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Cavaliers was -3 at home but now +4 in Toronto without DeRozan?

What is Vegas trying to say? Lure people into betting the Cavaliers?
Look, Vegas does not hand out free gifts but this Cavs +4 line is way off.

I don't rate the Cavs that highly, they're not that good but in this situation no one in this game will stop Lebron from revenge against that 17 point loss to the Raptors at home, in fact the only player in the NBA that can stop Lebron is Kawhi Leonard and nobody else.

LOAD UP on the Cavaliers +4, my book has it at +4.5, but you won't need it, the Cavs win this game straight up.
 
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It's pretty easy to stop Lebron.  Just run a tight zone and force him to take jumpers.  He gets hot from outside in like 1 out of every 5 games, but on most nights he will fail to beat you from the perimeter.
 
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No James tonite
 
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Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

No James tonite

I hope you don't have any inside information regarding that because he's listed as probable.
 
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The Cavs have real issues.  Toronto is solid, but agree their record is a little over the top.  I like points in this one.  
 
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Cavs all day.. 4.5 even better than the 4 I saw earlier
 
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Toronto a way better team. Playing at home off a rested night against this Cavs squad that struggled to beat the knicks last night?

I think blowout win here for Raps once again

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believe it or not...tailing a dude listing this as a 7-unit play. He is 16-4 on these big plays so far this year in the NBA

He thinks blowout as well
 
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Quote Originally Posted by whqodus:

Toronto a way better team. Playing at home off a rested night against this Cavs squad that struggled to beat the knicks last night?I think blowout win here for Raps once againBOL


i agree. Blowout written all over it
 
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Line made sense at -3 which is what it was before Cavs game.   Teams are rated about the same (derozan worth maybe 1-2 pts).  I think it has prob moved up to 4.5 with money on TOR, after Cavs barely able to win in NY.  
 
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Why do people care that the Cavs struggled against the Knicks, this is the NBA. It is different situations from game to game. The Cavs were looking ahead to this game.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Predictoraus:

Why do people care that the Cavs struggled against the Knicks, this is the NBA. It is different situations from game to game. The Cavs were looking ahead to this game.

because it means their starters are not going to be as fresh...? Do you not take that into account when capping? 

And for the Cavs, if their starters are not fresh...who is going to step up? No depth on that roster
 
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because it means their starters are not going to be as fresh...? Do you not take that into account when capping? 

And for the Cavs, if their starters are not fresh...who is going to step up? No depth on that roster

This is true.  Love played 39, Lebronie played 40 and Irving 44.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by whqodus:


because it means their starters are not going to be as fresh...? Do you not take that into account when capping? 

And for the Cavs, if their starters are not fresh...who is going to step up? No depth on that roster

Struggling against the Knicks has nothing to do with being fresh for this game. A better argument you could've made in regards to the Cavs being not fresh is that they are playing this the second game of a back-to-back and playing their 3rd game in 4 nights.

I don't see freshness as an issue in this game.
 
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so many squares on cle, amazing.  Tor covers here.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

It's pretty easy to stop Lebron.  Just run a tight zone and force him to take jumpers.  He gets hot from outside in like 1 out of every 5 games, but on most nights he will fail to beat you from the perimeter.

Dude in response to your post, Lebron is a multiple MVP and best player on a championship team, what you just said is completely wrong
 
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Raps or no play, could never bet the Cavs here.  James looks half asleep out there.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by whqodus:


because it means their starters are not going to be as fresh...? Do you not take that into account when capping? 

And for the Cavs, if their starters are not fresh...who is going to step up? No depth on that roster

Well this is Toronto's 4th game in 6 nights and Cleveland's 4th in 7.  Toronto's stretch includes a west coast trip so who in reality is more "fresh" ?
 
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Dude in response to your post, Lebron is a multiple MVP and best player on a championship team, what you just said is completely wrong

 

Oh really?  This is exactly what the Mavs did to him in 2011.  The Spurs have done this to him with good results as well.

Lebron is a great player but he is far from perfect and his inconsistent jumper is one of his biggest weaknesses.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

 

Oh really?  This is exactly what the Mavs did to him in 2011.  The Spurs have done this to him with good results as well.

Lebron is a great player but he is far from perfect and his inconsistent jumper is one of his biggest weaknesses.


In regards to the Spurs I have only 2 words, Kawhi Leonard.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Predictoraus:


In regards to the Spurs I have only 2 words, Kawhi Leonard.

and what's your response for the Mavs series?  They didn't have a Kawhi Leonard.  They played a tight zone and put guys like Stevenson and Jason Kidd on him and he was rendered useless.  He has grown since then but he can still be slowed down with these tactics.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

and what's your response for the Mavs series?  They didn't have a Kawhi Leonard.  They played a tight zone and put guys like Stevenson and Jason Kidd on him and he was rendered useless.  He has grown since then but he can still be slowed down with these tactics.


To be honest with you I didn't watch the Mavs vs Heat Finals series.
 
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we bagging and rubber banding  that cash

Lebron

 
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Begging for cle money obv
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Predictoraus:

Quote Originally Posted by whqodus:

because it means their starters are not going to be as fresh...? Do you not take that into account when capping? And for the Cavs, if their starters are not fresh...who is going to step up? No depth on that roster
Struggling against the Knicks has nothing to do with being fresh for this game. A better argument you could've made in regards to the Cavs being not fresh is that they are playing this the second game of a back-to-back and playing their 3rd game in 4 nights.I don't see freshness as an issue in this game.


Thats why I said they struggled against the knicks "LAST NIGHT"... and yes struggling against the knicks does have something to do with how we analyze the cavs. Kyrie went off last night and thats the ONLY reason they pulled out with a slim win. Look at their bench numbers. No contribution whatsoever. Toronto is a solid solid team. Cavs...like someone mentioned already have many many issues to address
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