Betting quite a bit on Hamill as a solo bet plus i have him in a couple old parlays that included Mir over Crocop and Chris Lytle over Serra which will pay nice if Hamill can pull this off...
I just think Ortiz will be very rusty. Hamill is a better wrestler, his standup has improved, he has been on a nice little winning streak 4 i na row(yes i know he should of lost to Jones) but still, he did beat Jardine, Munoz which arent huge names but still decent fighters and a couple years ago he 'should' of won a decision over bisping.
Ortiz hasnt fought in forever and he wasnt doing that great when he was fighting.. He did fight top guys so we could say he only lost to the best fighters but still, he couldnt win one of his last 4 so how much credit can we give him? He did have two dominant wins 4 years ago lol, over old man shamrock.... lol.
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Betting quite a bit on Hamill as a solo bet plus i have him in a couple old parlays that included Mir over Crocop and Chris Lytle over Serra which will pay nice if Hamill can pull this off...
I just think Ortiz will be very rusty. Hamill is a better wrestler, his standup has improved, he has been on a nice little winning streak 4 i na row(yes i know he should of lost to Jones) but still, he did beat Jardine, Munoz which arent huge names but still decent fighters and a couple years ago he 'should' of won a decision over bisping.
Ortiz hasnt fought in forever and he wasnt doing that great when he was fighting.. He did fight top guys so we could say he only lost to the best fighters but still, he couldnt win one of his last 4 so how much credit can we give him? He did have two dominant wins 4 years ago lol, over old man shamrock.... lol.
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Give me Tito +175 in his hometown state.
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Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
I have a nice size bet on Hamill at -160 as well..Tito coming off the long layoff plus I dont think he he will be able to outwrestle Matt and ie Tito cant outwrestle you he probably wont win
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I have a nice size bet on Hamill at -160 as well..Tito coming off the long layoff plus I dont think he he will be able to outwrestle Matt and ie Tito cant outwrestle you he probably wont win
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Give me Tito +175 in his hometown state.
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Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Betting quite a bit on Hamill as a solo bet plus i have him in a couple old parlays that included Mir over Crocop and Chris Lytle over Serra which will pay nice if Hamill can pull this off...
I just think Ortiz will be very rusty. Hamill is a better wrestler, his standup has improved, he has been on a nice little winning streak 4 i na row(yes i know he should of lost to Jones) but still, he did beat Jardine, Munoz which arent huge names but still decent fighters and a couple years ago he 'should' of won a decision over bisping.
Ortiz hasnt fought in forever and he wasnt doing that great when he was fighting.. He did fight top guys so we could say he only lost to the best fighters but still, he couldnt win one of his last 4 so how much credit can we give him? He did have two dominant wins 4 years ago lol, over old man shamrock.... lol.
Although I agree more with Sharpstick, you do make some good points. I just think that the line is way off on this fight. I was at UFC 106 and Tito at less than 100% almost be Griffin. Tito looked the best he has looked in a long time at the weigh-ins. This is definitey an interesting fight, but not a fight anyone should be loading up on in either direction IMO...
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:
Betting quite a bit on Hamill as a solo bet plus i have him in a couple old parlays that included Mir over Crocop and Chris Lytle over Serra which will pay nice if Hamill can pull this off...
I just think Ortiz will be very rusty. Hamill is a better wrestler, his standup has improved, he has been on a nice little winning streak 4 i na row(yes i know he should of lost to Jones) but still, he did beat Jardine, Munoz which arent huge names but still decent fighters and a couple years ago he 'should' of won a decision over bisping.
Ortiz hasnt fought in forever and he wasnt doing that great when he was fighting.. He did fight top guys so we could say he only lost to the best fighters but still, he couldnt win one of his last 4 so how much credit can we give him? He did have two dominant wins 4 years ago lol, over old man shamrock.... lol.
Although I agree more with Sharpstick, you do make some good points. I just think that the line is way off on this fight. I was at UFC 106 and Tito at less than 100% almost be Griffin. Tito looked the best he has looked in a long time at the weigh-ins. This is definitey an interesting fight, but not a fight anyone should be loading up on in either direction IMO...
im not betting this 1 but if i was i would take "cheeto" as machida would say and the +$....... ortiz looked to be in the best shape i have seen him at the weigh ins and i think its a pretty even fight.... BOL
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im not betting this 1 but if i was i would take "cheeto" as machida would say and the +$....... ortiz looked to be in the best shape i have seen him at the weigh ins and i think its a pretty even fight.... BOL
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Give me Tito +175 in his hometown state.
Agree on this as well. Same thing happened in the CroCop/Barry fight. Barry could have tried to finish it early when he rocked CroCop, but didn't go in for the kill. I see a lot of value in Tito. BOL in any event.
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Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Give me Tito +175 in his hometown state.
Agree on this as well. Same thing happened in the CroCop/Barry fight. Barry could have tried to finish it early when he rocked CroCop, but didn't go in for the kill. I see a lot of value in Tito. BOL in any event.
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Give me Tito +175 in his hometown state.
At least we know that Hamill wants to take titos head off because of some of the comments tito made so i cant see hamill helping tito up or padding him on the back like Barry did for crocop, im still pissed off at barry for that shit. what an ass...
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Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:
Don't sleep on Tito here. It's always hard for a fighter to fight someone who has taught him or looks up to. Tito also looked in the best shape I have seen him in in 3 years or so.
Also, Hamill came in at 203....don't see that much.
Give me Tito +175 in his hometown state.
At least we know that Hamill wants to take titos head off because of some of the comments tito made so i cant see hamill helping tito up or padding him on the back like Barry did for crocop, im still pissed off at barry for that shit. what an ass...
i needed this one the most, had by far the most on this one, i rested easy after Hamill won... lost small amounts on Gonzaga, thiago, and kampman.. won with cain though which was an amazing fight..
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i needed this one the most, had by far the most on this one, i rested easy after Hamill won... lost small amounts on Gonzaga, thiago, and kampman.. won with cain though which was an amazing fight..
It's funny that all of these AMATURES are crying and bitching over the main event. So Lesnar lost.... There were other fights that made people some money... Like Matt.
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It's funny that all of these AMATURES are crying and bitching over the main event. So Lesnar lost.... There were other fights that made people some money... Like Matt.
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