i had a friend who referred me to a bookie and he pulled some bullshit like me on that on a football game 5 years ago...i told him i will have his money waiting for him, but he has to come and get it. he never came and i paid my buddy what i bet and never bet with the guy again.
move on bro
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i had a friend who referred me to a bookie and he pulled some bullshit like me on that on a football game 5 years ago...i told him i will have his money waiting for him, but he has to come and get it. he never came and i paid my buddy what i bet and never bet with the guy again.
if you wager online, you will only lose 30 dollars to win $25. something or whatever it is. He is just taking putting the juice on like you would with a point spread for 100 dollar bet (which would lose -110). He's just juicing you that way
I know a lot of guys who do it that way, don't really think he's retarded, pretty much the same thing... unless you don't have the extra $4.80 to pay
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it should be your way.. but its the same thing
if you wager online, you will only lose 30 dollars to win $25. something or whatever it is. He is just taking putting the juice on like you would with a point spread for 100 dollar bet (which would lose -110). He's just juicing you that way
I know a lot of guys who do it that way, don't really think he's retarded, pretty much the same thing... unless you don't have the extra $4.80 to pay
It has to do with if you bet to win or bet to risk. Did you bet to win 30? on the regular if you bet 30 and its at -116 he should know that you are only losing 30 and winning 25. Hey, this is like the second issue I've heard with your book. Maybe you need another book.
-DD
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It has to do with if you bet to win or bet to risk. Did you bet to win 30? on the regular if you bet 30 and its at -116 he should know that you are only losing 30 and winning 25. Hey, this is like the second issue I've heard with your book. Maybe you need another book.
Hes right....lets say that you were to bet 100 and the moneyline is -116 you would lose 116 if you lost and if is was +116 you would win 116 if you won. The moneyline is based on a $100 dollar bet so if you bet less or more you need to do the math accordingly. Example on a ML that is -116 if you played a $50 dollar bet the you would be risking 58 to win 50.
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Hes right....lets say that you were to bet 100 and the moneyline is -116 you would lose 116 if you lost and if is was +116 you would win 116 if you won. The moneyline is based on a $100 dollar bet so if you bet less or more you need to do the math accordingly. Example on a ML that is -116 if you played a $50 dollar bet the you would be risking 58 to win 50.
Hes right....lets say that you were to bet 100 and the moneyline is -116 you would lose 116 if you lost and if is was +116 you would win 116 if you won. The moneyline is based on a $100 dollar bet so if you bet less or more you need to do the math accordingly. Example on a ML that is -116 if you played a $50 dollar bet the you would be risking 58 to win 50.
exactly
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Quote Originally Posted by wieghead97:
Hes right....lets say that you were to bet 100 and the moneyline is -116 you would lose 116 if you lost and if is was +116 you would win 116 if you won. The moneyline is based on a $100 dollar bet so if you bet less or more you need to do the math accordingly. Example on a ML that is -116 if you played a $50 dollar bet the you would be risking 58 to win 50.
I don't mean this offensively but you are definitely much younger than me. You are getting caught up in an old school vs. new school debate with regard to wagering. I am old school.
When I call up my book and say give me $100 on the Yankees (say the Yankees are -150 and take back is +140) that really means I am betting to win $100 on the Yankees and I am risking $150. if I bet the dog in that example and said, give me the orioles for $100, it would mean I'm risking $100 but could win +$140. It's really no different than when I call up for football and say give me the Giants for $100. When I say that about the Giants, I am risking $110 to win $100.
In the old days, books were credit shops and you were playing with an open line of credit. It sounds to me like you are playing potentially with a credit book, but maybe I'm wrong. In the gaming industry in the last 10 years, most of these internet shops have opened up and there is no credit. You can only bet what you have on deposit so the newer trend is that the amount you play is the maximum you are risking, which is totally different than your old school way.
I don't think your book is ripping you off. You jsut have to realize it's the old school way. If you bet an amount on a favorite, that is the amount you are going to win. If it loses, you have to then factor in the line. if you bet on a dog, that is the amount you are going to risk and if you win, you have to factor in the positive juice.
Good luck.
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I don't mean this offensively but you are definitely much younger than me. You are getting caught up in an old school vs. new school debate with regard to wagering. I am old school.
When I call up my book and say give me $100 on the Yankees (say the Yankees are -150 and take back is +140) that really means I am betting to win $100 on the Yankees and I am risking $150. if I bet the dog in that example and said, give me the orioles for $100, it would mean I'm risking $100 but could win +$140. It's really no different than when I call up for football and say give me the Giants for $100. When I say that about the Giants, I am risking $110 to win $100.
In the old days, books were credit shops and you were playing with an open line of credit. It sounds to me like you are playing potentially with a credit book, but maybe I'm wrong. In the gaming industry in the last 10 years, most of these internet shops have opened up and there is no credit. You can only bet what you have on deposit so the newer trend is that the amount you play is the maximum you are risking, which is totally different than your old school way.
I don't think your book is ripping you off. You jsut have to realize it's the old school way. If you bet an amount on a favorite, that is the amount you are going to win. If it loses, you have to then factor in the line. if you bet on a dog, that is the amount you are going to risk and if you win, you have to factor in the positive juice.
he is not ripping u off just mis communication. you need to be specific with ur books from here on out. next time say
i want to risk 30 or i want to win 30. it is as simple as that.
for simplicity use whole numbers next time do not risk 30 to win 24.8. its harder to add and will find more errors when u end ur books for the week. just some usefull information u outta use
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he is not ripping u off just mis communication. you need to be specific with ur books from here on out. next time say
i want to risk 30 or i want to win 30. it is as simple as that.
for simplicity use whole numbers next time do not risk 30 to win 24.8. its harder to add and will find more errors when u end ur books for the week. just some usefull information u outta use
Some bonehead books try to juice you at 100 rate regardless of if you make a .5 play those books usually don't like short action and are trying to discourage small players. Find a new book or pick up your play. At least you have plenty to choose from these days.
BOL
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Some bonehead books try to juice you at 100 rate regardless of if you make a .5 play those books usually don't like short action and are trying to discourage small players. Find a new book or pick up your play. At least you have plenty to choose from these days.
This is very common with bookies not with online books. All you have to do is you specify "to risk" or "to win" and your problems are done. This seems you might be used to online books.
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This is very common with bookies not with online books. All you have to do is you specify "to risk" or "to win" and your problems are done. This seems you might be used to online books.
Listen to gamehunter and let go of your anger. It was a simple misunderstanding. When you bet a favorite they assume you will lose the juice on top of the potential payout if things don't go your way. You were not ripped off at all IMO
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Listen to gamehunter and let go of your anger. It was a simple misunderstanding. When you bet a favorite they assume you will lose the juice on top of the potential payout if things don't go your way. You were not ripped off at all IMO
I'll have to back your book on this as well. It may help to think of it as a football wager. When you call in a $100 bet at -110. Do you lose $110 or $91? Every book I've ever used takes a "to win" bet.
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I'll have to back your book on this as well. It may help to think of it as a football wager. When you call in a $100 bet at -110. Do you lose $110 or $91? Every book I've ever used takes a "to win" bet.
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