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    Ferrari29
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2016 - 3:22 PM ET #1

    Since we have a little time between the events I figured I'd start a new thread to post about that accident at birth or some saw it as UFC 195!!!!!!!!!!

    Fights 3-9(+16.50)
    O/U 4-3(+2.05)
    First Fight Dog or FFD from now on 0-1(-1.00)

    Now before I get to the awful judging or poor refreeing, let's see how bad I messed this up, lol. Let's just start with the fights that didn't have questions around them, from the top so to speak.
    Stripe touches Andre's chin, pretty simple from their.
    Ortega probably down 2-0 battles back and from left field or where Whitebelt sits maybe, lol shows off that awesome BJJ.
    Sims WTFRENCH are you doing????????? Can't believe his fighter IQ is lower than Trujillo but it is.
    Dober/Hot Sauce even after two get in a 50/50 position, Dober wins the 50/50 and the fight, missed that one, lol.
    Dusty the Diamond, great job!!!!!!!!!! Thought Duffy didn't jump him when he tagged him in the first and it cost him , badly!!!!!!!!!!
    Westcott really did a number on Garcia eh?????? Which brings me to what a SHYTTY JOB with a few of these REFS!!!!!!!!!


    Westcott fight, how many times does a guy have to smoke a guy upside the head or a Ref ask three times to defend yourself????????? Try after two times maybe and stop it.
    Example 2) Kish/Ansaroff fight. So the dreaded eye poke by Kish and let's have the doctor fool with her eye, then say she's ok. But instead of giving her a few minutes to get vision back, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO let's start the fight inside of 30 seconds, what was the rush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Example 3) Now mind you Covers peeps I had McDonald as my big play BUT hold the phone, did anybody actually see what he did????????? Hooked the fence with his toes to gain position and apply a choke!!!!!!!!!!!! That is not allowed I thought????????? Just so you guys know on this alone I'm not a homer when I get to my last point THE JUDGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As UFC gamblers, judging has always been a thorn in are side, heck ask MISTER219 what he thinks of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I will post in Walshy's thread about the Lawler/Condit judging in a few, I'd rather type about a few other fights that were very iffy at best.
    Example 1) Tumenov/Larkin, a good fight could have gone either BUT when a guy outstrikes said person and does more damage how does he lose???????? Ring control, center of the octagon BS, yeah whatever!!!!!!!!!! Tumenov threw some very nice strikes BUT Larkin's kicks were killing that leg but I guess judges don't view it like that!!!!!!!!!
    Example 2) Noke got beat?????????? Really???????? The only judge who got this fight correct was the 30-27 for Noke, maybe 29-28 Noke BUT no way did Morano win that fight. I personally think Vegas doesn't care to much for Jackson's guys to be honest.
    Example 3) Kish 30-27 WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! So the first round Kish runs into 40 plus strikes and win's that round, hmmmmmmm. Round three Kish gets taking down, controlled for 2 minutes 30 seconds gets up takes Nina down, nice GnP but gets reversed and wins this round 10-9????????????
    Example 4) Maybe the worst of the judging by far IMO, JOE SOTO DID NOT LOSE THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet Tanaka and got a gift plain and simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I know Tanaka got 2 takedowns BUT he almost got subbed repeated times and in the third was fading as fast as I do after drinking 12 Mich Ultra's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Buyer beware this year in the UFC, it could be a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Since we have a little time between the events I figured I'd start a new thread to post about that accident at birth or some saw it as UFC 195!!!!!!!!!!

    Fights 3-9(+16.50)
    O/U 4-3(+2.05)
    First Fight Dog or FFD from now on 0-1(-1.00)

    Now before I get to the awful judging or poor refreeing, let's see how bad I messed this up, lol. Let's just start with the fights that didn't have questions around them, from the top so to speak.
    Stripe touches Andre's chin, pretty simple from their.
    Ortega probably down 2-0 battles back and from left field or where Whitebelt sits maybe, lol shows off that awesome BJJ.
    Sims WTFRENCH are you doing????????? Can't believe his fighter IQ is lower than Trujillo but it is.
    Dober/Hot Sauce even after two get in a 50/50 position, Dober wins the 50/50 and the fight, missed that one, lol.
    Dusty the Diamond, great job!!!!!!!!!! Thought Duffy didn't jump him when he tagged him in the first and it cost him , badly!!!!!!!!!!
    Westcott really did a number on Garcia eh?????? Which brings me to what a SHYTTY JOB with a few of these REFS!!!!!!!!!


    Westcott fight, how many times does a guy have to smoke a guy upside the head or a Ref ask three times to defend yourself????????? Try after two times maybe and stop it.
    Example 2) Kish/Ansaroff fight. So the dreaded eye poke by Kish and let's have the doctor fool with her eye, then say she's ok. But instead of giving her a few minutes to get vision back, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO let's start the fight inside of 30 seconds, what was the rush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Example 3) Now mind you Covers peeps I had McDonald as my big play BUT hold the phone, did anybody actually see what he did????????? Hooked the fence with his toes to gain position and apply a choke!!!!!!!!!!!! That is not allowed I thought????????? Just so you guys know on this alone I'm not a homer when I get to my last point THE JUDGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As UFC gamblers, judging has always been a thorn in are side, heck ask MISTER219 what he thinks of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I will post in Walshy's thread about the Lawler/Condit judging in a few, I'd rather type about a few other fights that were very iffy at best.
    Example 1) Tumenov/Larkin, a good fight could have gone either BUT when a guy outstrikes said person and does more damage how does he lose???????? Ring control, center of the octagon BS, yeah whatever!!!!!!!!!! Tumenov threw some very nice strikes BUT Larkin's kicks were killing that leg but I guess judges don't view it like that!!!!!!!!!
    Example 2) Noke got beat?????????? Really???????? The only judge who got this fight correct was the 30-27 for Noke, maybe 29-28 Noke BUT no way did Morano win that fight. I personally think Vegas doesn't care to much for Jackson's guys to be honest.
    Example 3) Kish 30-27 WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! So the first round Kish runs into 40 plus strikes and win's that round, hmmmmmmm. Round three Kish gets taking down, controlled for 2 minutes 30 seconds gets up takes Nina down, nice GnP but gets reversed and wins this round 10-9????????????
    Example 4) Maybe the worst of the judging by far IMO, JOE SOTO DID NOT LOSE THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet Tanaka and got a gift plain and simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I know Tanaka got 2 takedowns BUT he almost got subbed repeated times and in the third was fading as fast as I do after drinking 12 Mich Ultra's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Buyer beware this year in the UFC, it could be a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Redwing41
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2016 - 12:24 AM ET #2

    The judging is all over the place this card. It seems whoever is more aggresive and dominant will win rounds over a person who holds someone down in side control and does nothing. 

    You could bet on who the judges want to win. Some matches not all, have a fighter that are meant to win/ would be better business if they win. Others could go either way. 


    Macdonald nearly got choked out. How he pulled his arm out is beyond me.. 

    I bet Noke, caught the end of the match so cant tell who won. From what I hear Noke won. Its better business if Morono wins. Conspiracy theory I know.. I guess bet when your fighter has the political advantage, money line advantage and technical advantage. 

    With that line of thinking Cruz and Ronda to take back their title sounds like the move UFC wants = rigged judging? Idk, the fights say one thing the judges another.. 

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    The judging is all over the place this card. It seems whoever is more aggresive and dominant will win rounds over a person who holds someone down in side control and does nothing. 

    You could bet on who the judges want to win. Some matches not all, have a fighter that are meant to win/ would be better business if they win. Others could go either way. 


    Macdonald nearly got choked out. How he pulled his arm out is beyond me.. 

    I bet Noke, caught the end of the match so cant tell who won. From what I hear Noke won. Its better business if Morono wins. Conspiracy theory I know.. I guess bet when your fighter has the political advantage, money line advantage and technical advantage. 

    With that line of thinking Cruz and Ronda to take back their title sounds like the move UFC wants = rigged judging? Idk, the fights say one thing the judges another.. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2016 - 12:37 AM ET #3

    I also think they judge who had the more exciting round rather than punches landed. That is why they added octagon control, aggresiveness, pace to the rules. Essentially saying whoever had more highlights in the round, takedowns and aggresiveness wins. So more times than not the aggresive fighter/ dominant fighter wins close rounds because his pace, octagon control ect is scored. 
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    I also think they judge who had the more exciting round rather than punches landed. That is why they added octagon control, aggresiveness, pace to the rules. Essentially saying whoever had more highlights in the round, takedowns and aggresiveness wins. So more times than not the aggresive fighter/ dominant fighter wins close rounds because his pace, octagon control ect is scored. 
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