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    Bob's MLB Thursday *** 8.14.14 ***

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    BirdsOnBat
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:01 PM ET #1

    Overall Record
    YTD: 672-547-93 (55%) *** +4.06% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 193-172 (53%)
    F5: 163-135-54 (55%)
    RL: 29-42 (41%)
    O/U: 286-198-38 (59%)
    Starting / Current Bankroll: $1,500 / $2,079 (+39%)

    Picks of the Day Record
    YTD: 54-32-8 (63%) *** +16.60% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 12-7 (63%)
    F5: 18-10-3 (64%)
    RL: 3-4 (43%)
    O/U: 21-11-5 (66%)

    Yesterday's Results, 8/13/2014
    Record: 7-4-0 (64%) 
    Risked / To Win: 11.00 Units / 9.67 Units (avg. line of -116)
    Profit: +2.87 Units / +$57.95 
    Return on Risk: +26.08%
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    Bet Sizing: 1 Unit is 1% of my bankroll (~$21 as of today). Admittedly, I place relatively small wagers in comparison to other bettors on individual plays. But, to put things into perspective, if you were a dime bettor and followed all of my plays you would be up $, on the season based on my return on risk performance. 

    Number of plays: I have received some feedback regarding the amount of action (plays) I have each day. I often elect to spread my risk out by selecting wagers that express the same view. So, while the number of bets might seem high, 2-3 plays on the same game can often be consolidated into 1 play with more concentrated risk. For example, sometimes I split my risk between the first 5 innings and the full game while also placing a wager on the run total. 

    Diversification/Money Management: Remember, you can express a view in a number of ways and it's about finding the cheapest way with the best risk/reward profile. Don't fall into the trap of putting too much risk in one place. You (and I) will lose "sure thing" wagers, so limiting the damage from one pick is imperative. If there is one takeaway this is it. Diversification is key to money management. There's a reason why I have placed 1,000+ wagers this season and still have my original bankroll (and some profit) to play with in the second half! As the season goes on, I will begin wagering plays with higher payouts but only with a portion of my profit.

    Picks of the Day (POD) / Regular Play (RP): Going forward I will color code my plays to differentiate between my favorite plays (orange) and my regular value plays (blue). I won't necessarily size any differently. A few people approached me and asked me to do this, so I am going to try it out for the second half of the season. Maybe I will discover something that I can incorporate for the next season.
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    Overall Record
    YTD: 672-547-93 (55%) *** +4.06% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 193-172 (53%)
    F5: 163-135-54 (55%)
    RL: 29-42 (41%)
    O/U: 286-198-38 (59%)
    Starting / Current Bankroll: $1,500 / $2,079 (+39%)

    Picks of the Day Record
    YTD: 54-32-8 (63%) *** +16.60% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 12-7 (63%)
    F5: 18-10-3 (64%)
    RL: 3-4 (43%)
    O/U: 21-11-5 (66%)

    Yesterday's Results, 8/13/2014
    Record: 7-4-0 (64%) 
    Risked / To Win: 11.00 Units / 9.67 Units (avg. line of -116)
    Profit: +2.87 Units / +$57.95 
    Return on Risk: +26.08%
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=101930043

    Bet Sizing: 1 Unit is 1% of my bankroll (~$21 as of today). Admittedly, I place relatively small wagers in comparison to other bettors on individual plays. But, to put things into perspective, if you were a dime bettor and followed all of my plays you would be up $, on the season based on my return on risk performance. 

    Number of plays: I have received some feedback regarding the amount of action (plays) I have each day. I often elect to spread my risk out by selecting wagers that express the same view. So, while the number of bets might seem high, 2-3 plays on the same game can often be consolidated into 1 play with more concentrated risk. For example, sometimes I split my risk between the first 5 innings and the full game while also placing a wager on the run total. 

    Diversification/Money Management: Remember, you can express a view in a number of ways and it's about finding the cheapest way with the best risk/reward profile. Don't fall into the trap of putting too much risk in one place. You (and I) will lose "sure thing" wagers, so limiting the damage from one pick is imperative. If there is one takeaway this is it. Diversification is key to money management. There's a reason why I have placed 1,000+ wagers this season and still have my original bankroll (and some profit) to play with in the second half! As the season goes on, I will begin wagering plays with higher payouts but only with a portion of my profit.

    Picks of the Day (POD) / Regular Play (RP): Going forward I will color code my plays to differentiate between my favorite plays (orange) and my regular value plays (blue). I won't necessarily size any differently. A few people approached me and asked me to do this, so I am going to try it out for the second half of the season. Maybe I will discover something that I can incorporate for the next season.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:02 PM ET #2

    Thursday's Card *** 8/14/2014 ***

    I may have a few more later this afternoon.


    Sides 

    Atlanta Braves FG (-123) --- 1.00% of Bankroll

    Detroit Tigers -1 RL (-134) --- 1.50% of Bankroll

    St. Louis Cardinals FG (-155) --- 1.00% of Bankroll
    St. Louis Cardinals -1.5 RL (+140) --- 0.50% of Bankroll

    Arizona Diamondbacks F5 (+112) --- 1.00% of Bankroll

    Tampa Bay Rays F5 (-127) --- 1.00% of Bankroll
    Tampa Bay Rays -1 RL (-110) --- 0.50% of Bankroll 


    Totals

    Los Angeles/Atlanta Over 4 F5 (-110) --- 0.75% of Bankroll

    Pittsburgh/Detroit Over 3.5 F5 (-130) --- 0.75% of Bankroll

    Oakland/Kansas City Under 7.5 (-125) --- 1.00% of Bankroll
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    Thursday's Card *** 8/14/2014 ***

    I may have a few more later this afternoon.


    Sides 

    Atlanta Braves FG (-123) --- 1.00% of Bankroll

    Detroit Tigers -1 RL (-134) --- 1.50% of Bankroll

    St. Louis Cardinals FG (-155) --- 1.00% of Bankroll
    St. Louis Cardinals -1.5 RL (+140) --- 0.50% of Bankroll

    Arizona Diamondbacks F5 (+112) --- 1.00% of Bankroll

    Tampa Bay Rays F5 (-127) --- 1.00% of Bankroll
    Tampa Bay Rays -1 RL (-110) --- 0.50% of Bankroll 


    Totals

    Los Angeles/Atlanta Over 4 F5 (-110) --- 0.75% of Bankroll

    Pittsburgh/Detroit Over 3.5 F5 (-130) --- 0.75% of Bankroll

    Oakland/Kansas City Under 7.5 (-125) --- 1.00% of Bankroll
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:04 PM ET #3

    GL Birds 
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:05 PM ET #4

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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:11 PM ET #5

    I got f5 over in ATL at even money
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:18 PM ET #6

    got a lean on Mil Chi? Fiers was amazing in his first season but then they tried to make him a reliever and he busted out and got sent back down. I get the feeling it was more the Brewers fault he didn't stick than his. Most of his the runs he allwoed were concentrated in a few games IIRC. He's got that experience under his belt faces a subpar team and opposite Jackson who is, well, Jackson,
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    got a lean on Mil Chi? Fiers was amazing in his first season but then they tried to make him a reliever and he busted out and got sent back down. I get the feeling it was more the Brewers fault he didn't stick than his. Most of his the runs he allwoed were concentrated in a few games IIRC. He's got that experience under his belt faces a subpar team and opposite Jackson who is, well, Jackson,
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:20 PM ET #7

    btw, what's with Puig getting picked off first every other game? WTF?
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:26 PM ET #8

    I saw the Braves over (F5) moved to +100 right after I locked it in! boooo.

    No Braun or Ramirez, both of whom have hit Jackson in the past, in the lineup today. Segura is also out.

    Man, Jackson is probably one of the most frustrating pitchers have in a game you're trying to cap… he has electric stuff and is capable of being lights out on any given day, but he also has complete meltdowns where he can't find the strike zone (or finds too much of it).

    I was originally leaning Milwaukee, but I am probably laying off after seeing the lineup.
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    I saw the Braves over (F5) moved to +100 right after I locked it in! boooo.

    No Braun or Ramirez, both of whom have hit Jackson in the past, in the lineup today. Segura is also out.

    Man, Jackson is probably one of the most frustrating pitchers have in a game you're trying to cap… he has electric stuff and is capable of being lights out on any given day, but he also has complete meltdowns where he can't find the strike zone (or finds too much of it).

    I was originally leaning Milwaukee, but I am probably laying off after seeing the lineup.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:41 PM ET #9

    blah blah blah, thought about taking the dodgers but the lines were doing a dance and it confused me, one more run for the free-roll bro

    one might argue that taking Braun out of the 2 spot helps the brewers, he needs his steroids back, Parra is fully capable of handling the load in the field and at the plate, he hits like a 2 hitter is supposed to hit, also it bolsters the pinch hitters

    Mil -129 for me
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    blah blah blah, thought about taking the dodgers but the lines were doing a dance and it confused me, one more run for the free-roll bro

    one might argue that taking Braun out of the 2 spot helps the brewers, he needs his steroids back, Parra is fully capable of handling the load in the field and at the plate, he hits like a 2 hitter is supposed to hit, also it bolsters the pinch hitters

    Mil -129 for me
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:42 PM ET #10

    What's your feelings about diamondbacks vs marlins o/u? I'm leaning under..
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 12:56 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Dlin420:

    What's your feelings about diamondbacks vs marlins o/u? I'm leaning under..

    I like the Under 4 F5 (-110) more than Under 8 FG (-120), but I need to see more from Penny before I play with unders when he is on the mound (regardless of how quiet the Zona bats have been).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dlin420:

    What's your feelings about diamondbacks vs marlins o/u? I'm leaning under..

    I like the Under 4 F5 (-110) more than Under 8 FG (-120), but I need to see more from Penny before I play with unders when he is on the mound (regardless of how quiet the Zona bats have been).
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:20 PM ET #13

    It would be nice if the Braves could muster up the energy to score 1 run off this gas can… for pete's sake. only 9 outs to work with to get this 5th run!
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    It would be nice if the Braves could muster up the energy to score 1 run off this gas can… for pete's sake. only 9 outs to work with to get this 5th run!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:32 PM ET #14

    Any leans on the oak/kc game?
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:33 PM ET #15

    BOL today Bob
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:35 PM ET #16

    nice to be in the win column to start the day, I'm 2 units to the good so far weeeee
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    nice to be in the win column to start the day, I'm 2 units to the good so far weeeee
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:40 PM ET #17

    For some reason I wanted to take KC but could not pull the trigger, KC hasn't seen samardzija yet, I think I'm going to play Oakland and the first half under at 3.5 but looking at some things
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    For some reason I wanted to take KC but could not pull the trigger, KC hasn't seen samardzija yet, I think I'm going to play Oakland and the first half under at 3.5 but looking at some things
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:47 PM ET #18

    I'm going Oak + under f5, sammy slightly better pitcher, oak better lineup, very important game and if either pitcher is on runs at premium
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    I'm going Oak + under f5, sammy slightly better pitcher, oak better lineup, very important game and if either pitcher is on runs at premium
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:50 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by RISKforREWARD:

    Any leans on the oak/kc game?

    I like Oakland and the under… like the latter play more than the side (clearly, as it is a POD haha).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RISKforREWARD:

    Any leans on the oak/kc game?

    I like Oakland and the under… like the latter play more than the side (clearly, as it is a POD haha).
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 1:57 PM ET #20

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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 2:02 PM ET #21

    how come your POD's dont match the money you risk? im just curious cause i would assume you would want to bet more on POD and less on regular plays..
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    how come your POD's dont match the money you risk? im just curious cause i would assume you would want to bet more on POD and less on regular plays..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 2:25 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by DodgersFan89:

    how come your POD's dont match the money you risk? im just curious cause i would assume you would want to bet more on POD and less on regular plays..


    I have been diligently tracking my performance this season.

    Run totals vs. Sides
    NL vs. AL
    Dogs vs. Favorites
    Individual Teams
    .500+ teams vs. sub-.500 teams
    etc.

    I wanted a full season of wagering data before I played with sizing differently for PODs. At the end of the day, most people are incapable of sizing bets based on implied probability vs. "realized" probability differentials (bc they don't calculate the differentials).

    Highlighting which ones I am most confident in was only in response to people asking me to do so, and I have only been doing it for about a month. Next season I will incorporate sizing based on PODs and RPs (more than likely).  

    from my first post: "I won't necessarily size any differently. A few people approached me and asked me to do this, so I am going to try it out for the second half of the season. Maybe I will discover something that I can incorporate for the next season."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DodgersFan89:

    how come your POD's dont match the money you risk? im just curious cause i would assume you would want to bet more on POD and less on regular plays..


    I have been diligently tracking my performance this season.

    Run totals vs. Sides
    NL vs. AL
    Dogs vs. Favorites
    Individual Teams
    .500+ teams vs. sub-.500 teams
    etc.

    I wanted a full season of wagering data before I played with sizing differently for PODs. At the end of the day, most people are incapable of sizing bets based on implied probability vs. "realized" probability differentials (bc they don't calculate the differentials).

    Highlighting which ones I am most confident in was only in response to people asking me to do so, and I have only been doing it for about a month. Next season I will incorporate sizing based on PODs and RPs (more than likely).  

    from my first post: "I won't necessarily size any differently. A few people approached me and asked me to do this, so I am going to try it out for the second half of the season. Maybe I will discover something that I can incorporate for the next season."

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 3:10 PM ET #23

    You've really thought this through and you've gone out of your way to help others. Respect, man. 
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    You've really thought this through and you've gone out of your way to help others. Respect, man. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 3:22 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by FullyLoaded:

    You've really thought this through and you've gone out of your way to help others. Respect, man.


    Seriously man. I almost always read your write ups before I pick. I don't always tail, but I always take your write ups Into consideration. Big thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by FullyLoaded:

    You've really thought this through and you've gone out of your way to help others. Respect, man.


    Seriously man. I almost always read your write ups before I pick. I don't always tail, but I always take your write ups Into consideration. Big thanks
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 3:53 PM ET #25

    damn, I changed my mind and flipped from KC f5 to oakland f5, but got a split, milwaukee was  gift have 5 units on it split between f4ml and f5rl, Fiers is a beast

    looking at some things bbl to post my picks
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    damn, I changed my mind and flipped from KC f5 to oakland f5, but got a split, milwaukee was  gift have 5 units on it split between f4ml and f5rl, Fiers is a beast

    looking at some things bbl to post my picks
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