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    MLB 5/05/16 Cinco de Mayo Steak Burritos

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    KeyElement
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 8:44 AM ET #1

    MLB – 2016

    32-25, $ +1,687.57, +14.8% RoR

    5/05 Flat $200.00 

    Rangers +153, Holland/Happ

    Nationals +134, Ross/Hendricks

    As long as bettors get their feet wet in college foots and buckets, which most do, we will have them over valuing HFA in MLB. There are a lot of reasons they have that impression, some valid, some not. College football and basketball players, especially freshmen, are not accustomed to a lot of travel. Hotels, different meals, large intimidating crowds etc., all have impact, and it is not an easy thing to get over. MLB players by contrast are from a culture where they played 70 to 80 games per spring-summer in their high school and summer leagues and some even slightly more in college. Then there is the grind of minor league ball, perhaps with several different teams and no place really feels like “home”. The main concerns through all that is that your pitchers want to check out the mound for elevation and slope, and your position players want to check out fence distances, fair and foul both, and the general condition of the playing surface, but they see so many fields on the way up, and conditions are so near perfect in the majors, that most of that loses significance. They have eaten everything from Taco Bell to French Gourmet and slept in everything from Motel 6 to the Hyatt Regency. No big deal, no problem. Long story short: Do not pay 20 to 40 cents on the line for an advantage that is usually not worth more than a nickel (at best).

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    MLB – 2016

    32-25, $ +1,687.57, +14.8% RoR

    5/05 Flat $200.00 

    Rangers +153, Holland/Happ

    Nationals +134, Ross/Hendricks

    As long as bettors get their feet wet in college foots and buckets, which most do, we will have them over valuing HFA in MLB. There are a lot of reasons they have that impression, some valid, some not. College football and basketball players, especially freshmen, are not accustomed to a lot of travel. Hotels, different meals, large intimidating crowds etc., all have impact, and it is not an easy thing to get over. MLB players by contrast are from a culture where they played 70 to 80 games per spring-summer in their high school and summer leagues and some even slightly more in college. Then there is the grind of minor league ball, perhaps with several different teams and no place really feels like “home”. The main concerns through all that is that your pitchers want to check out the mound for elevation and slope, and your position players want to check out fence distances, fair and foul both, and the general condition of the playing surface, but they see so many fields on the way up, and conditions are so near perfect in the majors, that most of that loses significance. They have eaten everything from Taco Bell to French Gourmet and slept in everything from Motel 6 to the Hyatt Regency. No big deal, no problem. Long story short: Do not pay 20 to 40 cents on the line for an advantage that is usually not worth more than a nickel (at best).

    BOL  

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 8:54 AM ET #2

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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 8:55 AM ET #3




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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:09 AM ET #4

    Have to go against you on Texas today.
    The Blue Jays have a little more incentive here.
    This is the 4th game, of a 4-game series, with the Jays leading so far, 2-1.
    Toronto gets it done, to go 3-1, and thereby get the "series win", while on the other hand, the most Texas hopes to accomplish is a 2-2 "series tie".
    Also, Texas is 1-6 in their L7 on the road, including 1-5 in their L6 when playing Toronto.
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    Have to go against you on Texas today.
    The Blue Jays have a little more incentive here.
    This is the 4th game, of a 4-game series, with the Jays leading so far, 2-1.
    Toronto gets it done, to go 3-1, and thereby get the "series win", while on the other hand, the most Texas hopes to accomplish is a 2-2 "series tie".
    Also, Texas is 1-6 in their L7 on the road, including 1-5 in their L6 when playing Toronto.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:14 AM ET #5

    just a note: there is nothing wrong with eating Taco Bell!  Something about that grade D beef that calls my name!!! 
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    just a note: there is nothing wrong with eating Taco Bell!  Something about that grade D beef that calls my name!!! 
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:43 AM ET #6

    People are still under the impression that the Jays hit lefties well...last year yes, this year no.

    I'm a fan of all 4 pitchers on your 2 plays.

    GL today Sir
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    People are still under the impression that the Jays hit lefties well...last year yes, this year no.

    I'm a fan of all 4 pitchers on your 2 plays.

    GL today Sir
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:51 AM ET #7

    GL Element 
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 10:44 AM ET #9

    Good Luck Key 
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 10:51 AM ET #10

    With you on the Rangers today Key. That seems to be an awful good price for what should be a close game.
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    With you on the Rangers today Key. That seems to be an awful good price for what should be a close game.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 11:41 AM ET #11



       
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 12:33 PM ET #12

    Im on both those plays myself, BOL Key
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    Im on both those plays myself, BOL Key
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 12:57 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Kimbu:

    just a note: there is nothing wrong with eating Taco Bell!  Something about that grade D beef that calls my name!!! 
    The guys that play their AAA ball at Omaha on the way to Kansas City get to eat at Taco John's. You never heard of a Royals player with constipation have you? That stuff is is a lifetime cure.
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimbu:

    just a note: there is nothing wrong with eating Taco Bell!  Something about that grade D beef that calls my name!!! 
    The guys that play their AAA ball at Omaha on the way to Kansas City get to eat at Taco John's. You never heard of a Royals player with constipation have you? That stuff is is a lifetime cure.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 1:08 PM ET #14

    Hey Key,

    what do you think about the under in the texas game. I cant see why under is not a play...
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    Hey Key,

    what do you think about the under in the texas game. I cant see why under is not a play...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by alekim:

    Hey Key,

    what do you think about the under in the texas game. I cant see why under is not a play...
    For one thing you have Stan Barber behind the plate who is not a pitchers umpire, then you have two guys that are effective pitchers but not really strikeout pitchers. So, with that ump and these guys in a homer dome I think the under looks pretty shaky. If you play it, BOL 
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    Hey Key,

    what do you think about the under in the texas game. I cant see why under is not a play...
    For one thing you have Stan Barber behind the plate who is not a pitchers umpire, then you have two guys that are effective pitchers but not really strikeout pitchers. So, with that ump and these guys in a homer dome I think the under looks pretty shaky. If you play it, BOL 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    For one thing you have Stan Barber behind the plate who is not a pitchers umpire, then you have two guys that are effective pitchers but not really strikeout pitchers. So, with that ump and these guys in a homer dome I think the under looks pretty shaky. If you play it, BOL 

    I might take it at 9. Thanks  
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    For one thing you have Stan Barber behind the plate who is not a pitchers umpire, then you have two guys that are effective pitchers but not really strikeout pitchers. So, with that ump and these guys in a homer dome I think the under looks pretty shaky. If you play it, BOL 

    I might take it at 9. Thanks  
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 2:24 PM ET #18

    I agree with Key Element, but I have to add some teams some years statistically have a really big home field advantage. I think in baseball confidence or lack there of gets in players heads and winning or losing become a self fulfilling prophecy.

    However Key is picking two teams that are overvalued at home, at least this year. Toronto killed teams at home last year but not so far this year. Cubs winning percentage is great where ever they this year BUT this is their worst starter going up against Ross who is off to a great start. Bettors might think Cubs have a huge home field advantage but their record the last two years doesn't show it.



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    I agree with Key Element, but I have to add some teams some years statistically have a really big home field advantage. I think in baseball confidence or lack there of gets in players heads and winning or losing become a self fulfilling prophecy.

    However Key is picking two teams that are overvalued at home, at least this year. Toronto killed teams at home last year but not so far this year. Cubs winning percentage is great where ever they this year BUT this is their worst starter going up against Ross who is off to a great start. Bettors might think Cubs have a huge home field advantage but their record the last two years doesn't show it.



     
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    No to include you, lordzud, since you seem to have a grasp of the situation, but most folks don't. As of this morning home teams were 199-210, and if you eliminate the Braves shameful 1-11 they are still only 198-199. There are some radically different records this early in the season and some are downright deceptive. Toronto is a no big deal either way, Washington and Chicago actually have better road records than home, and the Rangers will not go 54-27 at home and 31-50 at home. What happens is that winners win on the road and losers  lose at home, but home field has almost nothing to do with it. In over 30 years in the game I can honestly say I never heard a team say "We would have won that game AT HOME" or say "We would have lost that game ON THE ROAD". When managers, coaches or players say "It is so tough to win on the road" what they are really doing is using an old cliche built in excuse for losing.. 

    The only real concession to home field advantage is that most teams are built with their home park in mind. It helps a little if you have a power team in a hitter's park, or a great staff in a pitchers's park, but at the end of the season you will notice two similarities in the teams that make the playoffs. 1) Win on the road, and 2( Beat right handed pitching. 
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    No to include you, lordzud, since you seem to have a grasp of the situation, but most folks don't. As of this morning home teams were 199-210, and if you eliminate the Braves shameful 1-11 they are still only 198-199. There are some radically different records this early in the season and some are downright deceptive. Toronto is a no big deal either way, Washington and Chicago actually have better road records than home, and the Rangers will not go 54-27 at home and 31-50 at home. What happens is that winners win on the road and losers  lose at home, but home field has almost nothing to do with it. In over 30 years in the game I can honestly say I never heard a team say "We would have won that game AT HOME" or say "We would have lost that game ON THE ROAD". When managers, coaches or players say "It is so tough to win on the road" what they are really doing is using an old cliche built in excuse for losing.. 

    The only real concession to home field advantage is that most teams are built with their home park in mind. It helps a little if you have a power team in a hitter's park, or a great staff in a pitchers's park, but at the end of the season you will notice two similarities in the teams that make the playoffs. 1) Win on the road, and 2( Beat right handed pitching. 
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 3:16 PM ET #20

    Rangers will not go 54-27 at home and 31-50 on the road
    Sorry about that
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    Rangers will not go 54-27 at home and 31-50 on the road
    Sorry about that
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 5:06 PM ET #21

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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 5:08 PM ET #22

    1st time in MLB history
    that four 1st place teams are all p[laying
    in the same city on the same day... Chgo.

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    1st time in MLB history
    that four 1st place teams are all p[laying
    in the same city on the same day... Chgo.

     
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    Key where does your probability lie with Arizona tonight? They are +128ish on the ml and (maybe more intriguingly) they are +100 on their team total over 3.5. They have been crushing left handed pitching this year and are facing a young guy prone to wildness coming off a 114 pitch outing. 

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    Key where does your probability lie with Arizona tonight? They are +128ish on the ml and (maybe more intriguingly) they are +100 on their team total over 3.5. They have been crushing left handed pitching this year and are facing a young guy prone to wildness coming off a 114 pitch outing. 

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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 5:20 PM ET #24

    Oh, and that strange fact for today even incl. Oak = SF & Balt = DC
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 5:35 PM ET #25

    Key forgot to mention that the roof is open it's hot and the wind appears to be blowing out. I know AC has great stuff but how do we not get 4 runs for the dbacks here?
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