Pirates: In the
public eye Cole is still under valued and Leake is over valued. There is a
world of difference between the two and the Pirates match up offense holds an
edge as well.
Royals: I thought
Joe Saunders would be the go-against guy of the year but Lucas Harrell is an
even better proposition. The Royals are bound to bounce back and the Astros are
making progress, but it will never show with Harrell on the hill.
Mets: I said the Diamondbacks
were going to suck even before Corbin went down and now they are stuck with
starting five guys that are all below major league average. Miley is the best
of the lot and even he is only carrying a 66.6 rating versus an MLB average of
67.1. Arroyo is qualified to be a 5 on any other staff and he comes in at 64.6,
a #2 in Arizona.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Pirates: In the
public eye Cole is still under valued and Leake is over valued. There is a
world of difference between the two and the Pirates match up offense holds an
edge as well.
Royals: I thought
Joe Saunders would be the go-against guy of the year but Lucas Harrell is an
even better proposition. The Royals are bound to bounce back and the Astros are
making progress, but it will never show with Harrell on the hill.
Mets: I said the Diamondbacks
were going to suck even before Corbin went down and now they are stuck with
starting five guys that are all below major league average. Miley is the best
of the lot and even he is only carrying a 66.6 rating versus an MLB average of
67.1. Arroyo is qualified to be a 5 on any other staff and he comes in at 64.6,
a #2 in Arizona.
Surprised to see the Mets on your card. Mejia has been a fade on the road, while Arroyo has done well against the swing happy New Yorkers. Not questioning you at all, just surprised. Good luck Key.
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Surprised to see the Mets on your card. Mejia has been a fade on the road, while Arroyo has done well against the swing happy New Yorkers. Not questioning you at all, just surprised. Good luck Key.
Jose - I honestly think this is the year Mejia gets his s**t together. As for Arroyo. I actually admire the guy, career wise. Until this year he had never missed a start from Little League through major league and that is downright remarkable. No DL, no whining or complaining, just go do your job, day after day, year after year. It is almost surprising when guys like that hit the end of the road, but I think Arroyo is there and the fall from grace will come quickly. jmho.
gabe0425 - This thread is a little different than what you are used to on Covers, or most of the web for that matter. We do not bash or insult people because their opinion is different or they are not quite as familiar with a given teams performance as another poster is. Try it, you might like it. Just state your contrarian opinion and let others discuss it. Thank you.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Jose - I honestly think this is the year Mejia gets his s**t together. As for Arroyo. I actually admire the guy, career wise. Until this year he had never missed a start from Little League through major league and that is downright remarkable. No DL, no whining or complaining, just go do your job, day after day, year after year. It is almost surprising when guys like that hit the end of the road, but I think Arroyo is there and the fall from grace will come quickly. jmho.
gabe0425 - This thread is a little different than what you are used to on Covers, or most of the web for that matter. We do not bash or insult people because their opinion is different or they are not quite as familiar with a given teams performance as another poster is. Try it, you might like it. Just state your contrarian opinion and let others discuss it. Thank you.
sorry for ignorance,i dont follow or bet baseball key element but hear good stuff about you buddy,so will tail for a bit of fun,hope i dont jinx you....with the 1st 5 plays,is it to be ahead outright after 5??or is the bet a push if its tied??and just the pitcher of selected team must be a go?or both listed pitchers??...thanks for your help.
wat sort of profit have you turned in a full season key element??...great start so far
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sorry for ignorance,i dont follow or bet baseball key element but hear good stuff about you buddy,so will tail for a bit of fun,hope i dont jinx you....with the 1st 5 plays,is it to be ahead outright after 5??or is the bet a push if its tied??and just the pitcher of selected team must be a go?or both listed pitchers??...thanks for your help.
wat sort of profit have you turned in a full season key element??...great start so far
sorry for ignorance,i dont follow or bet baseball key element but hear good stuff about you buddy,so will tail for a bit of fun,hope i dont jinx you....with the 1st 5 plays,is it to be ahead outright after 5??or is the bet a push if its tied??and just the pitcher of selected team must be a go?or both listed pitchers??...thanks for your help.
wat sort of profit have you turned in a full season key element??...great start so far
It's who is ahead after the full 5. Also, ML F5's are graded as a push if it is tied. As for his records it is posted in the first post.
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
sorry for ignorance,i dont follow or bet baseball key element but hear good stuff about you buddy,so will tail for a bit of fun,hope i dont jinx you....with the 1st 5 plays,is it to be ahead outright after 5??or is the bet a push if its tied??and just the pitcher of selected team must be a go?or both listed pitchers??...thanks for your help.
wat sort of profit have you turned in a full season key element??...great start so far
It's who is ahead after the full 5. Also, ML F5's are graded as a push if it is tied. As for his records it is posted in the first post.
Royals: I thought Joe Saunders would be the go-against guy of the year but Lucas Harrell is an even better proposition. The Royals are bound to bounce back and the Astros are making progress, but it will never show with Harrell on the hill.
Key, Harrell's stats may be bad, but they were crappy last year too and his best game last year came against these Royals, whom he shut down for 7 innings. The Royals (so far) suck on the road (batting .189 and having scored just 8 runs in 5 full games)). Now Houston at home has been much better, scoring 20 runs in 7 games. I expect Ventura to shut the Astros down for 5 innings, but I also don't see the Royals getting hot all of a sudden against a guy who did shut them down the last time he faced them. I don't think these offenses are capable of getting 4 1/2 runs in 5 innings. Under 4.5 at -110 seems to be a much better prospect in this game.
Good luck
Money is a good servant, but a bad master
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Royals: I thought Joe Saunders would be the go-against guy of the year but Lucas Harrell is an even better proposition. The Royals are bound to bounce back and the Astros are making progress, but it will never show with Harrell on the hill.
Key, Harrell's stats may be bad, but they were crappy last year too and his best game last year came against these Royals, whom he shut down for 7 innings. The Royals (so far) suck on the road (batting .189 and having scored just 8 runs in 5 full games)). Now Houston at home has been much better, scoring 20 runs in 7 games. I expect Ventura to shut the Astros down for 5 innings, but I also don't see the Royals getting hot all of a sudden against a guy who did shut them down the last time he faced them. I don't think these offenses are capable of getting 4 1/2 runs in 5 innings. Under 4.5 at -110 seems to be a much better prospect in this game.
Hope you're right with Mejia. He doesn't have a ton of pressure to figure it out just yet, but he soon will with all the young arms the Mets have. Couldn't agree more regarding the "Frisbee." Incredible durability, and a great athlete. Thanks for the reply and good luck tonight.
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Hope you're right with Mejia. He doesn't have a ton of pressure to figure it out just yet, but he soon will with all the young arms the Mets have. Couldn't agree more regarding the "Frisbee." Incredible durability, and a great athlete. Thanks for the reply and good luck tonight.
Royals: I thought Joe Saunders would be the go-against guy of the year but Lucas Harrell is an even better proposition. The Royals are bound to bounce back and the Astros are making progress, but it will never show with Harrell on the hill.
Key, Harrell's stats may be bad, but they were crappy last year too and his best game last year came against these Royals, whom he shut down for 7 innings. The Royals (so far) suck on the road (batting .189 and having scored just 8 runs in 5 full games)). Now Houston at home has been much better, scoring 20 runs in 7 games. I expect Ventura to shut the Astros down for 5 innings, but I also don't see the Royals getting hot all of a sudden against a guy who did shut them down the last time he faced them. I don't think these offenses are capable of getting 4 1/2 runs in 5 innings. Under 4.5 at -110 seems to be a much better prospect in this game.
Good luck
I am on this same play, as are a lot of people I am sure are on KC in some form or fashion. Like your reasoning on the under, I don't think Houston will score more than 1 on Ventura which would leave KC needing 4 and they havent been a juggernaut. However this years version, albeit in a small sample size, of Harrell looks substantially worse than last years version that got him sent to the bullpen. He at least had a few reasonable starts last year and the time around that KC game was a couple of his better ones. Also when looking at last years Royals game adding Omar Infante, Nori Aoki, Lorenzo Cain and Alcides Escobar, and subtracting Chris Getz, David Lough, Jeff Francouer and Elliot Johnson should at least in theory present a more difficult line up for Mr Harrell. I do think it there is a better chance of the Royals lighting up Harrell and pushing the game over, or the old bloop and blast for Houston and a 3-2 KC lead pushes it over, then there is of KC losing after 5. Then again I am lousy with totals and make no bones about it. Good stuff I love reading other viewpoints on games I am playing that have good logical reasoning. Information sharing and giving everybody things to watch for is always beneficial and can help in the long run.
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Quote Originally Posted by lltb43:
Royals: I thought Joe Saunders would be the go-against guy of the year but Lucas Harrell is an even better proposition. The Royals are bound to bounce back and the Astros are making progress, but it will never show with Harrell on the hill.
Key, Harrell's stats may be bad, but they were crappy last year too and his best game last year came against these Royals, whom he shut down for 7 innings. The Royals (so far) suck on the road (batting .189 and having scored just 8 runs in 5 full games)). Now Houston at home has been much better, scoring 20 runs in 7 games. I expect Ventura to shut the Astros down for 5 innings, but I also don't see the Royals getting hot all of a sudden against a guy who did shut them down the last time he faced them. I don't think these offenses are capable of getting 4 1/2 runs in 5 innings. Under 4.5 at -110 seems to be a much better prospect in this game.
Good luck
I am on this same play, as are a lot of people I am sure are on KC in some form or fashion. Like your reasoning on the under, I don't think Houston will score more than 1 on Ventura which would leave KC needing 4 and they havent been a juggernaut. However this years version, albeit in a small sample size, of Harrell looks substantially worse than last years version that got him sent to the bullpen. He at least had a few reasonable starts last year and the time around that KC game was a couple of his better ones. Also when looking at last years Royals game adding Omar Infante, Nori Aoki, Lorenzo Cain and Alcides Escobar, and subtracting Chris Getz, David Lough, Jeff Francouer and Elliot Johnson should at least in theory present a more difficult line up for Mr Harrell. I do think it there is a better chance of the Royals lighting up Harrell and pushing the game over, or the old bloop and blast for Houston and a 3-2 KC lead pushes it over, then there is of KC losing after 5. Then again I am lousy with totals and make no bones about it. Good stuff I love reading other viewpoints on games I am playing that have good logical reasoning. Information sharing and giving everybody things to watch for is always beneficial and can help in the long run.
I posted today very, very early because there was a chance I wouldn't get another chance all day. Back at my desk now.
Iltb43 - I don't really care about prior games unless they are very recent. Last year might as well be ancient history in baseball. That is my opinion and Tiger pointed out a few of the reasons, but even if you had exactly the same lineups under exactly the same circumstances the game would still start 0-0 and both teams wanting to win. Harrell projections are based on his accomplishments in his career, most recent being most important, not on the idea that he had a few good games every once in a while. He is not qualified to be a major league starter and that is all there is to it. I also have little respect for H-A trends. You are what you are. The good ones win on the road and the bad ones lose at home. Pick your venue, Houston, Kansas City, or Mexico City, Ventura still brings a lot more to the table than Harrell.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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I posted today very, very early because there was a chance I wouldn't get another chance all day. Back at my desk now.
Iltb43 - I don't really care about prior games unless they are very recent. Last year might as well be ancient history in baseball. That is my opinion and Tiger pointed out a few of the reasons, but even if you had exactly the same lineups under exactly the same circumstances the game would still start 0-0 and both teams wanting to win. Harrell projections are based on his accomplishments in his career, most recent being most important, not on the idea that he had a few good games every once in a while. He is not qualified to be a major league starter and that is all there is to it. I also have little respect for H-A trends. You are what you are. The good ones win on the road and the bad ones lose at home. Pick your venue, Houston, Kansas City, or Mexico City, Ventura still brings a lot more to the table than Harrell.
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