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Carl Edwards      +725
Jimmie Johnson      +725
Denny Hamlin      +850
Kyle Busch      +850
Jeff Gordon      +950
Kurt Busch      +950
Matt Kenseth      +1050
Kevin Harvick      +1300
Tony Stewart      +1300
Greg Biffle      +2000
Brad Keselowski      +2500
Dale Earnhardt Jr      +2700
Kasey Kahne      +3300
David Ragan      +3800
Joey Logano      +3800
Ryan Newman      +3800
Clint Bowyer      +4000
Juan Pablo Montoya      +4400
Jeff Burton      +4400
Martin Truex Jr      +4900
Paul Menard      +4900
Mark Martin      +5500
David Reutimann      +5500
Brian Vickers      +5500
Jamie McMurray      +6500
 
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What's up with the Biffle lines? I added 0.1U to win +2000 and t3 +600.

Biff is 20/1 but Stewart and Harvick are 12/1.  Biff's the Match Up fav at -125/-105 and -130/even

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

What's up with the Biffle lines? I added 0.1U to win +2000 and t3 +600.

Biff is 20/1 but Stewart and Harvick are 12/1.  Biff's the Match Up fav at -125/-105 and -130/even



Saw that makes no sense to me either
 
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biffle can't close the deal this year   should have won a race or 2 this year just snakebitten...  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

biffle can't close the deal this year   should have won a race or 2 this year just snakebitten...  


Think this is his best shot to win and they are gonna need a win for a shot at chase
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

What's up with the Biffle lines? I added 0.1U to win +2000 and t3 +600.

Biff is 20/1 but Stewart and Harvick are 12/1.  Biff's the Match Up fav at -125/-105 and -130/even

Googs.....The Biff has been unable to close the deal far and thats the reason he's 20-1 I do like him this week at 20-1 though. The Roush cars are all going to be solid in qualifying and thats why hes the favorite. Kennseth sucks at qualifying but I believe he started way upfront last time they were here.   

 
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    top 15 this weekend will really surprise me...    pocono and the glen r 2 tracks where u can steal great finishes!!!   if is crew chief doesn't copy kurt's pitting right b4 the rain at pocono he finishes 20th   and he was one of 4 or 5 drivers who ran the glen on  2 pit stops    he is running good  but we will b getting back 2 tracks where it's hard 2 steal a good finish

Solid angles but wrong conclusion. I agree he benefited from solid strategy but the last 2 weeks are no fluke. Brad will be in the Chase and carry this momentum for the forseeable future. This is Denny last year with a worse injury. Brad is just beginning to realize his talent and slowly realizing he's as good as anyone else. Penske has been nails all season, only 2 cars, check the results.
 
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Not the best english. Little redundant, it's late. You get the point. 
 
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Vickers qualified 4th and finished 10th in the spring race
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Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

Not the best english. Little redundant, it's late. You get the point. 
     thru 22 races  12 finishes of 18th or worse  i think he will definitely make the chase just not some 1 i can put my money on yet.  top 15 this week would surprise me.   best of luck this weekend
 
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

     thru 22 races  12 finishes of 18th or worse  i think he will definitely make the chase just not some 1 i can put my money on yet.  top 15 this week would surprise me.   best of luck this weekend


a month ago I would've agreed but he has impressed me and seems Penske team turned corner after Kurts radio meltdown over teams equipment awhile back
 
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Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:



a month ago I would've agreed but he has impressed me and seems Penske team turned corner after Kurts radio meltdown over teams equipment awhile back



I agree.
 
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4 of his last 5 races are top 10's       just hard for me to have faith in a guy who's best finish is 24th in 4 starts at any track   ,  but time will tell  and i wish all the best of luck in any matchup's  that u guys play involving him..      2 matchup's  already out  kahne -120 brad -110        jr.-125   brad -105 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

4 of his last 5 races are top 10's       just hard for me to have faith in a guy who's best finish is 24th in 4 starts at any track   ,  but time will tell  and i wish all the best of luck in any matchup's  that u guys play involving him..      2 matchup's  already out  kahne -120 brad -110        jr.-125   brad -105 



One other factor he will want to do well here as he is from Michigan

GL this weekend
 
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any thoughts on martin-120 over burton 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

any thoughts on martin-120 over burton 


Thats hard but gun to head I'd take Mark

but both have had such miserable years
 
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Lean towards Mark here but the last time Burton was in this chassis was at Auto Club Speedway and he started 7th.(fin 15th).  have to pass.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

Lean towards Mark here but the last time Burton was in this chassis was at Auto Club Speedway and he started 7th.(fin 15th).  have to pass.


agree should be better matchups come raceday
 
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Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:



agree should be better matchups come raceday
      they r up on dimes....     i feel like this might b -150 or higher come race day,   think it is always best to lock your matchup's in prior to the car's hitting the track as some of us tend to know as much or even more then some of these people that set  #'s for nascar...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

      they r up on dimes....     i feel like this might b -150 or higher come race day,   think it is always best to lock your matchup's in prior to the car's hitting the track as some of us tend to know as much or even more then some of these people that set  #'s for nascar...


wasn't impressed with what I saw will await as sure a few i'm looking at may qualify bad
 
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Made an early race matchup play on Brad -110 v Kahne to win $100. The hottest driver on the circuit against one of the coldest. Wouldn't shock me to see Kasey qualify in Top 10 and Brad Outside Top 20 only to have the exact opposite positions at the end of the race.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

Made an early race matchup play on Brad -110 v Kahne to win $100. The hottest driver on the circuit against one of the coldest. Wouldn't shock me to see Kasey qualify in Top 10 and Brad Outside Top 20 only to have the exact opposite positions at the end of the race.



Hoping Brad qualifies mid pack like some + match ups
 
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kahne is good on 2mile dshape ovals... look at results from autoclub and michigan, and redbull equipment isn't sub par...not to count brad out but id play kahne ovr brad here.
 
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Race Matchups - Pure Michigan 400 - Michigan International Speedway - Brooklyn, MI - Sunday, 1:00 PM EST - ESPN

Fri 8/19   8501 Carl Edwards #99   -120         
11:00AM    8502 Matt Kenseth #17    -110 
       
Fri 8/19   8503 Carl Edwards #99   -135         
11:00AM    8504 Kyle Busch #18    +105
         
Fri 8/19   8505 Kyle Busch #18   -145         
11:00AM    8506 Kurt Busch #22    +115
        
Fri 8/19   8507 Kurt Busch #22   +115         
11:00AM    8508 Jimmie Johnson #48    -145
        
Fri 8/19   8509 Jimmie Johnson #48   +115         
11:00AM    8510 Matt Kenseth #17    -145 
       
Fri 8/19   8511 Denny Hamlin #11   -140         
11:00AM    8512 Jeff Gordon #24    +110
         
Fri 8/19   8513 Denny Hamlin #11   -145         
11:00AM    8514 Kevin Harvick #29    +115
        
Fri 8/19   8515 Jeff Gordon #24   -120         
11:00AM    8516 Tony Stewart #14    -110
         
Fri 8/19   8517 Kevin Harvick #29   +100         
11:00AM    8518 Greg Biffle #16    -130
        
Fri 8/19   8519 Tony Stewart #14   -125         
11:00AM    8520 Greg Biffle #16    -105
        
Fri 8/19   8521 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88   -115         
11:00AM    8522 Ryan Newman #39    -115
        
Fri 8/19   8523 Kasey Kahne #4   +100         
11:00AM    8524 Brad Keselowski #2    -130
        
Fri 8/19   8525 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88   -115         
11:00AM    8526 Brad Keselowski #2    -115
        
Fri 8/19   8527 Clint Bowyer #33   -145         
11:00AM    8528 Joey Logano #20    +115
        
Fri 8/19   8529 David Ragan #6   +100         
11:00AM    8530 Brian Vickers #83    -130
        
Fri 8/19   8531 Juan Pablo Montoya #42   -105         
11:00AM    8532 Mark Martin #5    -125 
       
Fri 8/19   8533 Martin Truex Jr #56   -110         
11:00AM    8534 Paul Menard #27    -120
        
Fri 8/19   8535 Jeff Burton #31   -105         
11:00AM    8536 Mark Martin #5    -125
        
Fri 8/19   8537 Jeff Burton #31   -115         
11:00AM    8538 Juan Pablo Montoya #42    -115 
       
Fri 8/19   8539 Jamie McMurray #1   -115         
11:00AM    8540 David Reutimann #00    -115 

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dustindungeons:

kahne is good on 2mile dshape ovals... look at results from autoclub and michigan, and redbull equipment isn't sub par...not to count brad out but id play kahne ovr brad here.


I never discounted Kahnes 2 mile ability or the equipment.Its just a team that lately seems to be mailing it in.Since Redbull wants out there and Kahne will be at Hendrick next year I think they just want the year over
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