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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2013 - 8:38 AM ET #26

    Just returned from another Vegas trip and a stay at The Orleans.  There were some very nice looking cocktail servers, including a couple that were simply gorgeous.  The server that got my diet coke at 6:30 a.m. Friday morning may have been in her 30s, but was simply beautiful.  Even at that hour, it was clear she'd paid attention to her hair and make-up.

    Orleans talent was just a half notch below that of the Palms.  Several stunners pushing booze there, even at 10 a.m. 
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    Just returned from another Vegas trip and a stay at The Orleans.  There were some very nice looking cocktail servers, including a couple that were simply gorgeous.  The server that got my diet coke at 6:30 a.m. Friday morning may have been in her 30s, but was simply beautiful.  Even at that hour, it was clear she'd paid attention to her hair and make-up.

    Orleans talent was just a half notch below that of the Palms.  Several stunners pushing booze there, even at 10 a.m. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2013 - 1:58 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by bill702:

    Not inflation. It's the union that won't let them get fired. People age.

    I have to agree with bill702. casinos the Mrs and I go to that are non-union have VERY attractive young women doing cocktails. the "established" (read "old') with culinary contracts have women that have been there since the days of the Rat Pack. even with the dollar being a LOT less than 10 or 20 years ago, cocktails is STILL one of the better casino jobs and the old union shop biddies guard theirs like pitbulls.

    that is NOT to bash unions, that is just the way it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill702:

    Not inflation. It's the union that won't let them get fired. People age.

    I have to agree with bill702. casinos the Mrs and I go to that are non-union have VERY attractive young women doing cocktails. the "established" (read "old') with culinary contracts have women that have been there since the days of the Rat Pack. even with the dollar being a LOT less than 10 or 20 years ago, cocktails is STILL one of the better casino jobs and the old union shop biddies guard theirs like pitbulls.

    that is NOT to bash unions, that is just the way it is

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2013 - 3:11 PM ET #28

    1. cocktail waitress is a good place for casino execs to place relatives as it's a decent paying gig with usually good benefits, lots of nepotism, its also where the old stripper/working girls go to pasture... as it might not pay as much as hooking or stripping did but the years caught up to em & they can live off it plus there is always hope some winner will "save them" never quit lol

    2. The good looking ones don't last long cause their goal is to get knocked up or courted by a celeb, athlete, or high roller who will gladly become a sugar daddy or child support/alimony income for them, this town may be built on losers but there are plenty of "winners" with large bank accounts around every casion every day like Dillinger said you go where the money is

    3.  it's the bottom rung for a good looking woman, they will quickly get recruited to host or bottle girl which is just code for prostitute if any ladies are reading i do apologize, there are exceptions to every rule so if the shoe dont fit dont lace it up but in my experience almost EVERY bottle girl or host has a price & its usually around 300 an hour

    there are plenty of good looking ones around but again they don't last long, beauty has a short shelf life & they have to maximize it, for every 10 cheapskate losers tipping a buck complaining about drink tickets, there's one tipping 10 or willing to pay a cell phone bill, car note, rent, etc....& that's where their attention goes it's not personal it business

    If your a 9 or 10 in this town $500-$1000 a day is EASY to get, the average to below average looking women gotta work hard for their money, it may not be fair but its how the world works even if the below or average women offer better service which they usually do lol
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    1. cocktail waitress is a good place for casino execs to place relatives as it's a decent paying gig with usually good benefits, lots of nepotism, its also where the old stripper/working girls go to pasture... as it might not pay as much as hooking or stripping did but the years caught up to em & they can live off it plus there is always hope some winner will "save them" never quit lol

    2. The good looking ones don't last long cause their goal is to get knocked up or courted by a celeb, athlete, or high roller who will gladly become a sugar daddy or child support/alimony income for them, this town may be built on losers but there are plenty of "winners" with large bank accounts around every casion every day like Dillinger said you go where the money is

    3.  it's the bottom rung for a good looking woman, they will quickly get recruited to host or bottle girl which is just code for prostitute if any ladies are reading i do apologize, there are exceptions to every rule so if the shoe dont fit dont lace it up but in my experience almost EVERY bottle girl or host has a price & its usually around 300 an hour

    there are plenty of good looking ones around but again they don't last long, beauty has a short shelf life & they have to maximize it, for every 10 cheapskate losers tipping a buck complaining about drink tickets, there's one tipping 10 or willing to pay a cell phone bill, car note, rent, etc....& that's where their attention goes it's not personal it business

    If your a 9 or 10 in this town $500-$1000 a day is EASY to get, the average to below average looking women gotta work hard for their money, it may not be fair but its how the world works even if the below or average women offer better service which they usually do lol
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2013 - 5:21 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by TNvegas:

    1. cocktail waitress is a good place for casino execs to place relatives as it's a decent paying gig with usually good benefits, lots of nepotism, its also where the old stripper/working girls go to pasture... as it might not pay as much as hooking or stripping did but the years caught up to em & they can live off it plus there is always hope some winner will "save them" never quit lol

    2. The good looking ones don't last long cause their goal is to get knocked up or courted by a celeb, athlete, or high roller who will gladly become a sugar daddy or child support/alimony income for them, this town may be built on losers but there are plenty of "winners" with large bank accounts around every casion every day like Dillinger said you go where the money is

    3.  it's the bottom rung for a good looking woman, they will quickly get recruited to host or bottle girl which is just code for prostitute if any ladies are reading i do apologize, there are exceptions to every rule so if the shoe dont fit dont lace it up but in my experience almost EVERY bottle girl or host has a price & its usually around 300 an hour

    there are plenty of good looking ones around but again they don't last long, beauty has a short shelf life & they have to maximize it, for every 10 cheapskate losers tipping a buck complaining about drink tickets, there's one tipping 10 or willing to pay a cell phone bill, car note, rent, etc....& that's where their attention goes it's not personal it business

    If your a 9 or 10 in this town $500-$1000 a day is EASY to get, the average to below average looking women gotta work hard for their money, it may not be fair but its how the world works even if the below or average women offer better service which they usually do lol

    About ten years ago there was an influx of Russian Coctail servers at the Harrahs AC..Most notable at the revamped center bar that featured chilled vodka and the bar itself had ice pockets the bartender would shave etc..Just another gimmick there that went by the wayside like attempted twirl bartending.Both Fails.

    But the girls were gorgeous .drop dead gorgeous and spoke serious English with serious accent..darn me..

    They are long gone now..Probably off to better income or thier visas ran out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNvegas:

    1. cocktail waitress is a good place for casino execs to place relatives as it's a decent paying gig with usually good benefits, lots of nepotism, its also where the old stripper/working girls go to pasture... as it might not pay as much as hooking or stripping did but the years caught up to em & they can live off it plus there is always hope some winner will "save them" never quit lol

    2. The good looking ones don't last long cause their goal is to get knocked up or courted by a celeb, athlete, or high roller who will gladly become a sugar daddy or child support/alimony income for them, this town may be built on losers but there are plenty of "winners" with large bank accounts around every casion every day like Dillinger said you go where the money is

    3.  it's the bottom rung for a good looking woman, they will quickly get recruited to host or bottle girl which is just code for prostitute if any ladies are reading i do apologize, there are exceptions to every rule so if the shoe dont fit dont lace it up but in my experience almost EVERY bottle girl or host has a price & its usually around 300 an hour

    there are plenty of good looking ones around but again they don't last long, beauty has a short shelf life & they have to maximize it, for every 10 cheapskate losers tipping a buck complaining about drink tickets, there's one tipping 10 or willing to pay a cell phone bill, car note, rent, etc....& that's where their attention goes it's not personal it business

    If your a 9 or 10 in this town $500-$1000 a day is EASY to get, the average to below average looking women gotta work hard for their money, it may not be fair but its how the world works even if the below or average women offer better service which they usually do lol

    About ten years ago there was an influx of Russian Coctail servers at the Harrahs AC..Most notable at the revamped center bar that featured chilled vodka and the bar itself had ice pockets the bartender would shave etc..Just another gimmick there that went by the wayside like attempted twirl bartending.Both Fails.

    But the girls were gorgeous .drop dead gorgeous and spoke serious English with serious accent..darn me..

    They are long gone now..Probably off to better income or thier visas ran out...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 11:24 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by TNvegas:

    1. cocktail waitress is a good place for casino execs to place relatives as it's a decent paying gig with usually good benefits, lots of nepotism, its also where the old stripper/working girls go to pasture... as it might not pay as much as hooking or stripping did but the years caught up to em & they can live off it plus there is always hope some winner will "save them" never quit lol

    2. The good looking ones don't last long cause their goal is to get knocked up or courted by a celeb, athlete, or high roller who will gladly become a sugar daddy or child support/alimony income for them, this town may be built on losers but there are plenty of "winners" with large bank accounts around every casion every day like Dillinger said you go where the money is

    3.  it's the bottom rung for a good looking woman, they will quickly get recruited to host or bottle girl which is just code for prostitute if any ladies are reading i do apologize, there are exceptions to every rule so if the shoe dont fit dont lace it up but in my experience almost EVERY bottle girl or host has a price & its usually around 300 an hour

    there are plenty of good looking ones around but again they don't last long, beauty has a short shelf life & they have to maximize it, for every 10 cheapskate losers tipping a buck complaining about drink tickets, there's one tipping 10 or willing to pay a cell phone bill, car note, rent, etc....& that's where their attention goes it's not personal it business

    If your a 9 or 10 in this town $500-$1000 a day is EASY to get, the average to below average looking women gotta work hard for their money, it may not be fair but its how the world works even if the below or average women offer better service which they usually do lol


    This This and This

    I think half the "hot" female staff at M have borne children over the past several years. Some come back, probably for the petty cash, some move on. And some get married to the sire, some just collect the child support.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TNvegas:

    1. cocktail waitress is a good place for casino execs to place relatives as it's a decent paying gig with usually good benefits, lots of nepotism, its also where the old stripper/working girls go to pasture... as it might not pay as much as hooking or stripping did but the years caught up to em & they can live off it plus there is always hope some winner will "save them" never quit lol

    2. The good looking ones don't last long cause their goal is to get knocked up or courted by a celeb, athlete, or high roller who will gladly become a sugar daddy or child support/alimony income for them, this town may be built on losers but there are plenty of "winners" with large bank accounts around every casion every day like Dillinger said you go where the money is

    3.  it's the bottom rung for a good looking woman, they will quickly get recruited to host or bottle girl which is just code for prostitute if any ladies are reading i do apologize, there are exceptions to every rule so if the shoe dont fit dont lace it up but in my experience almost EVERY bottle girl or host has a price & its usually around 300 an hour

    there are plenty of good looking ones around but again they don't last long, beauty has a short shelf life & they have to maximize it, for every 10 cheapskate losers tipping a buck complaining about drink tickets, there's one tipping 10 or willing to pay a cell phone bill, car note, rent, etc....& that's where their attention goes it's not personal it business

    If your a 9 or 10 in this town $500-$1000 a day is EASY to get, the average to below average looking women gotta work hard for their money, it may not be fair but its how the world works even if the below or average women offer better service which they usually do lol


    This This and This

    I think half the "hot" female staff at M have borne children over the past several years. Some come back, probably for the petty cash, some move on. And some get married to the sire, some just collect the child support.


     
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    If you're only referring to the cocktail waitresses patrolling the casino floor yelling COCKTAIL, you're right. But at any good pool or night club the cocktail waitresses are making 1-3K a day/night depending on the club.

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    If you're only referring to the cocktail waitresses patrolling the casino floor yelling COCKTAIL, you're right. But at any good pool or night club the cocktail waitresses are making 1-3K a day/night depending on the club.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CovasBrotha:

    If you're only referring to the cocktail waitresses patrolling the casino floor yelling COCKTAIL, you're right. But at any good pool or night club the cocktail waitresses are making 1-3K a day/night depending on the club.

    Yes, as I say in the very first post:  "These days, those dollars do not go as far.  The real good looking girls have moved on to more well paying jobs such as Club or pool hostesses.  Now the cocktail waitresses are usually older and much more plain looking."
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    Quote Originally Posted by CovasBrotha:

    If you're only referring to the cocktail waitresses patrolling the casino floor yelling COCKTAIL, you're right. But at any good pool or night club the cocktail waitresses are making 1-3K a day/night depending on the club.

    Yes, as I say in the very first post:  "These days, those dollars do not go as far.  The real good looking girls have moved on to more well paying jobs such as Club or pool hostesses.  Now the cocktail waitresses are usually older and much more plain looking."
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Even in the old days, the cocktail talent in the grindhouses like the Sahara or ElRanchero use to "work" after their shift and they had to have a minimum of appeal. Today it's strictly 9-5 and they only hustle tips.Better looking talent have gone to the yellow pages or strip porn handouts as escorts.

    If by work you mean they were getting on their knees and smoking some poles that is true, as when I worked at the old IP when the women were attractive and wore the "suzie wong" outfits there were a few of the girls who had a price and YES I did get to have some fun with them , for $$$ of course but it saved the trip to Pahrump and I got to "boink" waitresses in their uni's

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Even in the old days, the cocktail talent in the grindhouses like the Sahara or ElRanchero use to "work" after their shift and they had to have a minimum of appeal. Today it's strictly 9-5 and they only hustle tips.Better looking talent have gone to the yellow pages or strip porn handouts as escorts.

    If by work you mean they were getting on their knees and smoking some poles that is true, as when I worked at the old IP when the women were attractive and wore the "suzie wong" outfits there were a few of the girls who had a price and YES I did get to have some fun with them , for $$$ of course but it saved the trip to Pahrump and I got to "boink" waitresses in their uni's

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2014 - 2:17 PM ET #36

    Yeah Yav, the old IP and the food wasn't bad. I lived in LV almost 10years and the most beautiful babe I saw not working the stripclubs was a cocktail at El Rancho.I was playing poker and when she would come over everything stopped,stopped!!! Dealers stopped dealing,players stopped betting and everyone just gapped at this smokehouse. I'd bet she was "working" but she would clean up on tips. Of course the Rancho is no more..
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    Yeah Yav, the old IP and the food wasn't bad. I lived in LV almost 10years and the most beautiful babe I saw not working the stripclubs was a cocktail at El Rancho.I was playing poker and when she would come over everything stopped,stopped!!! Dealers stopped dealing,players stopped betting and everyone just gapped at this smokehouse. I'd bet she was "working" but she would clean up on tips. Of course the Rancho is no more..
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2014 - 8:20 PM ET #37

    Holy fuc k, I just got back from a few days in Vegas and I did not see one cocktail waitress under the age of 35 and 95% of them had to be over 40. Heck, there were even 50 year old men serving drinks at the WSOP at the Rio.  Definitely not worth the money any more for the young attractive girls.  They moved on to working the pools and night clubs.  It will be senior citizens doing it 15 years from now when people are still tipping $1 per drink, the same standard it has been over the last 20 years despite inflation. 
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    Holy fuc k, I just got back from a few days in Vegas and I did not see one cocktail waitress under the age of 35 and 95% of them had to be over 40. Heck, there were even 50 year old men serving drinks at the WSOP at the Rio.  Definitely not worth the money any more for the young attractive girls.  They moved on to working the pools and night clubs.  It will be senior citizens doing it 15 years from now when people are still tipping $1 per drink, the same standard it has been over the last 20 years despite inflation. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2014 - 8:42 AM ET #38

    I have recently stumbled on some forum thread concerned with 'natural blondes disappearing' and now there is another one complaining about waitresses getting uglier  where is the world going?  time to panic!!!
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    I have recently stumbled on some forum thread concerned with 'natural blondes disappearing' and now there is another one complaining about waitresses getting uglier  where is the world going?  time to panic!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2014 - 2:12 PM ET #39

    gold coast they are freaky deaky fine
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2014 - 6:21 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Mansruin:

    Bling,  couldn't agree more.  Out of Connecticut,  AC, and LV,  The Borgata has the BEST looking waitresses in the entire industry,  by far.  Last couple times in the craps pit at Caesars in LV,  the waitresses had knee braces on and the avg age was 55,  no bullshitting....
    the maids look better than the cocktail waitress at Caesars, most of them have been their for 20 years, hired when they looked like showgirls, unfortunately time caught up with them; being served a cocktail at the craps table by a woman resembling your grandmother has no value to the LV glitter.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansruin:

    Bling,  couldn't agree more.  Out of Connecticut,  AC, and LV,  The Borgata has the BEST looking waitresses in the entire industry,  by far.  Last couple times in the craps pit at Caesars in LV,  the waitresses had knee braces on and the avg age was 55,  no bullshitting....
    the maids look better than the cocktail waitress at Caesars, most of them have been their for 20 years, hired when they looked like showgirls, unfortunately time caught up with them; being served a cocktail at the craps table by a woman resembling your grandmother has no value to the LV glitter.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2014 - 2:37 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    I've been to pretty much every casino, and club for that matter.  Finding a hot cocktail waitress is like trying to find a white elephant.  Few and far between.  10 years ago, they were all over the place.  Tips are still a dollar, and the money these girls make is exactly the same as it was 10 years ago, yet inflation has risen.  They money, even though the same, does not go as far as it did before.  35 - 40 drinks an hour?  I doubt it, maybe on a very busy shift and only then if all the customers are confined to a tight space.  But when you factor ordering, making the drinks, dropping them off, and the walking distances involved, the average numbers probably come to much less than that. 

    Also, it is nowhere as glamorous of a job as it was back in the day.  Those jobs have moved on to working the big clubs or the hot pool scenes.  Those things really didn't exist 15 years ago, meaning there was less places for employment for the really hot young girls (except strip clubs).  Now they have many places and jobs to work, many of which are much more attractive and higher paying than being a cocktail waitress.

    Don't you think it's combination of both? It's not like their jobs provide them with any training/preparation for other careers out there. A lot of them aren't going to leave so there are less openings as a result.

    I am not sure Union plays a big part. Wouldn't it be against federal law if the person is fired for her age/looks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    I've been to pretty much every casino, and club for that matter.  Finding a hot cocktail waitress is like trying to find a white elephant.  Few and far between.  10 years ago, they were all over the place.  Tips are still a dollar, and the money these girls make is exactly the same as it was 10 years ago, yet inflation has risen.  They money, even though the same, does not go as far as it did before.  35 - 40 drinks an hour?  I doubt it, maybe on a very busy shift and only then if all the customers are confined to a tight space.  But when you factor ordering, making the drinks, dropping them off, and the walking distances involved, the average numbers probably come to much less than that. 

    Also, it is nowhere as glamorous of a job as it was back in the day.  Those jobs have moved on to working the big clubs or the hot pool scenes.  Those things really didn't exist 15 years ago, meaning there was less places for employment for the really hot young girls (except strip clubs).  Now they have many places and jobs to work, many of which are much more attractive and higher paying than being a cocktail waitress.

    Don't you think it's combination of both? It's not like their jobs provide them with any training/preparation for other careers out there. A lot of them aren't going to leave so there are less openings as a result.

    I am not sure Union plays a big part. Wouldn't it be against federal law if the person is fired for her age/looks?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2014 - 5:00 PM ET #42

    They don't get any better than at the Orleans especially in the Poker Room and especially Jill if she still works there. 
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2014 - 1:09 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Holy fuc k, I just got back from a few days in Vegas and I did not see one cocktail waitress under the age of 35 and 95% of them had to be over 40. Heck, there were even 50 year old men serving drinks at the WSOP at the Rio.  Definitely not worth the money any more for the young attractive girls.  They moved on to working the pools and night clubs.  It will be senior citizens doing it 15 years from now when people are still tipping $1 per drink, the same standard it has been over the last 20 years despite inflation. 
    Dude, go downtown where they're working for yo' dollah. Some fine ones, because they also rotate to deal blackjack, and then some of the casinos (like the Golden Gate) have "stripper poles" in the middle if the card/craps/roulette area where they get up and dance! In bikini-style outfits! For FREE! Right in front of you! Outside on Fremont, too.... But beware, there's also cut, bodybuilding,  G-String wearing Paul Stanley from KISS, or a "Cop", or "Elvis" wanting to take a picture with you, so you gotta take the good with the bad.....
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    Holy fuc k, I just got back from a few days in Vegas and I did not see one cocktail waitress under the age of 35 and 95% of them had to be over 40. Heck, there were even 50 year old men serving drinks at the WSOP at the Rio.  Definitely not worth the money any more for the young attractive girls.  They moved on to working the pools and night clubs.  It will be senior citizens doing it 15 years from now when people are still tipping $1 per drink, the same standard it has been over the last 20 years despite inflation. 
    Dude, go downtown where they're working for yo' dollah. Some fine ones, because they also rotate to deal blackjack, and then some of the casinos (like the Golden Gate) have "stripper poles" in the middle if the card/craps/roulette area where they get up and dance! In bikini-style outfits! For FREE! Right in front of you! Outside on Fremont, too.... But beware, there's also cut, bodybuilding,  G-String wearing Paul Stanley from KISS, or a "Cop", or "Elvis" wanting to take a picture with you, so you gotta take the good with the bad.....
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