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    UFC 183 Tim Boetsch 4.60 Is Incredible Value!!!

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    sharpstick
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 11:20 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......
    The sun may have been in his eyes when he started this thread, so maybe the loss should not count...,


    Lol! It'll be something.

    Can't wait for his next inside info post....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......
    The sun may have been in his eyes when he started this thread, so maybe the loss should not count...,


    Lol! It'll be something.

    Can't wait for his next inside info post....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 8:06 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    You are.  

    An adult can see through someone looking for attention with posting about inside information.  

    Someone who isn't an adult thinks "inside info" is good on a guy who got submitted.  Tell me how that works again....?

    Lol you obviously know nothing about sports betting. Let me break it down for you REAL SLOW

     a guy that had 4.8 odds so you only have to win 1 times out of 4 times and i willl STILL MAKE MONEY. almost knock the other guy THREE TIMES and was dominating, but you still bash that bet???. You truly don't understand sports betting or mma. to say after watching that fight, that betting tim was a bad bet... just shows how ignorant you are



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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    You are.  

    An adult can see through someone looking for attention with posting about inside information.  

    Someone who isn't an adult thinks "inside info" is good on a guy who got submitted.  Tell me how that works again....?

    Lol you obviously know nothing about sports betting. Let me break it down for you REAL SLOW

     a guy that had 4.8 odds so you only have to win 1 times out of 4 times and i willl STILL MAKE MONEY. almost knock the other guy THREE TIMES and was dominating, but you still bash that bet???. You truly don't understand sports betting or mma. to say after watching that fight, that betting tim was a bad bet... just shows how ignorant you are



     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 8:40 AM ET #28

    Now for you mars101, your friend saw right in that fight , it was a coin flip but it was paying almost 5 to 1. So very good value. You came close to win , and with those odds  you will end up on the + unit side, i promise you that, i have been betting mma for years and i make money by finding VALUE in fights. You will sometime lose a couple but then you win 1 or 2 fight and you get those units back + profits.

    The 5 plays your friend told you to play were good. And i am saying this has someone that has made a play on barao. But i saw wrong in that fight. I thought gagnon had less than a 6% shot to win that fight. Which his very rare for me to think. and i got barao at 1.15 which mean i thought it add value. but gagnon obviously add a better shot than that, so it was a bad bet from my part.

    Tim on the other side, i had him at almost a 50% chance to win that fight but the return was not 2 to 1 which would have been a complete pass for me or a play on leites, bu the return wast 5 to 1, and after watching that fight, i know i was right. tim had a better chance than that

    I take my time to write you because you don't seem to have been betting mma for has long has i have, so i am only trying to help you. Sometimes by betting those big underdog you will lose a couple. But you only have to win a small percentage to make a profit. in the long run, all that counts his the % to win the fight VS the payout %. 

    This other guy will win 4 fights in a row at 1.2 average odds and then lose 1 fight and will actually be losing money.

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    Now for you mars101, your friend saw right in that fight , it was a coin flip but it was paying almost 5 to 1. So very good value. You came close to win , and with those odds  you will end up on the + unit side, i promise you that, i have been betting mma for years and i make money by finding VALUE in fights. You will sometime lose a couple but then you win 1 or 2 fight and you get those units back + profits.

    The 5 plays your friend told you to play were good. And i am saying this has someone that has made a play on barao. But i saw wrong in that fight. I thought gagnon had less than a 6% shot to win that fight. Which his very rare for me to think. and i got barao at 1.15 which mean i thought it add value. but gagnon obviously add a better shot than that, so it was a bad bet from my part.

    Tim on the other side, i had him at almost a 50% chance to win that fight but the return was not 2 to 1 which would have been a complete pass for me or a play on leites, bu the return wast 5 to 1, and after watching that fight, i know i was right. tim had a better chance than that

    I take my time to write you because you don't seem to have been betting mma for has long has i have, so i am only trying to help you. Sometimes by betting those big underdog you will lose a couple. But you only have to win a small percentage to make a profit. in the long run, all that counts his the % to win the fight VS the payout %. 

    This other guy will win 4 fights in a row at 1.2 average odds and then lose 1 fight and will actually be losing money.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 11:20 AM ET #29

    I don't think either barao or Leites were in any trouble in any of those fights. If both those fights rematched would you seriously bet either gagnon or boetsch?
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    I don't think either barao or Leites were in any trouble in any of those fights. If both those fights rematched would you seriously bet either gagnon or boetsch?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 11:22 AM ET #30

    Leites stepped over guard and submitted boetsch so easily
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    Leites stepped over guard and submitted boetsch so easily
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 12:39 PM ET #31

    My first loss 
    New record 3-1

    Anyone saying that my Boetsch pick was bad is a complete moron. Elites got extremely lucky.

    Will have my next vale pick for the upcoming card. Will be 4-1
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    My first loss 
    New record 3-1

    Anyone saying that my Boetsch pick was bad is a complete moron. Elites got extremely lucky.

    Will have my next vale pick for the upcoming card. Will be 4-1
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 1:37 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by sawman:

    I don't think either barao or Leites were in any trouble in any of those fights. If both those fights rematched would you seriously bet either gagnon or boetsch?

    Anyone that says leites was not in any trouble in that fight makes me having a conversation with them, really difficult.

    But to answer the question. I would put 1 to win 10 on gagnon easily. 
    It was a close fight that almost made it to a decision. Barao looks awful recently and i thought he would be superior now that he faced lower competition, but i was wrong and gagnon was able to control him against the cage and even won a good amount of the exchanges on the feet. Gagnon could absolutely win a rematch and i would take 10.00 odds has a gift now that i know it should be 3.5 or 4 maximum.

    i hope you understand that i am not saying gagnon would be the favorite to win ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawman:

    I don't think either barao or Leites were in any trouble in any of those fights. If both those fights rematched would you seriously bet either gagnon or boetsch?

    Anyone that says leites was not in any trouble in that fight makes me having a conversation with them, really difficult.

    But to answer the question. I would put 1 to win 10 on gagnon easily. 
    It was a close fight that almost made it to a decision. Barao looks awful recently and i thought he would be superior now that he faced lower competition, but i was wrong and gagnon was able to control him against the cage and even won a good amount of the exchanges on the feet. Gagnon could absolutely win a rematch and i would take 10.00 odds has a gift now that i know it should be 3.5 or 4 maximum.

    i hope you understand that i am not saying gagnon would be the favorite to win ?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 1:48 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:


    Lol you obviously know nothing about sports betting. Let me break it down for you REAL SLOW

     a guy that had 4.8 odds so you only have to win 1 times out of 4 times and i willl STILL MAKE MONEY. almost knock the other guy THREE TIMES and was dominating, but you still bash that bet???. You truly don't understand sports betting or mma. to say after watching that fight, that betting tim was a bad bet... just shows how ignorant you are




    I've forgotten more about sports betting than you will ever know.  Line moves, making numbers, risk management, etc.

    And, again you've confirmed how big of a complete idiot you are.  Immediately after your spiel about how much about sports betting you know, you said that you had Boetsch winning close to 50% of the time, however, would be unwilling to bet 2-1.  A bet at +200 only needs to win 33% of the time to break even.  See the difference there?

    You're a total moron.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:


    Lol you obviously know nothing about sports betting. Let me break it down for you REAL SLOW

     a guy that had 4.8 odds so you only have to win 1 times out of 4 times and i willl STILL MAKE MONEY. almost knock the other guy THREE TIMES and was dominating, but you still bash that bet???. You truly don't understand sports betting or mma. to say after watching that fight, that betting tim was a bad bet... just shows how ignorant you are




    I've forgotten more about sports betting than you will ever know.  Line moves, making numbers, risk management, etc.

    And, again you've confirmed how big of a complete idiot you are.  Immediately after your spiel about how much about sports betting you know, you said that you had Boetsch winning close to 50% of the time, however, would be unwilling to bet 2-1.  A bet at +200 only needs to win 33% of the time to break even.  See the difference there?

    You're a total moron.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2015 - 1:54 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars101:

    My first loss 
    New record 3-1

    Anyone saying that my Boetsch pick was bad is a complete moron. Elites got extremely lucky.

    Will have my next vale pick for the upcoming card. Will be 4-1


    First loss?!?!?  

    What about this thread:
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars101:

    My first loss 
    New record 3-1

    Anyone saying that my Boetsch pick was bad is a complete moron. Elites got extremely lucky.

    Will have my next vale pick for the upcoming card. Will be 4-1


    First loss?!?!?  

    What about this thread:
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019


     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 8:25 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:




    i did not say i would not take +200. i deal in decimal so i would not take 2.0 odds
    . you are obviously searching for anything just to be negative and to hide how much you know nothing about mma, but each time you talk about a fight or a fighter it REALLY SHOWS, you can't hide it to people that have practiced and watched this sports for years.

    But hey... trying to make common sense to someone that thinks inside info means that the fighter will win 100% of the time a fight. shows me you forgot A LOT about sport betting, lol its truly hillarious .   

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    i did not say i would not take +200. i deal in decimal so i would not take 2.0 odds
    . you are obviously searching for anything just to be negative and to hide how much you know nothing about mma, but each time you talk about a fight or a fighter it REALLY SHOWS, you can't hide it to people that have practiced and watched this sports for years.

    But hey... trying to make common sense to someone that thinks inside info means that the fighter will win 100% of the time a fight. shows me you forgot A LOT about sport betting, lol its truly hillarious .   

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 8:32 AM ET #36


    But why do you need to come back on this guy treads all the time to bash this person. Stop being so miserable. You think he his a fraud ? you think his picks suck ? Who cares, when i think someone his a fraud i just don't go in his tread

    I compare what you are doing to a if in life you would not like someone and think he his a fraud but go to his house all the time to argue with the person and say negative things about him.... why do it ? me i just don't go at that person house so both him and i are happier . In the end stop being so miserable and go make your own treads. this guy his 3-2  and still on the + side. what have you contributed ?
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    But why do you need to come back on this guy treads all the time to bash this person. Stop being so miserable. You think he his a fraud ? you think his picks suck ? Who cares, when i think someone his a fraud i just don't go in his tread

    I compare what you are doing to a if in life you would not like someone and think he his a fraud but go to his house all the time to argue with the person and say negative things about him.... why do it ? me i just don't go at that person house so both him and i are happier . In the end stop being so miserable and go make your own treads. this guy his 3-2  and still on the + side. what have you contributed ?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 10:00 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:


    But why do you need to come back on this guy treads all the time to bash this person. Stop being so miserable. You think he his a fraud ? you think his picks suck ? Who cares, when i think someone his a fraud i just don't go in his tread

    I compare what you are doing to a if in life you would not like someone and think he his a fraud but go to his house all the time to argue with the person and say negative things about him.... why do it ? me i just don't go at that person house so both him and i are happier . In the end stop being so miserable and go make your own treads. this guy his 3-2  and still on the + side. what have you contributed ?

    He is openly lying, and deceiving to other posters.  Desperately looking for attention.  So, I'm here to let them know the truth, rather than follow someone touting "inside information" but not keeping an accurate record, and leaving losses off his record.

    But you never answered my question.  You know so much about sports betting (or so you say) and had Boetsch winning near 50% of the time.  Surely you know that at +200, winning 50% of the time is very profitable.  But yet, you say you wouldn't play +200.  Please explain this to me sports betting master......  
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    But why do you need to come back on this guy treads all the time to bash this person. Stop being so miserable. You think he his a fraud ? you think his picks suck ? Who cares, when i think someone his a fraud i just don't go in his tread

    I compare what you are doing to a if in life you would not like someone and think he his a fraud but go to his house all the time to argue with the person and say negative things about him.... why do it ? me i just don't go at that person house so both him and i are happier . In the end stop being so miserable and go make your own treads. this guy his 3-2  and still on the + side. what have you contributed ?

    He is openly lying, and deceiving to other posters.  Desperately looking for attention.  So, I'm here to let them know the truth, rather than follow someone touting "inside information" but not keeping an accurate record, and leaving losses off his record.

    But you never answered my question.  You know so much about sports betting (or so you say) and had Boetsch winning near 50% of the time.  Surely you know that at +200, winning 50% of the time is very profitable.  But yet, you say you wouldn't play +200.  Please explain this to me sports betting master......  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 10:57 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    He is openly lying, and deceiving to other posters.  Desperately looking for attention.  So, I'm here to let them know the truth, rather than follow someone touting "inside information" but not keeping an accurate record, and leaving losses off his record.

    But you never answered my question.  You know so much about sports betting (or so you say) and had Boetsch winning near 50% of the time.  Surely you know that at +200, winning 50% of the time is very profitable.  But yet, you say you wouldn't play +200.  Please explain this to me sports betting master......  

    That's not a reason to come after the fight his done to laugh at him... that's makes no sense.  You are making excuses to be a negative ahole. 

    And i never said +200. i said 2 to 1. which i meant in decimal i would not take 2.00. Do you know what that means ? 
    2.00 odds in decimal equals +100. and why are you so stuck on this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    He is openly lying, and deceiving to other posters.  Desperately looking for attention.  So, I'm here to let them know the truth, rather than follow someone touting "inside information" but not keeping an accurate record, and leaving losses off his record.

    But you never answered my question.  You know so much about sports betting (or so you say) and had Boetsch winning near 50% of the time.  Surely you know that at +200, winning 50% of the time is very profitable.  But yet, you say you wouldn't play +200.  Please explain this to me sports betting master......  

    That's not a reason to come after the fight his done to laugh at him... that's makes no sense.  You are making excuses to be a negative ahole. 

    And i never said +200. i said 2 to 1. which i meant in decimal i would not take 2.00. Do you know what that means ? 
    2.00 odds in decimal equals +100. and why are you so stuck on this ?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 3:36 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    He is openly lying, and deceiving to other posters.  Desperately looking for attention.  So, I'm here to let them know the truth, rather than follow someone touting "inside information" but not keeping an accurate record, and leaving losses off his record.

    But you never answered my question.  You know so much about sports betting (or so you say) and had Boetsch winning near 50% of the time.  Surely you know that at +200, winning 50% of the time is very profitable.  But yet, you say you wouldn't play +200.  Please explain this to me sports betting master......  

    That is the worst.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=100901413

     

     

    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    He is openly lying, and deceiving to other posters.  Desperately looking for attention.  So, I'm here to let them know the truth, rather than follow someone touting "inside information" but not keeping an accurate record, and leaving losses off his record.

    But you never answered my question.  You know so much about sports betting (or so you say) and had Boetsch winning near 50% of the time.  Surely you know that at +200, winning 50% of the time is very profitable.  But yet, you say you wouldn't play +200.  Please explain this to me sports betting master......  

    That is the worst.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=100901413

     

     

     
    sharpstick
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 4:47 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    That is the worst.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=100901413

     

     



    Those were Billy Walters NBA plays.  I'd say that is pretty good inside info.  

    Never lied about a record either.

    But thanks for strengthening exactly what I was trying to say.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    That is the worst.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=100901413

     

     



    Those were Billy Walters NBA plays.  I'd say that is pretty good inside info.  

    Never lied about a record either.

    But thanks for strengthening exactly what I was trying to say.  
     
    ParlayJoe17
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 5:14 PM ET #41

    Dude just admit that you posted Gagnon as a play and your record is 2-3.  I agree that after seeing each fight, every single one of the picks was a good pick.
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    Dude just admit that you posted Gagnon as a play and your record is 2-3.  I agree that after seeing each fight, every single one of the picks was a good pick.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 5:29 PM ET #42

    3-1 this year, 0-1 last year. Let's move it along, nothing to see here, lol.
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    3-1 this year, 0-1 last year. Let's move it along, nothing to see here, lol.
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