they are concerned about the tax revenue from Joe Gambler who is lucky enough to make $1,000 in a year (few and far between) . . . what the government would want is the tax windfall from the books who take all of Joe Gamblers money . . . so all that revenue gets taxed at 35% for the fed . . . that is what they want!

    throw in online poker and it is a decent chunk of change.



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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaHoldem2:



    I don't think they are concerned about the tax revenue from Joe Gambler who is lucky enough to make $1,000 in a year (few and far between) . . . what the government would want is the tax windfall from the books who take all of Joe Gamblers money . . . so all that revenue gets taxed at 35% for the fed . . . that is what they want!

    throw in online poker and it is a decent chunk of change.



     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 8:03 PM ET #41

    IF they legalized sports betting in THE USA they would all benefit greatly

    go read this website i found

    https://legalbettinginusa.blogspot.com 

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    IF they legalized sports betting in THE USA they would all benefit greatly

    go read this website i found

    https://legalbettinginusa.blogspot.com 

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