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#51
I don't drink the kool aid bra, if you are so concerned, what are you doing on a gambling site, why aren't you out there making a difference?
If you haven't seen this movie, you should
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#55
Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:
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Then please.....feel free to help with some answers.
Or if you have no answers you can always pretend that you never came back to this thread.....Noone will know. 
Very interesting, but what does Part I have to do with 911 cover up?
The multiple explosions? that seems pretty easy to explain, when the plane hit, it caused a huge explosion and fire. Now, what is you house heated with? My house & business are both heated by natural gas. Yes, the kind that explodes when exposed to flame. Seems to make sense that the natuaral gas lines were hit by fire and exploded. The narrarator didn't mention that.
As for the molten metal? I am not a phsysicist, but the amount of heat generated by that much burning mass, could surely melt metal. Just the heat alone from the building falling would be very hot. That is why WTC 7 fell, if it was a conspiricy, why didn't they take down ALL of the buildings.
But maybe it was sabotaged and Thermite was used? Who is not to say the Arabs didn't know about thermite and they themselves placed the thermite? but I still think there was no foul play.
Didn't Nixon finally take us off the Gold Standard?
The director is stretching with the Pearl Harbor talk and Lusitania. No shit there are going to be warnings in the paper, it is WAR TIME!
Vietnam was not good, but it was fought the way it was because we didn't want to have another world war. what the film maker forget sto tell about Vietnam, is that there were multiple pacts between different countries. We didn't want to fight the Chinese, so we tried fighting a POLICE ACTION, not a war. I like how the film maker doesn't even use the term POLICE ACTION, because he probably didn't know what it was. Korea was a POLICE ACTION, but he fails to spin the Korean Conflict into his lies.
I have heard of the RFID chip and the new law for the ID that just passed. I do know they want to implement that chip. but why do they need to kill 3K americans? they don't, they could just hire a popular celebrity to endorse it and it would catch on.
The movie used old 70's movies to try to make its points. not very good film study.
I do not beleive everything the Gov tells me, I also don't believe every wack job who thinks our country is out to get us.
A Movie I reccomend is "The Good Shepard" It is about the creation of the CIA and what gives good insight into what Elites think.
There is a great line when Matt Damon is talking to Joe Pesci about information and Joe ask Matt
"what do you got? The blacks have their music, the italians have their food, the mexicans have their religion, what do you people have?"
And Matt Damon says
"We have this country, and the rest of you are just visiting!"
great fucking line!
And people would do good to go to a third world country and see what it is like to live there. They would be running back to their laptops and ipods in a nano-second.
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#57
Let's just say that your assessment on those points are true for now.
How can these be explained ?
How did they find one of the terrorists passports on the sidewalk ?
Pilots with 30 years exp. say that the second plane was not a passanger plane because it had something on the underbelly and it had no windows on the side ?
How were pillars sheared on an angle just like they are done in pro. demolition ?
Where is there evidence of a plane at the pentagon ?
How does a huge plane fit in the small hole at the pentagon ?
Where is the plane wreckage in Pittsburgh ?
There was about an hour between when they knew there was a sky-jacking and when a so-called plane hit the pentagon..And they couldn't find this plane ?
Was it a coincidence that the owner of the three buildings that went down got huge insurance days earlier based on if they were attacked by terrorists he gets paid 7 billion dollars ?
Why were none of the names of the terrorists that they say were on these planes found on the manifest ?
They showed the pictures of 19 terrorists that took over those planes....How are there 7 of them still alive ?
How can a guy who could barely fly a 2 seat plane hit the pentagon ?
Why did Dick Chaney put himself in charge of AIR DEFENCE early that morning before anything happened ?....First time in history for that to happen.
Why is there no film showing a plane hit the pentagon ? The worlds most secure building has no cameras showing it ?
By the way..Experts say that it is scientifically impossible for a plane that size to do that...let alone a first time flyer do it.
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There is no way that a handful of terrorists that are nutty enough to believe that when they die they are going to have 30 virgins waiting on the other side for them, can pull something like this off without a lot of help from someone.
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#58
Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:
Let's just say that your assessment on those points are true for now.
How can these be explained ?
How did they find one of the terrorists passports on the sidewalk ?
Pilots with 30 years exp. say that the second plane was not a passanger plane because it had something on the underbelly and it had no windows on the side ?
How were pillars sheared on an angle just like they are done in pro. demolition ?
Where is there evidence of a plane at the pentagon ?
How does a huge plane fit in the small hole at the pentagon ?
Where is the plane wreckage in Pittsburgh ?
There was about an hour between when they knew there was a sky-jacking and when a so-called plane hit the pentagon..And they couldn't find this plane ?
Was it a coincidence that the owner of the three buildings that went down got huge insurance days earlier based on if they were attacked by terrorists he gets paid 7 billion dollars ?
Why were none of the names of the terrorists that they say were on these planes found on the manifest ?
They showed the pictures of 19 terrorists that took over those planes....How are there 7 of them still alive ?
How can a guy who could barely fly a 2 seat plane hit the pentagon ?
Why did Dick Chaney put himself in charge of AIR DEFENCE early that morning before anything happened ?....First time in history for that to happen.
Why is there no film showing a plane hit the pentagon ? The worlds most secure building has no cameras showing it ?
By the way..Experts say that it is scientifically impossible for a plane that size to do that...let alone a first time flyer do it.
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There is no way that a handful of terrorists that are nutty enough to believe that when they die they are going to have 30 virgins waiting on the other side for them, can pull something like this off without a lot of help from someone.
Coldsnap, excellent questions that our govt hasnt answered, nor have the non believers that something like this could happen in our country.
Gotta love it, the pentagon is one of the most secure buildings on this planet, yet we have not seen one stinkin clear cut video of a plane hitting the building. Also amazing they never found the engines from the plane, that in itself should tell you something. This was a solid conspiracy done so that we would go to war, so the defense companies could make trillions of dollars off this, along with the oil companies getting fat as fuck. On top of that the govt then gets to use all these terroists acts to take away the freedoms of its own citizens with all these new laws. This was nothing more then a huge power grab to control the people even more then what they already. Dont be shocked when someday the govt takes every gun out of the hands of every citizen. That day is coming and after that happens, they will have the ultimate control over all of us. This isnt paranoia either, its just using common sense and being able to see the forest thru the trees.
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#59
The things that bother me the most is if it wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon or the field in Pittsburgh....Where the hell are the passangers and planes ? Hundreds of people would have to be involved and you would think that someone would eventually admit what happened.
But I can't see anyone answering half of the above questions with anything realistic.
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#60
If you do the research it is fairly obvious those buildings were a demolition. Obviously they were hit by planes. But really you dont even need to bother. The only evidence u need is one thing. One day before sept 11 (sept 10th), the pentagon admits to losing 2.3 Triilion dollars. Thats right trillion. And if u think that kinda money cant buy somethin like 911 your wrong. Not to mention the trillions that have been made in military and reconstruction contracts. You can go look the video up on youtube if u dont believe me. Thats it, thats all you need to know. With this piece of information alone shows that not only did the pentagon know it was gunna happen, but the people who work there were likely involved in the organization of it too.
So suck it up and realize what this country has become. This system has become so crooked that we need to invade other countries and reconstruct them in order for our crooks to sustain themselves. Welcome to the world of hipsters, bankers, ceos, scammers, and globalist profiteerers. They are jsut guys who have gotten good at the game. Just opportunist who have gone unpunished and will continue to do so.
So suck it up and realize what this country has become. This system has become so crooked that we need to invade other countries and reconstruct them in order for our crooks to sustain themselves. Welcome to the world of hipsters, bankers, ceos, scammers, and globalist profiteerers. They are jsut guys who have gotten good at the game. Just opportunist who have gone unpunished and will continue to do so.
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#61
Quote Originally Posted by papsmear:
If you do the research it is fairly obvious those buildings were a demolition. Obviously they were hit by planes. But really you dont even need to bother. The only evidence u need is one thing. One day before sept 11 (sept 10th), the pentagon admits to losing 2.3 Triilion dollars. Thats right trillion. And if u think that kinda money cant buy somethin like 911 your wrong. Not to mention the trillions that have been made in military and reconstruction contracts. You can go look the video up on youtube if u dont believe me. Thats it, thats all you need to know. With this piece of information alone shows that not only did the pentagon know it was gunna happen, but the people who work there were likely involved in the organization of it too.
So suck it up and realize what this country has become. This system has become so crooked that we need to invade other countries and reconstruct them in order for our crooks to sustain themselves. Welcome to the world of hipsters, bankers, ceos, scammers, and globalist profiteerers. They are jsut guys who have gotten good at the game. Just opportunist who have gone unpunished and will continue to do so.
If you do the research it is fairly obvious those buildings were a demolition. Obviously they were hit by planes. But really you dont even need to bother. The only evidence u need is one thing. One day before sept 11 (sept 10th), the pentagon admits to losing 2.3 Triilion dollars. Thats right trillion. And if u think that kinda money cant buy somethin like 911 your wrong. Not to mention the trillions that have been made in military and reconstruction contracts. You can go look the video up on youtube if u dont believe me. Thats it, thats all you need to know. With this piece of information alone shows that not only did the pentagon know it was gunna happen, but the people who work there were likely involved in the organization of it too.
So suck it up and realize what this country has become. This system has become so crooked that we need to invade other countries and reconstruct them in order for our crooks to sustain themselves. Welcome to the world of hipsters, bankers, ceos, scammers, and globalist profiteerers. They are jsut guys who have gotten good at the game. Just opportunist who have gone unpunished and will continue to do so.
Mmmm, Yes, look it up on YOUTUBE if you don't believe it! Apparently Youtube is the scientific answer to the world's problems. You realize how fucking dumb you sound!?
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#64
Quote Originally Posted by PaulyBleeker:
Pimping fucking YouTube videos to try and support your claims that the US government killed 4000 citizens in the 9/11 attacks....you people are sick.
And your gullable as shit. Im not saying that congress had a meeting and planned 911. I bet your an even worse poker player than you are sports better. Oh ya, and sweet 4 posts. Welcome to the forum douchbag.
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#65
Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:
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Let's just say that your assessment on those points are true for now.
How can these be explained ?
How did they find one of the terrorists passports on the sidewalk ? Show me the Passport
Pilots with 30 years exp. say that the second plane was not a passanger plane because it had something on the underbelly and it had no windows on the side ? My mother was a flight attendant for 33 years and she said it was a commercial plane.
How were pillars sheared on an angle just like they are done in pro. demolition ? I saw one beam that was at an angle in that video. wouldn't there be more than one? The force of the building falling could have severed it at an angle.
Where is there evidence of a plane at the pentagon ? I saw a video of the plane hitting the pentagon
How does a huge plane fit in the small hole at the pentagon ? what?
Where is the plane wreckage in Pittsburgh ? That pic was taken after the wreckage had been removed. not rocket science.
What about the victims who called their loved ones right before they stagged the attack on the terrorists before the plane crashed in the field? Why did it crash in a field? Don't be a dumb fuck.
There was about an hour between when they knew there was a sky-jacking and when a so-called plane hit the pentagon..And they couldn't find this plane ? it wouldn't be that hard for a smart terrorist orginizations to find out the US was planning an exercise on that day and that is why they did it on that day.
Was it a coincidence that the owner of the three buildings that went down got huge insurance days earlier based on if they were attacked by terrorists he gets paid 7 billion dollars ? So the owner commited Insurance fraud and the insurance companies just paid the bill, huh? The insurance companies said" fuck it, we will pay?"
What about the margin calls that were bought by terrorist orginizations and raked in HUGE profits from Insurance and Airline stocks tanking? The profits were frozen.
Why were none of the names of the terrorists that they say were on these planes found on the manifest ? maybe because they used assumed names? not hard to figure out if I am a known terrorist, just use a fake ID. I guess you never had a fake ID, I have one when I was 16.
They showed the pictures of 19 terrorists that took over those planes....How are there 7 of them still alive ? Did you talk to all 7 who cliam to be alive? Didn't think so.
How can a guy who could barely fly a 2 seat plane hit the pentagon ? all he had to do was steer the plane. he didn't have to take off or land, which is the hardest things to do.
Why did Dick Chaney put himself in charge of AIR DEFENCE early that morning before anything happened ?....First time in history for that to happen. Coincedence?
Why is there no film showing a plane hit the pentagon ? The worlds most secure building has no cameras showing it ? I saw a video of a blur flying into the Pentagon and and Explosion, you didn't see that video?
By the way..Experts say that it is scientifically impossible for a plane that size to do that...let alone a first time flyer do it. What Experts? ones who were paid to show up on a video?
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There is no way that a handful of terrorists that are nutty enough to believe that when they die they are going to have 30 virgins waiting on the other side for them, can pull something like this off without a lot of help from someone.
What does indoctrination into that culture have to do with a sophisticated operation?How did the Nazis pull off what they did? Are they Crazy? Yes, but very smart also.
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#66
why couldn't the Arabs place the thermite on the beams? they blew up the basement in 1998. sure there could have been an insider. all they would need to do is plant a janitor or technician in the building and voila, there is your inside man.
you didn't refute anything I posted earlier, so it must have made sense.
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#67
Quote Originally Posted by papsmear:
If you do the research it is fairly obvious those buildings were a demolition. Obviously they were hit by planes. But really you dont even need to bother. The only evidence u need is one thing. One day before sept 11 (sept 10th), the pentagon admits to losing 2.3 Triilion dollars. Thats right trillion. And if u think that kinda money cant buy somethin like 911 your wrong. Not to mention the trillions that have been made in military and reconstruction contracts. You can go look the video up on youtube if u dont believe me. Thats it, thats all you need to know. With this piece of information alone shows that not only did the pentagon know it was gunna happen, but the people who work there were likely involved in the organization of it too.
So suck it up and realize what this country has become. This system has become so crooked that we need to invade other countries and reconstruct them in order for our crooks to sustain themselves. Welcome to the world of hipsters, bankers, ceos, scammers, and globalist profiteerers. They are jsut guys who have gotten good at the game. Just opportunist who have gone unpunished and will continue to do so.
If you do the research it is fairly obvious those buildings were a demolition. Obviously they were hit by planes. But really you dont even need to bother. The only evidence u need is one thing. One day before sept 11 (sept 10th), the pentagon admits to losing 2.3 Triilion dollars. Thats right trillion. And if u think that kinda money cant buy somethin like 911 your wrong. Not to mention the trillions that have been made in military and reconstruction contracts. You can go look the video up on youtube if u dont believe me. Thats it, thats all you need to know. With this piece of information alone shows that not only did the pentagon know it was gunna happen, but the people who work there were likely involved in the organization of it too.
So suck it up and realize what this country has become. This system has become so crooked that we need to invade other countries and reconstruct them in order for our crooks to sustain themselves. Welcome to the world of hipsters, bankers, ceos, scammers, and globalist profiteerers. They are jsut guys who have gotten good at the game. Just opportunist who have gone unpunished and will continue to do so.
so the pentagon lost 17% of our GDP? are you a fucking idiot? don't answer that just yet, how much is our total economy worth?
It is true that we NEED oil. if you had no gas and your child needed to go to the ER, how would you get them there without oil?
Take all the oil for all I care, I AM SICK OF PAYING 3 FUCKING DOLLARS A GALLON.
It is so simple a kindergartener could figure it out. What happened after about 30 minutes that day? The price of gas went through the roof. now I know we think the oil companies are hideous, but who really controls the worlds oil? OPEC you idiot. They are the ones who make the money on the oil, along with oil companies.
The US reserves ALL of its own oil. That means we save it for later and BUY ALL of our oil we consume. So why would the goverment do something that would make America spend more on oil and put us at greater risk?
And the production value of that film stunk. It was obviously a college student that made it and I can't take that seriously.
And if you get your info off YOUTUBE, I feel sorry for your parents.
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#68
NONEED4LUCK....Those were the funniest insane answers that I have seen ever on ANY subject.
Every single one of them make no sense.
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you didn't refute anything I posted earlier, so it must have made sense.
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Natural gas explosions ?....too funny
Just the heat alone from the building falling would be very hot....
At 500 degrees more than jet fuel burns ...and 7 days later ?
But maybe it was sabotaged and Thermite was used? Who is not to say the Arabs didn't know about thermite and they themselves placed the thermite?
You honestly think that Arabs strolled into the WTC and did this ?
You are clueless 
I didn't refute them because they were such lame answers...I never thought that you could possibly come out with more naive stuff but....You outdid yourself......
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Where is there evidence of a plane at the pentagon ? I saw a video of the plane hitting the pentagon
Why is there no film showing a plane hit the pentagon ? The worlds most secure building has no cameras showing it ? I saw a video of a blur flying into the Pentagon and and Explosion, you didn't see that video?
Make up your mind.They showed the pictures of 19 terrorists that took over those planes....How are there 7 of them still alive ? Did you talk to all 7 who cliam to be alive? Didn't think so.
Are you sure that you are not still 16 ?
How can a guy who could barely fly a 2 seat plane hit the pentagon ? all he had to do was steer the plane. he didn't have to take off or land, which is the hardest things to do.
Mom tell you that ? Why not say...they programmed the plane and put it in auto pilot ?
I have dealt with some morons in the penalty box....But you easily have less grey matter than any...hands down.
It's no wonder you appear as one of the {busiest posters} so often.
all coincidences......Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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#69
Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:
One more point I forgot. It is well known fact that Osama Bin Laden was admonished by his family and they do not support him I had a Palastinian friend who grew up in Saudi Arabia and he told me this. It is well known, except to the film maker
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything but....I noticed that the film maker never mentioned wheather OSAMA was toilet trained or not. Gotta be a fake film then.
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#70
Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything but....I noticed that the film maker never mentioned wheather OSAMA was toilet trained or not. Gotta be a fake film then.
Yeah, why would it matter that he isn't part of the family anymore that is said to be in cahoots with the Bush's?
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#71
Quote Originally Posted by papsmear:
And your gullable as shit. Im not saying that congress had a meeting and planned 911. I bet your an even worse poker player than you are sports better. Oh ya, and sweet 4 posts. Welcome to the forum douchbag.
And your gullable as shit. Im not saying that congress had a meeting and planned 911. I bet your an even worse poker player than you are sports better. Oh ya, and sweet 4 posts. Welcome to the forum douchbag.
I am gullable because I dont believe our own government was responsible for 9/11....riiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Guess there are a ton of gullible people in this world though save you and a handful of dumbfucks and a dousche bag independent filmmaker that can't even get his work into a REAL production company's hands or any notoriety!
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#72
Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:
Let's just say that your assessment on those points are true for now.
How can these be explained ?Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
How did they find one of the terrorists passports on the sidewalk ?
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
How did they find one of the terrorists passports on the sidewalk ?
Link?
Pilots with 30 years exp. say that the second plane was not a passanger plane because it had something on the underbelly and it had no windows on the side ?
One of the clearest, most widely seen pictures of the doomed jet's undercarriage was taken by photographer Rob Howard and published in New York magazine and elsewhere (opening page). PM sent a digital scan of the original photo to Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. Greeley is an expert at analyzing images to determine the shape and features of geological formations based on shadow and light effects. After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear. He concludes that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement) on film," he writes in an e-mail to PM, "which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images — the pixels are saturated and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels." When asked about pods attached to civilian aircraft, Fred E. Culick, professor of aeronautics at the California Institute of Technology, gave a blunter response: "That's bull. They're really stretching."
Where is there evidence of a plane at the pentagon ?
Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"
How does a huge plane fit in the small hole at the pentagon ?
When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide — not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide — not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
Where is the plane wreckage in Pittsburgh ?
Experts on the scene tell PM that a fan from one of the engines was recovered in a catchment basin, downhill from the crash site. Jeff Reinbold, the National Park Service representative responsible for the Flight 93 National Memorial, confirms the direction and distance from the crash site to the basin: just over 300 yards south, which means the fan landed in the direction the jet was traveling. "It's not unusual for an engine to move or tumble across the ground," says Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 out of New York City in 1996. "When you have very high velocities, 500 mph or more," Hynes says, "you are talking about 700 to 800 ft. per second. For something to hit the ground with that kind of energy, it would only take a few seconds to bounce up and travel 300 yards." Numerous crash analysts contacted by PM concur.
Here are my sources to answer your pathetic questions.....Where are yours....??? Youtube? LMAO!https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=9
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Here are my sources to answer your pathetic questions.....Where are yours....??? Youtube? LMAO!https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=9
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I READ IT AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD THEORIES ALONG WITH SOME NOT-SO GOOD ONES.
But you are saying Popular Mechanics is Gold and anything that is on youtube is Crap ?
Believe whatever you like and I don't see my questions as pathetic...just unanswered.
I might agree with the possibility of a couple of these so-called FACTS.....But NONEED4LUCKS answers were just totally off the charts
PaulyBleeker...Thanks for posting that site....But don't be a dick.
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Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:
Here are my sources to answer your pathetic questions.....Where are yours....??? Youtube? LMAO!https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=9
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I READ IT AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD THEORIES ALONG WITH SOME NOT-SO GOOD ONES.
But you are saying Popular Mechanics is Gold and anything that is on youtube is Crap ?
Believe whatever you like and I don't see my questions as pathetic...just unanswered.
I might agree with the possibility of a couple of these so-called FACTS.....But NONEED4LUCKS answers were just totally off the charts
PaulyBleeker...Thanks for posting that site....But don't be a dick.
Well I am not trying to really be a dick but people in this thread are pretty much blaming our government for a terrorist attack that was carried out by actual FOREIGN TERRORISTS and all because of some fricking video they watched on YOUTUBE! I mean seriously...come on now and be a little more realistic. Most of the other questions posed have answers as well but I had to delete them because that post was at the 7800 charcter limit and when I went back to paste them in a new message the text has been deleted from my clipboard. I will get around to it sometime I guess but you have the link now to 25+ respected people in their professions regarding the actual science behind the factless claims the wackos are spewing.
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