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    GeorgeCarlin
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 2:59 PM ET #51

    Somedays I trylu do think like you--it's all random. Can't guage player effort and desire. A heart is hidden on the inside of every player. Somedays they just don't wanna give their best, or just can't.
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    Somedays I trylu do think like you--it's all random. Can't guage player effort and desire. A heart is hidden on the inside of every player. Somedays they just don't wanna give their best, or just can't.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:04 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

    Thats why in MLB you can have a 48% success rate and still be on the positive side.

    48% in any other sport... you're in limbo.

    The secret to making money in MLB is riding out "value" plays, grind out the season by playing 8-10 games per day. In the long run, you might have a 375-388 record but you'll still be making money, granted that most of those "value" plays are underdogs and small faves.

    You cannot play 8-10 NBA or NFL games per day like you can in MLB, i think.

    48% in the NHL can work out great for you as well, Kane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

    Thats why in MLB you can have a 48% success rate and still be on the positive side.

    48% in any other sport... you're in limbo.

    The secret to making money in MLB is riding out "value" plays, grind out the season by playing 8-10 games per day. In the long run, you might have a 375-388 record but you'll still be making money, granted that most of those "value" plays are underdogs and small faves.

    You cannot play 8-10 NBA or NFL games per day like you can in MLB, i think.

    48% in the NHL can work out great for you as well, Kane.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:23 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by atlheatholder:

    Are you serious?  So essentially, I need not look for value in any sort in a line or what my line for a specific game might be - I just need to blindly throw money down on a team that I like. 

    Horrific information on so many levels.

    read quote #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlheatholder:

    Are you serious?  So essentially, I need not look for value in any sort in a line or what my line for a specific game might be - I just need to blindly throw money down on a team that I like. 

    Horrific information on so many levels.

    read quote #47

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:26 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    alot in baseball. Don't you people realize that in baseball it's a 50/50 chance of winning on every game played. You are just wasting your time, "Capping". Example, yesterday with Little Timmy L pitching, the Giants are still  only going to win that game between 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 or 6 times out of 10. The Nationals are going to beat the Philllys 40%-60% of the time they play them. The Phillys are going to beat the Braves 45%-55% of the time, and so on and so on. Find a team you like, don't look at the line, and play it. Of games played this year won,  Favs 102,or 59%, Dogs, 70, or 41%, pretty close. Next month it will be 53% Fav winners, 47% Dog winners. So "Cap" away.


    If every game was 50/50 then all you'd have to do is betting every + money underdog and you'd be rich. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    alot in baseball. Don't you people realize that in baseball it's a 50/50 chance of winning on every game played. You are just wasting your time, "Capping". Example, yesterday with Little Timmy L pitching, the Giants are still  only going to win that game between 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 or 6 times out of 10. The Nationals are going to beat the Philllys 40%-60% of the time they play them. The Phillys are going to beat the Braves 45%-55% of the time, and so on and so on. Find a team you like, don't look at the line, and play it. Of games played this year won,  Favs 102,or 59%, Dogs, 70, or 41%, pretty close. Next month it will be 53% Fav winners, 47% Dog winners. So "Cap" away.


    If every game was 50/50 then all you'd have to do is betting every + money underdog and you'd be rich. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:53 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    Finally, some smart MLB bettors in here. HappyKane and DirtNap. HappyKane, you said it best,  VALUE in baseball betting. VALUE is the key to MLB betting

    dcmc -

    The above quote is yours (quote #47).  This was a decent thing for you to say & I agree with it.  For me, there's no use in betting (any sport) unless there's reasonable value involved.

    However, the first post you made didn't talk about value.  It talked about just picking a team you like (without looking at the line) and betting them - and that's what I disagree with.  Let's say the Indians are playing in New York.  The line comes out at NY -290 Cleveland +250.  Lets say that NY has been on an offensive tear by scoring 6 runs in their last 5 games, while the Indians have scored only 5 runs total in their last 5 games.  Let's say that I watched both of those teams on TV throughout the week and I was highly impressed with the Yanks, and I thought the Indians were playing at a Little League level.

    So, due to your theory of liking a team and betting them, I should take the Yankees because I'm liking what they're doing, but I shouldn't even look at the line.  And that there, is what I will not do - ever.  It makes no sense.  There is no value in blindly betting on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    Finally, some smart MLB bettors in here. HappyKane and DirtNap. HappyKane, you said it best,  VALUE in baseball betting. VALUE is the key to MLB betting

    dcmc -

    The above quote is yours (quote #47).  This was a decent thing for you to say & I agree with it.  For me, there's no use in betting (any sport) unless there's reasonable value involved.

    However, the first post you made didn't talk about value.  It talked about just picking a team you like (without looking at the line) and betting them - and that's what I disagree with.  Let's say the Indians are playing in New York.  The line comes out at NY -290 Cleveland +250.  Lets say that NY has been on an offensive tear by scoring 6 runs in their last 5 games, while the Indians have scored only 5 runs total in their last 5 games.  Let's say that I watched both of those teams on TV throughout the week and I was highly impressed with the Yanks, and I thought the Indians were playing at a Little League level.

    So, due to your theory of liking a team and betting them, I should take the Yankees because I'm liking what they're doing, but I shouldn't even look at the line.  And that there, is what I will not do - ever.  It makes no sense.  There is no value in blindly betting on anything.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 3:56 PM ET #57

    I'd vote this as covers dumbest post of the month, but since there is so much competition, it can only be tied.

    Congratulations.


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    I'd vote this as covers dumbest post of the month, but since there is so much competition, it can only be tied.

    Congratulations.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 4:00 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by tep:

    Little Timmy L pitching, the Giants are still  only going to win that game between 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 or 6 times out of 10

    Well he is already 5-2 lifetime against LA 70% winning rate. Guess he will lose the next 3?

    The Nationals are going to beat the Philllys 40%-60% of the time they play them
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    Washington is 4-16 last 20 games. Well they are only winning 20% of the time against Philly.

    The Phillys are going to beat the Braves 45%-55% of the time

    Atlanta is 12-8 last 20 against Philly for a 60% winning rate.













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    Quote Originally Posted by tep:

    Little Timmy L pitching, the Giants are still  only going to win that game between 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 or 6 times out of 10

    Well he is already 5-2 lifetime against LA 70% winning rate. Guess he will lose the next 3?

    The Nationals are going to beat the Philllys 40%-60% of the time they play them
    .

    Washington is 4-16 last 20 games. Well they are only winning 20% of the time against Philly.

    The Phillys are going to beat the Braves 45%-55% of the time

    Atlanta is 12-8 last 20 against Philly for a 60% winning rate.













     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 4:12 PM ET #59

    dcmc can I be your bookie?
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 5:47 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    dcmc can I be your bookie?
    Sure, how can I get into touch with you. I am up $775 for the week. I know, you don't believe me. I never said that I win or lose games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    dcmc can I be your bookie?
    Sure, how can I get into touch with you. I am up $775 for the week. I know, you don't believe me. I never said that I win or lose games.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 5:59 PM ET #61

    Hey, Vanzack, if the Colts played the Rams with this years team, 100 times, 50 home, 50 in St Louis. How many times do you think  the Rams would win the game.  Would like to know your answer please, just a simple question.
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    Hey, Vanzack, if the Colts played the Rams with this years team, 100 times, 50 home, 50 in St Louis. How many times do you think  the Rams would win the game.  Would like to know your answer please, just a simple question.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 6:17 PM ET #63

    You are completely and utterly wrong.

    Even if you were right, and games were split 50-50 between dogs and faves...

    Why would I not cap? I hit 56% of my baseball games, using my capping skills over the course of the last couple seasons...

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    You are completely and utterly wrong.

    Even if you were right, and games were split 50-50 between dogs and faves...

    Why would I not cap? I hit 56% of my baseball games, using my capping skills over the course of the last couple seasons...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 6:24 PM ET #64

    At the seasons end, the games will be at 50-50, I'm not making this stat up, can't you people not see that. I'm not saying this myself, the games are saying for me. It's at %59-%41 right now. Again, I am not saying this, the games are.
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    At the seasons end, the games will be at 50-50, I'm not making this stat up, can't you people not see that. I'm not saying this myself, the games are saying for me. It's at %59-%41 right now. Again, I am not saying this, the games are.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 6:31 PM ET #65

    Just for the record the Dogs are 7-3 right now, I know all those cappers had Dogs today.
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    Just for the record the Dogs are 7-3 right now, I know all those cappers had Dogs today.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 6:43 PM ET #66

    Dogs now have  won 8 and   lost 3 so far today, I'm not actually saying this, the games are. I know the Cappers have make a killing today.
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    Dogs now have  won 8 and   lost 3 so far today, I'm not actually saying this, the games are. I know the Cappers have make a killing today.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 6:56 PM ET #67

    People who think you have a 50/50 chance just because its a 2 horse race


    If the Australian baseball team played the New York Yankees and you bet on the Aussies would you have a 50% chance of winning?



    Aussies would have about a 10% chance of winning



    Every game is 50/50
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    People who think you have a 50/50 chance just because its a 2 horse race


    If the Australian baseball team played the New York Yankees and you bet on the Aussies would you have a 50% chance of winning?



    Aussies would have about a 10% chance of winning



    Every game is 50/50
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 7:03 PM ET #68

    59% to 41% is not "pretty close.  In a season of 2130 games, that 18% makes up a 437 game difference.

    I don't know about you....but I don't consider 437 games "pretty close"

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    59% to 41% is not "pretty close.  In a season of 2130 games, that 18% makes up a 437 game difference.

    I don't know about you....but I don't consider 437 games "pretty close"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    At the seasons end, the games will be at 50-50, I'm not making this stat up, can't you people not see that. I'm not saying this myself, the games are saying for me. It's at %59-%41 right now. Again, I am not saying this, the games are.

    Dude, you keep regurgitating this statistic, but what is your point? You simply can't take the season average and apply it to every game. Dp you not understand that? Not every single game is a 50/50 proposition. I believe that's the point vanzack was attempting to make with the weather analogy. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    At the seasons end, the games will be at 50-50, I'm not making this stat up, can't you people not see that. I'm not saying this myself, the games are saying for me. It's at %59-%41 right now. Again, I am not saying this, the games are.

    Dude, you keep regurgitating this statistic, but what is your point? You simply can't take the season average and apply it to every game. Dp you not understand that? Not every single game is a 50/50 proposition. I believe that's the point vanzack was attempting to make with the weather analogy. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by goscots56:

    59% to 41% is not "pretty close.  In a season of 2130 games, that 18% makes up a 437 game difference.

    I don't know about you....but I don't consider 437 games "pretty close"

    At season end, it won't be 59 to 41 difference, it will be more like 51-49. After today, it's now at 57-43, and it will get closer as the year goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goscots56:

    59% to 41% is not "pretty close.  In a season of 2130 games, that 18% makes up a 437 game difference.

    I don't know about you....but I don't consider 437 games "pretty close"

    At season end, it won't be 59 to 41 difference, it will be more like 51-49. After today, it's now at 57-43, and it will get closer as the year goes on.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 7:27 PM ET #71

    Don't let Vanzack fool you with his "big" vocabulary, he is no more smarter than you are, or pick games better than you can.
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    Don't let Vanzack fool you with his "big" vocabulary, he is no more smarter than you are, or pick games better than you can.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    Don't let Vanzack fool you with his "big" vocabulary, he is no more smarter than you are, or pick games better than you can.

    Ummmm....he is not fooling me, I assure you. I was merely pointing something out that had seemed to escape you. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    Don't let Vanzack fool you with his "big" vocabulary, he is no more smarter than you are, or pick games better than you can.

    Ummmm....he is not fooling me, I assure you. I was merely pointing something out that had seemed to escape you. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    Hey, Vanzack, if the Colts played the Rams with this years team, 100 times, 50 home, 50 in St Louis. How many times do you think  the Rams would win the game.  Would like to know your answer please, just a simple question.

     

    with the spread if correct this should result in 50-50...its not straight up.....in baseball there is no spread there are odds, which is where VALUE comes in......it means if the yankees at home should beat the royals 7 of every 10 times u will have to lay a little more than 2 to one on them each time they play at the stadium.....this is a simple view but should work.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcmc34f:

    Hey, Vanzack, if the Colts played the Rams with this years team, 100 times, 50 home, 50 in St Louis. How many times do you think  the Rams would win the game.  Would like to know your answer please, just a simple question.

     

    with the spread if correct this should result in 50-50...its not straight up.....in baseball there is no spread there are odds, which is where VALUE comes in......it means if the yankees at home should beat the royals 7 of every 10 times u will have to lay a little more than 2 to one on them each time they play at the stadium.....this is a simple view but should work.....

     
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    The initial post in this thread just eptimozies why most gamblers LOSE.

    Please re-read Vanzack's posts. He tried to educate you and it all flew over your head.

    My favorite line here is, "Find a team you like, don't look at the line."

    Doesn't that contradict your underlying premise? If baseball is just a coin toss like you said and favorites will win 51% of the time and dogs 49% (by the way, there is no way favorites will win only 51% of the time) then the ONLY factor that would matter is the LINE, which you say we should all ignore.

    You clearly shouldn't be gambling!
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    The initial post in this thread just eptimozies why most gamblers LOSE.

    Please re-read Vanzack's posts. He tried to educate you and it all flew over your head.

    My favorite line here is, "Find a team you like, don't look at the line."

    Doesn't that contradict your underlying premise? If baseball is just a coin toss like you said and favorites will win 51% of the time and dogs 49% (by the way, there is no way favorites will win only 51% of the time) then the ONLY factor that would matter is the LINE, which you say we should all ignore.

    You clearly shouldn't be gambling!
     
     
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    *epitomizes
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