The MLB is a joke man. I remember the good old days where "hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do" in all sports. Nowadays good pitchers get shelled, crappy 7 era pitchers pitch shut outs, teams routinely blow 7 run leads, and no bullpen can pitch a solid 7th 8th and 9th inning with 0 runs scored. It's truly pathetic maybe I'm just a bitter unders bettor tho
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The MLB is a joke man. I remember the good old days where "hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do" in all sports. Nowadays good pitchers get shelled, crappy 7 era pitchers pitch shut outs, teams routinely blow 7 run leads, and no bullpen can pitch a solid 7th 8th and 9th inning with 0 runs scored. It's truly pathetic maybe I'm just a bitter unders bettor tho
No bullpens whatsoever. 7 runs already allowed in the first game y the bullpens and another 4 in another one. It doesn't make sense paying as much as the pitchers get paid for what we as the viewers/fans get from it. Only the stupid can enjoy a game where there is no more pitching and all the teams look alike after the fifth inning
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No bullpens whatsoever. 7 runs already allowed in the first game y the bullpens and another 4 in another one. It doesn't make sense paying as much as the pitchers get paid for what we as the viewers/fans get from it. Only the stupid can enjoy a game where there is no more pitching and all the teams look alike after the fifth inning
And the league is working hard to expand 2 more teams. It makes sense in a lot of ways (logistics) but.... that may just expand the length of the season just as well.
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And the league is working hard to expand 2 more teams. It makes sense in a lot of ways (logistics) but.... that may just expand the length of the season just as well.
No bullpens whatsoever. 7 runs already allowed in the first game y the bullpens and another 4 in another one. It doesn't make sense paying as much as the pitchers get paid for what we as the viewers/fans get from it. Only the stupid can enjoy a game where there is no more pitching and all the teams look alike after the fifth inning
I love that sentence
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Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSumGames:
No bullpens whatsoever. 7 runs already allowed in the first game y the bullpens and another 4 in another one. It doesn't make sense paying as much as the pitchers get paid for what we as the viewers/fans get from it. Only the stupid can enjoy a game where there is no more pitching and all the teams look alike after the fifth inning
And the league is working hard to expand 2 more teams. It makes sense in a lot of ways (logistics) but.... that may just expand the length of the season just as well.
Expansion is absolutely the worst idea ever. The talent pool is this sport is already grossly depleted. I don't need to see more sub .200 hitters and high ERA pitchers on major league rosters. Contraction makes much more sense.
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Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:
And the league is working hard to expand 2 more teams. It makes sense in a lot of ways (logistics) but.... that may just expand the length of the season just as well.
Expansion is absolutely the worst idea ever. The talent pool is this sport is already grossly depleted. I don't need to see more sub .200 hitters and high ERA pitchers on major league rosters. Contraction makes much more sense.
The contraction will happen sided by side with the reduction of the number of the morons among the spectators. By what I have witnessed in recent years - that is not going happen in our lifetime. The situation is going to be worsened. Regrettably so - I must say
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The contraction will happen sided by side with the reduction of the number of the morons among the spectators. By what I have witnessed in recent years - that is not going happen in our lifetime. The situation is going to be worsened. Regrettably so - I must say
Marketing (revenue) trumps quality of the product every time in the entertainment industry, which professional sports leagues are a member of. Rotten movies with lots of T&A outsell dramatic classics, and so on.
Expansion is highly questionable but one thing that would improve the game would be the DH in the N.L. That would get rid of 15 or more pitchers immediately. The N.L. has not proved a darn thing with the traditionalist attitude. They don't have superior teams or superior pitching, and they don't have a superior game. Most of those claiming to be "purists" are nothing more than hypocrites. How many of them are "pure" enough to want a return to one platoon football? If you want to see the pitcher bat, does that also mean you want to see your star quarterback playing free safety?
As for expansion, what two major markets that could support an MLB franchise do you see as available? Already, every major market in the country is claimed as marketing territory by one or more franchises. Las Vegas? Oakland, San Francisco, LA Dodgers, Anaheim, San Diego, and Phoenix already think it is theirs. Oklahoma City? Royals and Rangers won't tolerate that. Don't worry about it, just put the DH in the N.L. and roast 15 to 20 careers that shouldn't be happening anyway.
JMHO
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Marketing (revenue) trumps quality of the product every time in the entertainment industry, which professional sports leagues are a member of. Rotten movies with lots of T&A outsell dramatic classics, and so on.
Expansion is highly questionable but one thing that would improve the game would be the DH in the N.L. That would get rid of 15 or more pitchers immediately. The N.L. has not proved a darn thing with the traditionalist attitude. They don't have superior teams or superior pitching, and they don't have a superior game. Most of those claiming to be "purists" are nothing more than hypocrites. How many of them are "pure" enough to want a return to one platoon football? If you want to see the pitcher bat, does that also mean you want to see your star quarterback playing free safety?
As for expansion, what two major markets that could support an MLB franchise do you see as available? Already, every major market in the country is claimed as marketing territory by one or more franchises. Las Vegas? Oakland, San Francisco, LA Dodgers, Anaheim, San Diego, and Phoenix already think it is theirs. Oklahoma City? Royals and Rangers won't tolerate that. Don't worry about it, just put the DH in the N.L. and roast 15 to 20 careers that shouldn't be happening anyway.
I will add just one more interesting detail here and also would like to ask a question that can explain the mechanics of how what I presume can be implemented in the reality.
Looking at the results yesterday and how certain teams are trying to run the score up today - I can't escape the understanding that all of it is done for the Grand Salami over which is a rare occasion. I just ran the whole season back and was amazed to see how the teams work in unison to hit that over at times. But, the question that keeps bugging me is: how is it done in the reality? Is there a coordinator who coordinates the efforts? Are those the team managers who actually field the pitchers who they know will fail? Are those the pitchers themselves who are masterminding it all? I amazes me to think how well organized is the baseball syndicate and then I remember some publicized fights between the players having grudge for some home runs seasons ago and especially the one when the pitcher tried to prevent the batter to reach home. Is this how rotten it really is?
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I will add just one more interesting detail here and also would like to ask a question that can explain the mechanics of how what I presume can be implemented in the reality.
Looking at the results yesterday and how certain teams are trying to run the score up today - I can't escape the understanding that all of it is done for the Grand Salami over which is a rare occasion. I just ran the whole season back and was amazed to see how the teams work in unison to hit that over at times. But, the question that keeps bugging me is: how is it done in the reality? Is there a coordinator who coordinates the efforts? Are those the team managers who actually field the pitchers who they know will fail? Are those the pitchers themselves who are masterminding it all? I amazes me to think how well organized is the baseball syndicate and then I remember some publicized fights between the players having grudge for some home runs seasons ago and especially the one when the pitcher tried to prevent the batter to reach home. Is this how rotten it really is?
Marketing (revenue) trumps quality of the product every time in the entertainment industry, which professional sports leagues are a member of. Rotten movies with lots of T&A outsell dramatic classics, and so on.
Expansion is highly questionable but one thing that would improve the game would be the DH in the N.L. That would get rid of 15 or more pitchers immediately. The N.L. has not proved a darn thing with the traditionalist attitude. They don't have superior teams or superior pitching, and they don't have a superior game. Most of those claiming to be "purists" are nothing more than hypocrites. How many of them are "pure" enough to want a return to one platoon football? If you want to see the pitcher bat, does that also mean you want to see your star quarterback playing free safety?
As for expansion, what two major markets that could support an MLB franchise do you see as available? Already, every major market in the country is claimed as marketing territory by one or more franchises. Las Vegas? Oakland, San Francisco, LA Dodgers, Anaheim, San Diego, and Phoenix already think it is theirs. Oklahoma City? Royals and Rangers won't tolerate that. Don't worry about it, just put the DH in the N.L. and roast 15 to 20 careers that shouldn't be happening anyway.
JMHO
Couldn't agree more. Three quick points. I hate watching an NL game and they purposely walk or pitch around a guy cuz they know the ninth spot is coming and it's pretty much an automatic out. Secondly, if asked, I'll bet $100 that more than ninety percent of pitchers don't even want to bat. Lastly, it's not just risking injury to a gazillion dollar asset batting......you also run a very real risk of injury running the bases. The DH makes so much sense in so many ways.
No need to outrun the bear...just the next slowest guy
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Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:
Marketing (revenue) trumps quality of the product every time in the entertainment industry, which professional sports leagues are a member of. Rotten movies with lots of T&A outsell dramatic classics, and so on.
Expansion is highly questionable but one thing that would improve the game would be the DH in the N.L. That would get rid of 15 or more pitchers immediately. The N.L. has not proved a darn thing with the traditionalist attitude. They don't have superior teams or superior pitching, and they don't have a superior game. Most of those claiming to be "purists" are nothing more than hypocrites. How many of them are "pure" enough to want a return to one platoon football? If you want to see the pitcher bat, does that also mean you want to see your star quarterback playing free safety?
As for expansion, what two major markets that could support an MLB franchise do you see as available? Already, every major market in the country is claimed as marketing territory by one or more franchises. Las Vegas? Oakland, San Francisco, LA Dodgers, Anaheim, San Diego, and Phoenix already think it is theirs. Oklahoma City? Royals and Rangers won't tolerate that. Don't worry about it, just put the DH in the N.L. and roast 15 to 20 careers that shouldn't be happening anyway.
JMHO
Couldn't agree more. Three quick points. I hate watching an NL game and they purposely walk or pitch around a guy cuz they know the ninth spot is coming and it's pretty much an automatic out. Secondly, if asked, I'll bet $100 that more than ninety percent of pitchers don't even want to bat. Lastly, it's not just risking injury to a gazillion dollar asset batting......you also run a very real risk of injury running the bases. The DH makes so much sense in so many ways.
Hilarious post. Look at history. It's cyclical - even just thisyear, there were periods of unders dominance, though yes....overs have winning overall. Remember when they lowered the pitchers mound? It goes up and down. Relax.
Just remember, the books are always ahead....I mean do you see the lines for the overs? Same thing for the 1st inning yes score props.
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Hilarious post. Look at history. It's cyclical - even just thisyear, there were periods of unders dominance, though yes....overs have winning overall. Remember when they lowered the pitchers mound? It goes up and down. Relax.
Just remember, the books are always ahead....I mean do you see the lines for the overs? Same thing for the 1st inning yes score props.
Cut the season back to 154 and reduce the innings from 9 to 7.It will never happen.Baseball is dead .The kids of today have no patience to watch 4 hours and I can't either.Ratings will slowly go down.They need to make some kind of changes
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Cut the season back to 154 and reduce the innings from 9 to 7.It will never happen.Baseball is dead .The kids of today have no patience to watch 4 hours and I can't either.Ratings will slowly go down.They need to make some kind of changes
Cut the season back to 154 and reduce the innings from 9 to 7.It will never happen.Baseball is dead .The kids of today have no patience to watch 4 hours and I can't either.Ratings will slowly go down.They need to make some kind of changes
You sound like a partner of packers1992. Baseball is dead has been his mantra for 5 or 6 years. Revenues are way up, TV contracts are way up. Souvenir sales are way up. Not bad for a dead sport. George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees for $8 million, now the Marlins are worth a Billion? What is wrong with that equation?
You are another case, like packers1992, of trying to tell billionaire investors they don't know what they are doing.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Quote Originally Posted by ILPRATO:
Cut the season back to 154 and reduce the innings from 9 to 7.It will never happen.Baseball is dead .The kids of today have no patience to watch 4 hours and I can't either.Ratings will slowly go down.They need to make some kind of changes
You sound like a partner of packers1992. Baseball is dead has been his mantra for 5 or 6 years. Revenues are way up, TV contracts are way up. Souvenir sales are way up. Not bad for a dead sport. George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees for $8 million, now the Marlins are worth a Billion? What is wrong with that equation?
You are another case, like packers1992, of trying to tell billionaire investors they don't know what they are doing.
Hilarious post. Look at history. It's cyclical - even just thisyear, there were periods of unders dominance, though yes....overs have winning overall. Remember when they lowered the pitchers mound? It goes up and down. Relax.
Just remember, the books are always ahead....I mean do you see the lines for the overs? Same thing for the 1st inning yes score props.
I don't think you fully comprehend the material in this thread. Zero is not talking about betting or the books here. It is the baseball we are talking about. The non existing or existing delta between the leagues, the pitchers and the length of the season. Books are ahead? Please do not turn it into another gambling related threads as it is refreshing to have some intelligent conversation about the sports we love and grew up with
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Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:
Hilarious post. Look at history. It's cyclical - even just thisyear, there were periods of unders dominance, though yes....overs have winning overall. Remember when they lowered the pitchers mound? It goes up and down. Relax.
Just remember, the books are always ahead....I mean do you see the lines for the overs? Same thing for the 1st inning yes score props.
I don't think you fully comprehend the material in this thread. Zero is not talking about betting or the books here. It is the baseball we are talking about. The non existing or existing delta between the leagues, the pitchers and the length of the season. Books are ahead? Please do not turn it into another gambling related threads as it is refreshing to have some intelligent conversation about the sports we love and grew up with
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maybe I'm just a bitter unders bettor tho
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