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    JIMENEZ-LINCECUM anybody playing UNDER 6 today ?

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    wonwiththehook
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 10:53 AM ET #1

    If Lincecum can find the strike zone this probably stays UNDER.

    Anybody have any thoughts on this ?

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    If Lincecum can find the strike zone this probably stays UNDER.

    Anybody have any thoughts on this ?

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:04 AM ET #2

    I say over I think the Giants get to Ubaldo today.  Just for some reason whenever you have 2 top flight pitchers squaring off and you think its going to be a boring 1-0 type of game.  The offenses show up and say not so fast.  Ubaldo is doing something that has only been done a few times in major league baseball 10 starts 9 -1 record and an era under 1?  That Giants pen is suspect the Rockies offense is hitting.  I just think this game sees at least 7 I know I am in the minority but cannot see Ubaldo keeping up at this pace.
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    I say over I think the Giants get to Ubaldo today.  Just for some reason whenever you have 2 top flight pitchers squaring off and you think its going to be a boring 1-0 type of game.  The offenses show up and say not so fast.  Ubaldo is doing something that has only been done a few times in major league baseball 10 starts 9 -1 record and an era under 1?  That Giants pen is suspect the Rockies offense is hitting.  I just think this game sees at least 7 I know I am in the minority but cannot see Ubaldo keeping up at this pace.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:11 AM ET #3

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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:15 AM ET #4

    If both teams hit 3 it goes over for sure...but can they in a pitchers park with those two on the mound?  I have seen lots of 6.5 totals before but I don't know if I can recall seeing a 6 total with the under so heavily favored (-125 at my book).  This is close to shifting to 5.5 which I know I've NEVER seen in my 10 years of betting.

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    If both teams hit 3 it goes over for sure...but can they in a pitchers park with those two on the mound?  I have seen lots of 6.5 totals before but I don't know if I can recall seeing a 6 total with the under so heavily favored (-125 at my book).  This is close to shifting to 5.5 which I know I've NEVER seen in my 10 years of betting.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:16 AM ET #5

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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:17 AM ET #6

    it doesnt make sense to me right now. we all know how good lincecum is, but as for now he is struggling a bit. wouldnt be surprised at all if the roxx beat him big tonight.
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    it doesnt make sense to me right now. we all know how good lincecum is, but as for now he is struggling a bit. wouldnt be surprised at all if the roxx beat him big tonight.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:22 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by wkufan:

    If both teams hit 3 it goes over for sure...but can they in a pitchers park with those two on the mound?  I have seen lots of 6.5 totals before but I don't know if I can recall seeing a 6 total with the under so heavily favored (-125 at my book).  This is close to shifting to 5.5 which I know I've NEVER seen in my 10 years of betting.

    I agree with 6 is a crazy low number.If I see a 5.5 I will hammer the OVER !
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkufan:

    If both teams hit 3 it goes over for sure...but can they in a pitchers park with those two on the mound?  I have seen lots of 6.5 totals before but I don't know if I can recall seeing a 6 total with the under so heavily favored (-125 at my book).  This is close to shifting to 5.5 which I know I've NEVER seen in my 10 years of betting.

    I agree with 6 is a crazy low number.If I see a 5.5 I will hammer the OVER !
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:22 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Dith:

    it doesnt make sense to me right now. we all know how good lincecum is, but as for now he is struggling a bit. wouldnt be surprised at all if the roxx beat him big tonight.

    Was  thinking of taking Ubaldo for the same reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dith:

    it doesnt make sense to me right now. we all know how good lincecum is, but as for now he is struggling a bit. wouldnt be surprised at all if the roxx beat him big tonight.

    Was  thinking of taking Ubaldo for the same reason
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:26 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by wonwiththehook:

    I agree with 6 is a crazy low number.If I see a 5.5 I will hammer the OVER !

    if you would HAMMER the over 5.5...why no love for the over 6? if you love over 5.5 you need at least 6 runs...if they score 6 you cant lose on the over 6.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonwiththehook:

    I agree with 6 is a crazy low number.If I see a 5.5 I will hammer the OVER !

    if you would HAMMER the over 5.5...why no love for the over 6? if you love over 5.5 you need at least 6 runs...if they score 6 you cant lose on the over 6.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:28 AM ET #10

    Well there was a 5.5 just about a week ago.  I just think that too many people are squating on the low number.  Day game in SF which is a pitchers park but the ball tends to travel better in the daylight.  I mean 2 bloops and and a blast by both sides and you lost.  Can Ubaldo continue to do what he is doing?  I say no cause it has never been done in baseball.  He had a visit to AT & T last season where the Giants lit him up.  Every top flight starter has at least 1 bad game and he is yet to have it.  He is living on borrowed time as I do not think he can really believe he is going to go all season w/o getting roughed up at least 1 time.

    *****the last 5.5 was in a game in Petco between these same Giants who were throwing Johnathan Sanchez and the Padres were throwing I believe it was Mat Latos.

     

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    Well there was a 5.5 just about a week ago.  I just think that too many people are squating on the low number.  Day game in SF which is a pitchers park but the ball tends to travel better in the daylight.  I mean 2 bloops and and a blast by both sides and you lost.  Can Ubaldo continue to do what he is doing?  I say no cause it has never been done in baseball.  He had a visit to AT & T last season where the Giants lit him up.  Every top flight starter has at least 1 bad game and he is yet to have it.  He is living on borrowed time as I do not think he can really believe he is going to go all season w/o getting roughed up at least 1 time.

    *****the last 5.5 was in a game in Petco between these same Giants who were throwing Johnathan Sanchez and the Padres were throwing I believe it was Mat Latos.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:33 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Dith:

    if you would HAMMER the over 5.5...why no love for the over 6? if you love over 5.5 you need at least 6 runs...if they score 6 you cant lose on the over 6.

     

    I win with 6 runs at 5.5 and need 7 to win at 6...hey,I said if Lincecum is throwing strikes,I would have to say this goes under the total. BUT 5.5 is an OVER bet because 5.5 is just CRAZY !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dith:

    if you would HAMMER the over 5.5...why no love for the over 6? if you love over 5.5 you need at least 6 runs...if they score 6 you cant lose on the over 6.

     

    I win with 6 runs at 5.5 and need 7 to win at 6...hey,I said if Lincecum is throwing strikes,I would have to say this goes under the total. BUT 5.5 is an OVER bet because 5.5 is just CRAZY !
     
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    There's no reason to playing mr brave here... with those 2 in the mound, both teams have a solid bullpen, giants can't score, T & T Park (pitchers park)... we under backers will only need one of those horses to have a good outing which is the most likely to happen, take note that under is 20-1 in national league games with the total set less than 7 with the only one loss coming when the 7th run scored with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

    Even if Lincecum doesn't have it tonight he still very likely will give you a QS... but he knows that his team can't score and he's facing Ubaldo with that insane under 1.00 ERA and there's no room for mistake.

    IMO under is the only play here. Do it or pass.

    GL to all, give me the under even if it's 5.5
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    There's no reason to playing mr brave here... with those 2 in the mound, both teams have a solid bullpen, giants can't score, T & T Park (pitchers park)... we under backers will only need one of those horses to have a good outing which is the most likely to happen, take note that under is 20-1 in national league games with the total set less than 7 with the only one loss coming when the 7th run scored with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

    Even if Lincecum doesn't have it tonight he still very likely will give you a QS... but he knows that his team can't score and he's facing Ubaldo with that insane under 1.00 ERA and there's no room for mistake.

    IMO under is the only play here. Do it or pass.

    GL to all, give me the under even if it's 5.5
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:40 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by jovancito:

    There's no reason to playing mr brave here... with those 2 in the mound, both teams have a solid bullpen, giants can't score, T & T Park (pitchers park)... we under backers will only need one of those horses to have a good outing which is the most likely to happen, take note that under is 20-1 in national league games with the total set less than 7 with the only one loss coming when the 7th run scored with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

    Even if Lincecum doesn't have it tonight he still very likely will give you a QS... but he knows that his team can't score and he's facing Ubaldo with that insane under 1.00 ERA and there's no room for mistake.

    IMO under is the only play here. Do it or pass.

    GL to all, give me the under even if it's 5.5
    You are probably right on here dude.Fuck it, why overthink this shit ! Find the 6 some place and bet the under.KISS rule in effect(keep it simple stupid).

    UNDER 6 is the play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovancito:

    There's no reason to playing mr brave here... with those 2 in the mound, both teams have a solid bullpen, giants can't score, T & T Park (pitchers park)... we under backers will only need one of those horses to have a good outing which is the most likely to happen, take note that under is 20-1 in national league games with the total set less than 7 with the only one loss coming when the 7th run scored with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

    Even if Lincecum doesn't have it tonight he still very likely will give you a QS... but he knows that his team can't score and he's facing Ubaldo with that insane under 1.00 ERA and there's no room for mistake.

    IMO under is the only play here. Do it or pass.

    GL to all, give me the under even if it's 5.5
    You are probably right on here dude.Fuck it, why overthink this shit ! Find the 6 some place and bet the under.KISS rule in effect(keep it simple stupid).

    UNDER 6 is the play.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:49 AM ET #14

    jova you cannot be serious.  They scored 12 and 6 the last 2 days granted they were not facing good pitching but to say they can not score is a joke.  If you believe that Ubaldo is going all season w/ an under 1 era (which is something not even Cy Young has done) than I think you need to reconsider and if he does I will be the first to say they should rename the CY Young to the Ubaldo Jiminez award.  Your comment on the Giants pen is unmerited as well.  They have some people out there capable of getting outs, but Affeldt has been scored on a number of consecutive outings.  Boche is probably one of the top 5 worst managers in the majors. Look back to the gem Lincecum threw against the Giants 9th inning he walked 1 batter and cost you all the under by bringing in one of the biggest flame throwing gas cans in the majors in Brian Wilson.  If he can throw it by you he succeeds if you are amped up for it he is awful hittable.  If I were to play it which I am not sure I will I have to play the over.  If the lineups work the count and get the pitchers out early I think we can get 6 in the middle innings.  A tired Ubaldo or Timmy gives up 2 consecutive singles and a reliever comes in and makes 1 mistake that leaves the park you have hlaf your total.  Good Luck either way you go but think its hard to go under wait for ump who also might have a say in the outcome.
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    jova you cannot be serious.  They scored 12 and 6 the last 2 days granted they were not facing good pitching but to say they can not score is a joke.  If you believe that Ubaldo is going all season w/ an under 1 era (which is something not even Cy Young has done) than I think you need to reconsider and if he does I will be the first to say they should rename the CY Young to the Ubaldo Jiminez award.  Your comment on the Giants pen is unmerited as well.  They have some people out there capable of getting outs, but Affeldt has been scored on a number of consecutive outings.  Boche is probably one of the top 5 worst managers in the majors. Look back to the gem Lincecum threw against the Giants 9th inning he walked 1 batter and cost you all the under by bringing in one of the biggest flame throwing gas cans in the majors in Brian Wilson.  If he can throw it by you he succeeds if you are amped up for it he is awful hittable.  If I were to play it which I am not sure I will I have to play the over.  If the lineups work the count and get the pitchers out early I think we can get 6 in the middle innings.  A tired Ubaldo or Timmy gives up 2 consecutive singles and a reliever comes in and makes 1 mistake that leaves the park you have hlaf your total.  Good Luck either way you go but think its hard to go under wait for ump who also might have a say in the outcome.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:52 AM ET #15

    oh and do you forget the game in an even more of a pitchers park Petco between 2 mediocre lineups w/ 2 likewise solid starters in Latos and Sanchez and the number was 6?  The total ended up being 7-6 so I do not know where you got that stat from either bro
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    oh and do you forget the game in an even more of a pitchers park Petco between 2 mediocre lineups w/ 2 likewise solid starters in Latos and Sanchez and the number was 6?  The total ended up being 7-6 so I do not know where you got that stat from either bro
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:53 AM ET #16

    3-2 and a blown save and you lose your play.
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    3-2 and a blown save and you lose your play.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:56 AM ET #17

    when i did say that Ubaldo is going under 1.00 ERA for the year?

    I'll take my chances with this under, Lincecum ERA is 1.78 at day games also.

    This is not a lock, but i think that it's the most likely to happen. GL
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    when i did say that Ubaldo is going under 1.00 ERA for the year?

    I'll take my chances with this under, Lincecum ERA is 1.78 at day games also.

    This is not a lock, but i think that it's the most likely to happen. GL
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:58 AM ET #18

    Last years head to head stats"

    Timmy win at home 2-0.

    Timmy loses away 4-2

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    Timmy loses away 4-2

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:59 AM ET #19

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    go against systat in this one.. i'll hate to go against him as ridiculous as he has been...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovancito:

    There's no reason to playing mr brave here... with those 2 in the mound, both teams have a solid bullpen, giants can't score, T & T Park (pitchers park)... we under backers will only need one of those horses to have a good outing which is the most likely to happen, take note that under is 20-1 in national league games with the total set less than 7 with the only one loss coming when the 7th run scored with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

    Even if Lincecum doesn't have it tonight he still very likely will give you a QS... but he knows that his team can't score and he's facing Ubaldo with that insane under 1.00 ERA and there's no room for mistake.

    IMO under is the only play here. Do it or pass.

    GL to all, give me the under even if it's 5.5
    On May 18 Giants @ Padres was set at 6 and I took under and got Burned with a 7-6 final. Nats @ Padres was at 6.5 on Friday and it ended 5-3 and I had taken under again.
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    There's no reason to playing mr brave here... with those 2 in the mound, both teams have a solid bullpen, giants can't score, T & T Park (pitchers park)... we under backers will only need one of those horses to have a good outing which is the most likely to happen, take note that under is 20-1 in national league games with the total set less than 7 with the only one loss coming when the 7th run scored with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

    Even if Lincecum doesn't have it tonight he still very likely will give you a QS... but he knows that his team can't score and he's facing Ubaldo with that insane under 1.00 ERA and there's no room for mistake.

    IMO under is the only play here. Do it or pass.

    GL to all, give me the under even if it's 5.5
    On May 18 Giants @ Padres was set at 6 and I took under and got Burned with a 7-6 final. Nats @ Padres was at 6.5 on Friday and it ended 5-3 and I had taken under again.
     
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    Colorado and Under
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    5.5 at BOOKMAKER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quad_17:

    On May 18 Giants @ Padres was set at 6 and I took under and got Burned with a 7-6 final. Nats @ Padres was at 6.5 on Friday and it ended 5-3 and I had taken under again.


    I'll say that you're going against 2 of the better pitchers in the NL, good work if you win but imo there are more easy games for betting over.
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    On May 18 Giants @ Padres was set at 6 and I took under and got Burned with a 7-6 final. Nats @ Padres was at 6.5 on Friday and it ended 5-3 and I had taken under again.


    I'll say that you're going against 2 of the better pitchers in the NL, good work if you win but imo there are more easy games for betting over.
     
     
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    my book has 5.5 (over -120_

     

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