Do the Tigers have a bullpen this year?

just wondering

lot of money to be made fading them this year...in select spots of course

maybe we just have to keep bumping this thread for the next 6 months until people learn not to lay ridiculous chalk on them

unless of course you get an ironclad guarantee than Zoolander, Bonderman, or Dontrelle will throw a CG shutout

I figure they'll be working a deal for Joe Nathan by April 15th. 

Although they've depleted their system over the last 2 years and may not have much to trade. 

I'd even go as far to ask if they have a pitching staff?

Fade train so far:
Tigers
Yanks
Cubs at home

Are the starters really that good though PJ? And can you see them going 7 or 8 every night?

Verlander is a stud, but the rest of them are scary as hell.

Bonderman is incredibly overrated and his best ERA and WHIP he's ever had were 4.08 and 1.30 and batters hit a career .268 off him.

Rogers is old and starting to break down. In the only 11 starts he made last year he wasn't very good and didn't even average 6 IP per start.

Nate Robertson has passed his prime and has only had 1 season of an ERA under 4.48! He alos got lit up last year and has a career BAA of .273.

I don't know what to make of Dontrelle Willis, we've seen some great stuff from him before but he's always given up a lot of hits but when he was on the impact of those hits was less because he gave up very few walks. In his best season he had only a 2.09 BB/9 but last year it nearly doubled to almost 4 walks per 9 innings. That just won't cut it in the AL especially if he continues to give up hits, i don't know I have a funny feeling he might be pretty good this year but I don't know it's hit or miss.

1 good starter followed by 4 huge question marks isn't what you want from a team that has such big expectations. Those questionable starters also lead to more bad starts which leads to the domino effect and a questionable bullpen will eventually have to eat up more innings and they will wear down as the year goes on. The Tigs bullpen had to pitch over 515 innings last season which was 5th most in the AL.

Remember as bad as the Tigers bullpen was last year they still had a better ERA then the starters did. (4.68 to 4.37) Damn I think I might have talked myself in an Under play on Detroit season wins.

Detroit is probably the most overrated team in general in the league. I'm not sold on their pitching staff at all, bullpen or starters. Their batters are also all old veterans for the most part, and you have to figure they will eventually run into injury problems. I love Cabrera, and I think he's probably the third best hitter in the AL after A-Rod and Ortiz, but after that I'm not impressed. I guarantee you Maggs does nothing close to what he did last year, and Sheffield and Pudge are getting old now. Granderson is a player that I like, but I definitely think he's a tad overrated. The best hitting teams in the AL will be Boston and Toronto, and both teams probably have better pitching staffs than Detroit (Toronto has a lot of potential stud pitchers).

I was just doing a write for my Under Detriot season wins (gotta get the overs done too) and I was going to mention the age of the batters and obvious injury concerns, you brought up that and I think it's being overlooked. I do disagree about Toronto's hitters though, I think they will be a real darkhorse this year but it won't be because of the bats, the pitching will carry this team.

No, don't tell anyone! We need to keep the value in Detroit.

I'll admit, Detroit has one of the scariest lineups in baseball, and also a nice defense, but that's it.
The pitching staff past Verlander is a disaster waiting to happen. And the bullpen is just as suspect. You can't win it all with problems this big on your team. Getting rid of Jurrjens and Miller was dumb, imo.

If you're gonna play em, 1st 5 innings seems like the way to go. 

sympathy bump

bat - he has no choice

i hope he doesnt have a heart attack by the AS Break

holy shit, do the Royals have a bullpen? I can't believe I am seeing Brett Tomko pitching the Sheffield/Ordonez/Cabrera