Thanks Key, just an FYI, don't dignify the hateful reactions with responses. 80% of the people that read your threads appreciate your work and understand you're only going to win slightly above 55% and have a strong ROI. Let the others complain, girl & moan.
I know you're busy, but I'm going to the Rays/Twins game this afternoon and wanted to make a play. Any suggestions on how you'd cap it?
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Thanks Key, just an FYI, don't dignify the hateful reactions with responses. 80% of the people that read your threads appreciate your work and understand you're only going to win slightly above 55% and have a strong ROI. Let the others complain, girl & moan.
I know you're busy, but I'm going to the Rays/Twins game this afternoon and wanted to make a play. Any suggestions on how you'd cap it?
Thanks Key, just an FYI, don't dignify the hateful reactions with responses. 80% of the people that read your threads appreciate your work and understand you're only going to win slightly above 55% and have a strong ROI. Let the others complain, girl & moan.
I know you're busy, but I'm going to the Rays/Twins game this afternoon and wanted to make a play. Any suggestions on how you'd cap it?
I know you're not asking to me, still I think Under 8 is the play for that game. Enjoy
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Quote Originally Posted by SocrAndrew7:
Thanks Key, just an FYI, don't dignify the hateful reactions with responses. 80% of the people that read your threads appreciate your work and understand you're only going to win slightly above 55% and have a strong ROI. Let the others complain, girl & moan.
I know you're busy, but I'm going to the Rays/Twins game this afternoon and wanted to make a play. Any suggestions on how you'd cap it?
I know you're not asking to me, still I think Under 8 is the play for that game. Enjoy
I know you're not asking to me, still I think Under 8 is the play for that game. Enjoy
Appreciate the response though!! I was with you, especially since at 1st glance you would think the total should be closer to 9 when these teams meet but I dug a bit deeper and noticed Santana has pitching much better on the road and price is $$. Still a little scary to bet under 8 when toronto can put up runs in a hurry and now they have Tulo in the lineup too.
I parlayed the Tor w/ Seattle for a +125 type of line. Pretty square play but sometimes they hit right?!?
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Quote Originally Posted by powerbalance:
I know you're not asking to me, still I think Under 8 is the play for that game. Enjoy
Appreciate the response though!! I was with you, especially since at 1st glance you would think the total should be closer to 9 when these teams meet but I dug a bit deeper and noticed Santana has pitching much better on the road and price is $$. Still a little scary to bet under 8 when toronto can put up runs in a hurry and now they have Tulo in the lineup too.
I parlayed the Tor w/ Seattle for a +125 type of line. Pretty square play but sometimes they hit right?!?
Diamondbacks: Play to -133: Tough weekend for the
Nationals @ the Mets but the situation may not get any better today. Going home
cannot be considered an elixir that cures all problems and creates better play
and probability all by itself. The Nats are 5-5 last 10 home games and the
D-bax are 5-5 last 10 and 10-10 last 20 on the road. For the sake of that guy
that thinks I paly too many road teams I will tell him this and we will find
out if he reads the posts or just gripes and moves on. HFA on average is worth
11 cents in true value between two comparable teams. The true value can be as
low as 0 or as high as 20 cents, but the linemakers know that Joe Six Pack
loves his home teams, so the actual built in disadvantage in the line ranges
from 20 to 40 cents. No matter the true value you always over pay for the
comfort of going with the home team, and that is all you are buying, comfort,
not probability. With Godley & the D-bax at 2-0 as a team and the D-bax
producing 4.54 earned offensive runs per 9 since the break, versus righty, and
the Nats 5-9 with Fister (3-4 home) producing 2.82 earned offensive runs per 9,
I fail to see hardly any HFA for the Nats. Obviously the Nats have no prior
experience versus Godley and Fister’s only start versus the D-bax was over 14
months ago, so a any trends or “career versus” would be totally irrelevant.
BOL
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Diamondbacks: Play to -133: Tough weekend for the
Nationals @ the Mets but the situation may not get any better today. Going home
cannot be considered an elixir that cures all problems and creates better play
and probability all by itself. The Nats are 5-5 last 10 home games and the
D-bax are 5-5 last 10 and 10-10 last 20 on the road. For the sake of that guy
that thinks I paly too many road teams I will tell him this and we will find
out if he reads the posts or just gripes and moves on. HFA on average is worth
11 cents in true value between two comparable teams. The true value can be as
low as 0 or as high as 20 cents, but the linemakers know that Joe Six Pack
loves his home teams, so the actual built in disadvantage in the line ranges
from 20 to 40 cents. No matter the true value you always over pay for the
comfort of going with the home team, and that is all you are buying, comfort,
not probability. With Godley & the D-bax at 2-0 as a team and the D-bax
producing 4.54 earned offensive runs per 9 since the break, versus righty, and
the Nats 5-9 with Fister (3-4 home) producing 2.82 earned offensive runs per 9,
I fail to see hardly any HFA for the Nats. Obviously the Nats have no prior
experience versus Godley and Fister’s only start versus the D-bax was over 14
months ago, so a any trends or “career versus” would be totally irrelevant.
Rays-Jays, Opinion only: Price is the favorite for some very good
reasons, but is overpriced (no pun intended) to the max. On the other hand
Santana does not impress as a dog, other than taking a flyer on the big bonus bucks.
You guys that lean toward the UNDER may have a good call. Good pitching beats
good offense and deep pocket totals players have already pushed the opener of
8.5 down to 8. My machine says 7.5 from two different angles so I think the
UNDER is the way I would roll. BOL
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Rays-Jays, Opinion only: Price is the favorite for some very good
reasons, but is overpriced (no pun intended) to the max. On the other hand
Santana does not impress as a dog, other than taking a flyer on the big bonus bucks.
You guys that lean toward the UNDER may have a good call. Good pitching beats
good offense and deep pocket totals players have already pushed the opener of
8.5 down to 8. My machine says 7.5 from two different angles so I think the
UNDER is the way I would roll. BOL
Rays-Jays, Opinion only: Price is the favorite for some very good
reasons, but is overpriced (no pun intended) to the max. On the other hand
Santana does not impress as a dog, other than taking a flyer on the big bonus bucks.
You guys that lean toward the UNDER may have a good call. Good pitching beats
good offense and deep pocket totals players have already pushed the opener of
8.5 down to 8. My machine says 7.5 from two different angles so I think the
UNDER is the way I would roll. BOL
Thanx you Key
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Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:
Rays-Jays, Opinion only: Price is the favorite for some very good
reasons, but is overpriced (no pun intended) to the max. On the other hand
Santana does not impress as a dog, other than taking a flyer on the big bonus bucks.
You guys that lean toward the UNDER may have a good call. Good pitching beats
good offense and deep pocket totals players have already pushed the opener of
8.5 down to 8. My machine says 7.5 from two different angles so I think the
UNDER is the way I would roll. BOL
Thanks Key, just an FYI, don't dignify the hateful reactions with responses. 80% of the people that read your threads appreciate your work and understand you're only going to win slightly above 55% and have a strong ROI. Let the others complain, girl & moan.
I know you're busy, but I'm going to the Rays/Twins game this afternoon and wanted to make a play. Any suggestions on how you'd cap it?
I'd say 99% of the people appreciate Key's amazing work. BOL tonight!
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Quote Originally Posted by SocrAndrew7:
Thanks Key, just an FYI, don't dignify the hateful reactions with responses. 80% of the people that read your threads appreciate your work and understand you're only going to win slightly above 55% and have a strong ROI. Let the others complain, girl & moan.
I know you're busy, but I'm going to the Rays/Twins game this afternoon and wanted to make a play. Any suggestions on how you'd cap it?
I'd say 99% of the people appreciate Key's amazing work. BOL tonight!
First of all thank you for your daily picks and analysys, I find them very interesting and useful and a very good base to start from when choosing my bets.
I think it's a great contribution to this community and I think the write ups are always spot on regardless of the final result of the game.
That being said, I was wondering why you always focus on moneylines and never on under/overs (aside from the UNDER lean of the Jays above :)).
Sometimes your feeling of a particular game turns out to be correct, only for the final result to be a L because of a bullpen implosion, a groundball that finds a hole or a fielding error from the third baseman.
I think you would do great by using your ranks and point of view to call unders and overs.
Moreover, I am personally a big fan of betting overs in baseball because once the over hits, you don't have to worry about it anymore, be it the 5th, 6th or 7th inning. From that moment on no matter what happens your bet is a W.
This doesnt happen with ML bets or with the unders: your team can blow a 3 run lead in 5 pitches, or your pitching matchup analysis can be spot on but the under goes to the dogs in the 8th thanks to a bad bullpen performance.
I would like to have your opinion on this and know if you think it would make sense for you to include a couple under/overs in your threads.
Thanks a lot!
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Hey Key,
First of all thank you for your daily picks and analysys, I find them very interesting and useful and a very good base to start from when choosing my bets.
I think it's a great contribution to this community and I think the write ups are always spot on regardless of the final result of the game.
That being said, I was wondering why you always focus on moneylines and never on under/overs (aside from the UNDER lean of the Jays above :)).
Sometimes your feeling of a particular game turns out to be correct, only for the final result to be a L because of a bullpen implosion, a groundball that finds a hole or a fielding error from the third baseman.
I think you would do great by using your ranks and point of view to call unders and overs.
Moreover, I am personally a big fan of betting overs in baseball because once the over hits, you don't have to worry about it anymore, be it the 5th, 6th or 7th inning. From that moment on no matter what happens your bet is a W.
This doesnt happen with ML bets or with the unders: your team can blow a 3 run lead in 5 pitches, or your pitching matchup analysis can be spot on but the under goes to the dogs in the 8th thanks to a bad bullpen performance.
I would like to have your opinion on this and know if you think it would make sense for you to include a couple under/overs in your threads.
...the Jays players are obviously aware of the fact, that, this is a multi-zillion-$ player they JUST acquired, making his debut with them...
...OBVIOUSLY...HE, would like to win THIS particular game, especially vs a team he does well against, even with FAR LESS potent bats supporting him!!!
...i think that, the "locker room concensus", would be TO NOT have Price "doing his part", and THEM...whom he WILL NOW be "relying -upon" for support..."blowing it for him"!!!
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PLUS...just adding to my "point of view" above...
...the Jays players are obviously aware of the fact, that, this is a multi-zillion-$ player they JUST acquired, making his debut with them...
...OBVIOUSLY...HE, would like to win THIS particular game, especially vs a team he does well against, even with FAR LESS potent bats supporting him!!!
...i think that, the "locker room concensus", would be TO NOT have Price "doing his part", and THEM...whom he WILL NOW be "relying -upon" for support..."blowing it for him"!!!
Diamondbacks: Play to -133: Tough weekend for the
Nationals @ the Mets but the situation may not get any better today. Going home
cannot be considered an elixir that cures all problems and creates better play
and probability all by itself. The Nats are 5-5 last 10 home games and the
D-bax are 5-5 last 10 and 10-10 last 20 on the road. For the sake of that guy
that thinks I paly too many road teams I will tell him this and we will find
out if he reads the posts or just gripes and moves on. HFA on average is worth
11 cents in true value between two comparable teams. The true value can be as
low as 0 or as high as 20 cents, but the linemakers know that Joe Six Pack
loves his home teams, so the actual built in disadvantage in the line ranges
from 20 to 40 cents. No matter the true value you always over pay for the
comfort of going with the home team, and that is all you are buying, comfort,
not probability. With Godley & the D-bax at 2-0 as a team and the D-bax
producing 4.54 earned offensive runs per 9 since the break, versus righty, and
the Nats 5-9 with Fister (3-4 home) producing 2.82 earned offensive runs per 9,
I fail to see hardly any HFA for the Nats. Obviously the Nats have no prior
experience versus Godley and Fister’s only start versus the D-bax was over 14
months ago, so a any trends or “career versus” would be totally irrelevant.
BOL
Is A.J.Pollock in lineup? he was out yesterday. I'd love to pick this but his absence will deter me.
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Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:
Diamondbacks: Play to -133: Tough weekend for the
Nationals @ the Mets but the situation may not get any better today. Going home
cannot be considered an elixir that cures all problems and creates better play
and probability all by itself. The Nats are 5-5 last 10 home games and the
D-bax are 5-5 last 10 and 10-10 last 20 on the road. For the sake of that guy
that thinks I paly too many road teams I will tell him this and we will find
out if he reads the posts or just gripes and moves on. HFA on average is worth
11 cents in true value between two comparable teams. The true value can be as
low as 0 or as high as 20 cents, but the linemakers know that Joe Six Pack
loves his home teams, so the actual built in disadvantage in the line ranges
from 20 to 40 cents. No matter the true value you always over pay for the
comfort of going with the home team, and that is all you are buying, comfort,
not probability. With Godley & the D-bax at 2-0 as a team and the D-bax
producing 4.54 earned offensive runs per 9 since the break, versus righty, and
the Nats 5-9 with Fister (3-4 home) producing 2.82 earned offensive runs per 9,
I fail to see hardly any HFA for the Nats. Obviously the Nats have no prior
experience versus Godley and Fister’s only start versus the D-bax was over 14
months ago, so a any trends or “career versus” would be totally irrelevant.
BOL
Is A.J.Pollock in lineup? he was out yesterday. I'd love to pick this but his absence will deter me.
I am surprised by your under in the Jays game.As an avid watcher of the Jays I have perceived a much different approach by their hitters.I was very surprised by them vs the KC pitching staff.There is almost no easy outs in this lineup and Minny does not compare to KC.
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I am surprised by your under in the Jays game.As an avid watcher of the Jays I have perceived a much different approach by their hitters.I was very surprised by them vs the KC pitching staff.There is almost no easy outs in this lineup and Minny does not compare to KC.
There are several posts worthy of response, the points or questions being addressed in a gentlemanly manner, not with just a "you're an idiot" attitude. Rather than bounce in and out I will type up one response post and put it up. A DISCUSSION THREAD is fine, and if the trolls show up, PLEASE, just ignore them, no responses.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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There are several posts worthy of response, the points or questions being addressed in a gentlemanly manner, not with just a "you're an idiot" attitude. Rather than bounce in and out I will type up one response post and put it up. A DISCUSSION THREAD is fine, and if the trolls show up, PLEASE, just ignore them, no responses.
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