Sorry if this question sounds dumb....but, if Bucs should not be a favorite today (meaning the Cubs should be favored to win today) why bet the Bucs at minus money?
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Sorry if this question sounds dumb....but, if Bucs should not be a favorite today (meaning the Cubs should be favored to win today) why bet the Bucs at minus money?
I have no idea what the hell you meant by saying they shouldnt be a fav today yet you took them
If I had to guess, he's saying that the fact that they're a favorite when he thinks they should not be suggests that Vegas knows something and he's going to side with Vegas.
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Quote Originally Posted by neander100:
I have no idea what the hell you meant by saying they shouldnt be a fav today yet you took them
If I had to guess, he's saying that the fact that they're a favorite when he thinks they should not be suggests that Vegas knows something and he's going to side with Vegas.
If I had to guess, he's saying that the fact that they're a favorite when he thinks they should not be suggests that Vegas knows something and he's going to side with Vegas.
More or less. He accepts the fact that the guys who make the lines are better handicappers than him (and most everybody else), so he follows their lead.
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Quote Originally Posted by Torreny3:
If I had to guess, he's saying that the fact that they're a favorite when he thinks they should not be suggests that Vegas knows something and he's going to side with Vegas.
More or less. He accepts the fact that the guys who make the lines are better handicappers than him (and most everybody else), so he follows their lead.
However, upon further investigation, the Cubs actually opened up as a slight favorite (-112 @ betonline) and bettors have pushed the Pirates into being a favorite. Not my type of play, but the value may be in the Cubs right now.
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However, upon further investigation, the Cubs actually opened up as a slight favorite (-112 @ betonline) and bettors have pushed the Pirates into being a favorite. Not my type of play, but the value may be in the Cubs right now.
He's merely reading the line to make the bet. He's right--no way the Pirates should be favored with the team BA .163 against Wood (McCutchen .077/19 PA). Bucs are the play for sure IMHO. Better team, and what I think will count most, better bullpen.
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He's merely reading the line to make the bet. He's right--no way the Pirates should be favored with the team BA .163 against Wood (McCutchen .077/19 PA). Bucs are the play for sure IMHO. Better team, and what I think will count most, better bullpen.
Sorry if this question sounds dumb....but, if Bucs should not be a favorite today (meaning the Cubs should be favored to win today) why bet the Bucs at minus money?
He is capping the line.
Oddmakers made Pirates fav for a reason. That is his point.
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Quote Originally Posted by capuchaboy:
Sorry if this question sounds dumb....but, if Bucs should not be a favorite today (meaning the Cubs should be favored to win today) why bet the Bucs at minus money?
He is capping the line.
Oddmakers made Pirates fav for a reason. That is his point.
However, upon further investigation, the Cubs actually opened up as a slight favorite (-112 @ betonline) and bettors have pushed the Pirates into being a favorite. Not my type of play, but the value may be in the Cubs right now.
Yep, notice that. I'll pass. Opening line looks fair IMO.
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Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:
However, upon further investigation, the Cubs actually opened up as a slight favorite (-112 @ betonline) and bettors have pushed the Pirates into being a favorite. Not my type of play, but the value may be in the Cubs right now.
Yep, notice that. I'll pass. Opening line looks fair IMO.
I respectfully disagree. The Pirates are 35-25 and the Cubs are 24-33. The Pirates are the much better team record wise and Liriano is 3-2, 2.17. The line is set right as it normally is. With that being said, I am going small on CHIC. Good luck anyways.
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I respectfully disagree. The Pirates are 35-25 and the Cubs are 24-33. The Pirates are the much better team record wise and Liriano is 3-2, 2.17. The line is set right as it normally is. With that being said, I am going small on CHIC. Good luck anyways.
I know you have your principles and that's probably the basis of backing Cleveland +190 tonight, but I'd refrain if I were you. Imo it lines up for a verlander god mode performance.
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I know you have your principles and that's probably the basis of backing Cleveland +190 tonight, but I'd refrain if I were you. Imo it lines up for a verlander god mode performance.
Jose I knew last night the Mets and most of the East Coast games was going to be PPD because I was watching the news last night.
RebellTell answered why I thought the Bucs should not be favored.
Getty I saw a site where the Cubs opened as the fav but all of the books I check for overnight lines had the Bucs as the fav. Their opens are almost always the same as the opens on internet betting %'s sites although you are right the Cubs did open as a fav on one of them. I take the open at my sites more seriously though.
raems the Indians are just a lean but really haven't looked at much except the Cubs game which can go either way at this point. Going to take a deeper look at all the games now because I just walked in.
bookiekiller we'll have to agree to disagree on this line and what it should be. Keep posting I like hearing your thoughts.
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Jose I knew last night the Mets and most of the East Coast games was going to be PPD because I was watching the news last night.
RebellTell answered why I thought the Bucs should not be favored.
Getty I saw a site where the Cubs opened as the fav but all of the books I check for overnight lines had the Bucs as the fav. Their opens are almost always the same as the opens on internet betting %'s sites although you are right the Cubs did open as a fav on one of them. I take the open at my sites more seriously though.
raems the Indians are just a lean but really haven't looked at much except the Cubs game which can go either way at this point. Going to take a deeper look at all the games now because I just walked in.
bookiekiller we'll have to agree to disagree on this line and what it should be. Keep posting I like hearing your thoughts.
Nice hit on PITT. I got sucked into taking the sorry CUBS. Then I read someone's post and got sucked into taking the OVER. Both had NO chance! Whatcha got tonight? I need some serious help! Thanks!
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Nice hit on PITT. I got sucked into taking the sorry CUBS. Then I read someone's post and got sucked into taking the OVER. Both had NO chance! Whatcha got tonight? I need some serious help! Thanks!
I have to take a shot at this price, maybe it's a sucker bet but I have to find out. I don't fear Verlander or the Tigers the way most of you do. Tigers disappoint far too much laying big prices.
SD +142
DeLaRosa isn't half as good as he's been pitching and he will come crashing down sooner rather then later. SD continues to hold great value day in day out. Volquez has been pitching better of late, just hope he keeps them in the game.
TB -110
Hammel stinks, seems like the O's score 10 runs every game he pitches. The mirrors are about to break.
Jays -105
I can't trust Tepesch at a pick on the road. Nice line movement on this game. Has all the things I look for when I bet a game, heavy lean to the over but I never bet side and total in the same game.
Houston +205
Nothing wrong with the line Train. During their win streak of 7 I didn't bet them a couple times because I said the line was too high what am I missing? They are going to have high lines every game for now so I stopped reading into it last week. Shields has pitched into bad luck and KC still is the softest hitting team in MLB, they need 3 hits to score one run. Never seen a team with so little power. Lyles is on the verge of becoming a very very good pitcher.
+26.18 units 132-146 and 2 units each
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Indians first 5 +185
I have to take a shot at this price, maybe it's a sucker bet but I have to find out. I don't fear Verlander or the Tigers the way most of you do. Tigers disappoint far too much laying big prices.
SD +142
DeLaRosa isn't half as good as he's been pitching and he will come crashing down sooner rather then later. SD continues to hold great value day in day out. Volquez has been pitching better of late, just hope he keeps them in the game.
TB -110
Hammel stinks, seems like the O's score 10 runs every game he pitches. The mirrors are about to break.
Jays -105
I can't trust Tepesch at a pick on the road. Nice line movement on this game. Has all the things I look for when I bet a game, heavy lean to the over but I never bet side and total in the same game.
Houston +205
Nothing wrong with the line Train. During their win streak of 7 I didn't bet them a couple times because I said the line was too high what am I missing? They are going to have high lines every game for now so I stopped reading into it last week. Shields has pitched into bad luck and KC still is the softest hitting team in MLB, they need 3 hits to score one run. Never seen a team with so little power. Lyles is on the verge of becoming a very very good pitcher.
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