I think tonight night be a ngood spot to fade bannister. he has not really impressed me this year. His numbers are not horrible 1-2 5.03, but if you have watched this guy pitch at all he seems to be struggling.
I understand westbrook hasnt show much better 0-2 5.74. But I like the tribe here.
thoughts? opinions?
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I think tonight night be a ngood spot to fade bannister. he has not really impressed me this year. His numbers are not horrible 1-2 5.03, but if you have watched this guy pitch at all he seems to be struggling.
I understand westbrook hasnt show much better 0-2 5.74. But I like the tribe here.
And I don't like Bannister, but he's had good numbers against Detrot back to back, TB, and MN......all very good offensive teams. He has had two turds against the Chisox and Toronto...I'll give you that.
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And I don't like Bannister, but he's had good numbers against Detrot back to back, TB, and MN......all very good offensive teams. He has had two turds against the Chisox and Toronto...I'll give you that.
Bannister has 4 out of 6 quality starts this year and 2 out of 2 at home. Cleveland hitters are just 22 for 95 in their careers against Bannister for a .232 average.
Westbrook has been battling back problems and almost got scratched from this start. In his L3 starts, he has lasted just 14 2/3 innings and allowed 17 hits 10 runs and 7 walks. His road ERA is 6.53.
Kc is hitting 29 points higher as a team (.273 vs. .244), has a slugging percentage that is 59 points higher and an OPS that is 133 points higher.
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Bannister has 4 out of 6 quality starts this year and 2 out of 2 at home. Cleveland hitters are just 22 for 95 in their careers against Bannister for a .232 average.
Westbrook has been battling back problems and almost got scratched from this start. In his L3 starts, he has lasted just 14 2/3 innings and allowed 17 hits 10 runs and 7 walks. His road ERA is 6.53.
Kc is hitting 29 points higher as a team (.273 vs. .244), has a slugging percentage that is 59 points higher and an OPS that is 133 points higher.
What I never have understood, GH, is how the books are so damn smart that they offer these "sucker" lines on games like this, but they don't do it for every game. If I were that smart, I'd exploit every game I could. This must me the only one where they already know the outcome on today's card.
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What I never have understood, GH, is how the books are so damn smart that they offer these "sucker" lines on games like this, but they don't do it for every game. If I were that smart, I'd exploit every game I could. This must me the only one where they already know the outcome on today's card.
Bannister has 4 out of 6 quality starts this year and 2 out of 2 at home. Cleveland hitters are just 22 for 95 in their careers against Bannister for a .232 average.
Westbrook has been battling back problems and almost got scratched from this start. In his L3 starts, he has lasted just 14 2/3 innings and allowed 17 hits 10 runs and 7 walks. His road ERA is 6.53.
Kc is hitting 29 points higher as a team (.273 vs. .244), has a slugging percentage that is 59 points higher and an OPS that is 133 points higher.
Appreciate the info.
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
Bannister has 4 out of 6 quality starts this year and 2 out of 2 at home. Cleveland hitters are just 22 for 95 in their careers against Bannister for a .232 average.
Westbrook has been battling back problems and almost got scratched from this start. In his L3 starts, he has lasted just 14 2/3 innings and allowed 17 hits 10 runs and 7 walks. His road ERA is 6.53.
Kc is hitting 29 points higher as a team (.273 vs. .244), has a slugging percentage that is 59 points higher and an OPS that is 133 points higher.
this would be a situational spot to actually play on bannister....only thing against him tonight is his start time is in the evening, can be very effective at home and really has had great success vs the tribe, think he puts his last start behind him but i cant back the guy.
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this would be a situational spot to actually play on bannister....only thing against him tonight is his start time is in the evening, can be very effective at home and really has had great success vs the tribe, think he puts his last start behind him but i cant back the guy.
What I never have understood, GH, is how the books are so damn smart that they offer these "sucker" lines on games like this, but they don't do it for every game. If I were that smart, I'd exploit every game I could. This must me the only one where they already know the outcome on today's card.
I'm not sure if I see it as a sucker line. It matters how you look at it. KC is 3-10 their last 13 and are 11-21 overall. Cleveland has the better overall record at 11-18 and are 3-9 their L12. Both pitchers have ERA's in the 5's. On paper, it's two evenly matched teams so I am not sure the books needed to make the line much higher. Now I think the records are a bit skewed as KC has played 20 of their 32 games on the road and jsut came in off an 11 game road trip.
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
What I never have understood, GH, is how the books are so damn smart that they offer these "sucker" lines on games like this, but they don't do it for every game. If I were that smart, I'd exploit every game I could. This must me the only one where they already know the outcome on today's card.
I'm not sure if I see it as a sucker line. It matters how you look at it. KC is 3-10 their last 13 and are 11-21 overall. Cleveland has the better overall record at 11-18 and are 3-9 their L12. Both pitchers have ERA's in the 5's. On paper, it's two evenly matched teams so I am not sure the books needed to make the line much higher. Now I think the records are a bit skewed as KC has played 20 of their 32 games on the road and jsut came in off an 11 game road trip.
GH, I don't see it as a "sucker" line. Someone in this thread does, though.
Suckers line? Nah, that is anyone who took Toronto last night or tonight. Those people are suckers who just dont get it.
This is just an interesting line to me. Awful short. Now that everyone is placing their wagers, it gets pushed north almost to 120, but I dont think it will ever hit 120. Why not open it higher?
You have your school of thought and I have mine, I wont ridicule yours. I dont know why you have to take personal offense to mine. You have other things to worry about, champ.
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
GH, I don't see it as a "sucker" line. Someone in this thread does, though.
Suckers line? Nah, that is anyone who took Toronto last night or tonight. Those people are suckers who just dont get it.
This is just an interesting line to me. Awful short. Now that everyone is placing their wagers, it gets pushed north almost to 120, but I dont think it will ever hit 120. Why not open it higher?
You have your school of thought and I have mine, I wont ridicule yours. I dont know why you have to take personal offense to mine. You have other things to worry about, champ.
Suckers line? Nah, that is anyone who took Toronto last night or tonight. Those people are suckers who just dont get it.
This is just an interesting line to me. Awful short. Now that everyone is placing their wagers, it gets pushed north almost to 120, but I dont think it will ever hit 120. Why not open it higher?
You have your school of thought and I have mine, I wont ridicule yours. I dont know why you have to take personal offense to mine. You have other things to worry about, champ.
Every once in a while a line opens and gets bet one way or another.
Twins line has been bet up 20 cents but I don't see you saying anything about that. Why does this game intrigue you so much?
Why aren't you commenting about all the other lines that have changed? I just don't understand the inconsistency if this is your approach.
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Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:
Suckers line? Nah, that is anyone who took Toronto last night or tonight. Those people are suckers who just dont get it.
This is just an interesting line to me. Awful short. Now that everyone is placing their wagers, it gets pushed north almost to 120, but I dont think it will ever hit 120. Why not open it higher?
You have your school of thought and I have mine, I wont ridicule yours. I dont know why you have to take personal offense to mine. You have other things to worry about, champ.
Every once in a while a line opens and gets bet one way or another.
Twins line has been bet up 20 cents but I don't see you saying anything about that. Why does this game intrigue you so much?
Why aren't you commenting about all the other lines that have changed? I just don't understand the inconsistency if this is your approach.
By the way, that's the reason I bet it.....because I thought it was value at where it was. Feel free to try and figure out what Vegas is "trying to do to you." I'll stick with betting lines that I think are incorrect.
GL tonight champ.
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By the way, that's the reason I bet it.....because I thought it was value at where it was. Feel free to try and figure out what Vegas is "trying to do to you." I'll stick with betting lines that I think are incorrect.
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