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#*CAVALIERS VS WARRIORS FINALS DISCUSSION*#

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Lebron vs. Draymond Green

Triston Thompson vs. Bogut

Curry vs. Kyrie or JR smith?

Thompson vs. Kyrie or JR?

Blatt vs Kerr

Ref Bias

Depth...Benches...and one dirty or "hard playing" Australian?

Please Discuss, the mic is yours forum
 
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For starters...

Team SOS
GS #13
CLE #17

PPG
GS 109.1
CLE 102.9

3PT made PG
GS 10.9
CLE 10.1

FT's made PG
GS 15.8
CLE 18(ref bias or style of play?)

T.O. margin PG
GS -1
CLE +1 (adv GS, 2 possesions)

ASSIST margin PG
GS+6
CLE-1.7

BLOCK margin PG
GS+2.4
CLE+.1
 
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I don't like LeBron's fat head but he's very physical in the paint and that is probably higher percentage shots than Curry's threes. I'll be rooting for Warriors but from what I've seen, Cavs take it in 7, my best guess. 

 
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I'm already on Cleveland + 7. I'm betting on  L. James
to keep it close.



Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
 
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CAVS WIN IT ALL in 5 or 6

https://isportsweb.com/2015/02/24/the-cleveland-cavaliers-will-win-nba-championship/

Seriously confused how anyone sees otherwise -- this is Heat v. Thunder 2.0 -- Refs will confuse the Warriors and destroy
 
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Warriors in 5 better coach, starting five and bench.
 
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REBOUNDING MARGIN

PLAYOFFS
CLE+6.57
GS+3.93

REG SEASON
CLE+1.84
GS+.17

Amazing how the post season gets these guys to up their game, getting boards is pure effort and will..

Bed time fellas. I'm seeing strong UNDER implications early on.

BOL
 
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Irving and LeBron account for around  50% of the Cav's points.  If one of them get injured during the series, Cavs are toast.

 
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This is LeBron's year LOCK it UP -- CAVS WIN IT ALL IN 5 or 6
 
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Golden state will sweep or in 5. Cavs are heavily out matched in this series. The real JR Smith and Shumpert will show up in the finals. Klay is an under estimated perimeter defender. Bogut and Green will control the boards. They are the deepest team and should get Speights back.
 
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Bobmaloogatimesfive is a cavaliers fan
 
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Quote Originally Posted by boybawang:

Bobmaloogatimesfive is a cavaliers fan


actually,shockingly,he is a bona-fide warriors fan.....this must be tortuorous for him,not sure why he cant just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of rooting againt them or trying this voodoo jinx thing hes got going on.
 
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Living less then an hour away from Cleveland I can tell you the home town fans are hoping for a title but most that I know have their money on the warriors. Lebron is a great player but his head won't be right for this series. Kerr returns to Cleveland to coach against them who he played for. LBJ is much different in public then private and will be taking blame for them losing to GS but behind the scenes he'll be making excuse after excuse. He thinks he's a one man show including being the coach. Just my opinion but do think the warriors will take the championship fairly easy..The Cavs will get a better shot in the future if they get lucky enough to get his son on the team when he comes to the NBA and that kid is a phenom. BOL with whoever you bet on as I have GS for the title on a small play but won't be betting a single game in the series. Kinda hope the Cavs prove me wrong but I just don't see it happening.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jjnow:

Living less then an hour away from Cleveland I can tell you the home town fans are hoping for a title but most that I know have their money on the warriors. Lebron is a great player but his head won't be right for this series. Kerr returns to Cleveland to coach against them who he played for. LBJ is much different in public then private and will be taking blame for them losing to GS but behind the scenes he'll be making excuse after excuse. He thinks he's a one man show including being the coach. Just my opinion but do think the warriors will take the championship fairly easy..The Cavs will get a better shot in the future if they get lucky enough to get his son on the team when he comes to the NBA and that kid is a phenom. BOL with whoever you bet on as I have GS for the title on a small play but won't be betting a single game in the series. Kinda hope the Cavs prove me wrong but I just don't see it happening.


Translation.

I'm a Cavs homer but using the reverse jinx method by betting warriors in case King James doesn't pull it off and i come away happy either way in this series?
 
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^^lol
 
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CAVS ROLL 
 
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whole series depends whether JR smith can stay off the reefer over an 8 day layoff.

i doubt it. 
 
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REGULAR SEASON RECORDS

SU
Cleveland 65-31
GS 79-18

Cle away vs west 7-8
GS home vs east 14-1(only loss vs bulls)

ATS
Cleveland 48-48
GS 54-42-1

Cleveland away 24-24
GS home 29-19-1

Cle away vs west 7-8
GS home vs east 8-6-1


PLAYOFF RECORDS

SU
Cleveland 12-2
GS 12-3

ATS
Cleveland 8-6
GS 7-8

Bothe teams are 1-1 SU and ATS against eachother in reg season play. Both games went under the total.

Let me remind everyone Cleveland"s SOS#17
GS SOS#13, small difference but important. I will try to find some key #'s in common opponent stats when I get a chance.
 
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Warriors are the better team, obviously. I'm just not sure if they have enough experience and if their shots will fall in the crucial moment. In my opinion, this series will have at least six games, maybe even 7. 
 
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Good stuff guys, keep it comin.

How are Kyrie Irving's multiple leg ailments going to hold up against the warriors pace??

Do you guys see the cavs being able to slow down and make it a half court game?

Will kerr go small and run the bigs off of the floor? Or does the cavs tremendous rebounding capabilities prevent a small lineup by gsw?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jjnow:

Living less then an hour away from Cleveland I can tell you the home town fans are hoping for a title but most that I know have their money on the warriors. Lebron is a great player but his head won't be right for this series. Kerr returns to Cleveland to coach against them who he played for. LBJ is much different in public then private and will be taking blame for them losing to GS but behind the scenes he'll be making excuse after excuse. He thinks he's a one man show including being the coach. Just my opinion but do think the warriors will take the championship fairly easy..The Cavs will get a better shot in the future if they get lucky enough to get his son on the team when he comes to the NBA and that kid is a phenom. BOL with whoever you bet on as I have GS for the title on a small play but won't be betting a single game in the series. Kinda hope the Cavs prove me wrong but I just don't see it happening.

What do you mean by this?
 
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I'm not quite sure why the Cavs are +200 to win the series. My only reasoning to why is probably the health of Kyrie. He'll be a key to this series for a few reasons.

With a healthy Kyrie, the Dubs will have to adjust their defensive game plan. 

1. Curry can't stay on Kyrie full time, it'll burn him out and probably put him on a bad spot of getting into foul trouble. Let alone, probably mess up his offensive game overall. 

2. Kyrie being the primary ball handler spaces the floor more for the Cavs. This puts the Dubs again on a different defensive front because they have to honor Shump/JR outside while also accounting for the King.

3. OK cool Dubs will put Klay on Kyrie..so the rest of the match-up will be:

Barnes v LBJ
Dray v Tristan
Bogut v Mosgov
Curry v Shump - yeah this will be taken advantage of big time. 

I really think the Cavs 5 in the playoffs has played better D vs the Dubs 5. That's hard for me to admit since I live and am in the Bay Area. 

To summarized, the PG match-up will be the key for this series. At the end of the day, offensively Curry will have a slight advantage over Kyrie. But if Kyrie is 100% healthy, it'll be a very close game. 
 
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A healthy Kyrie....are you serious?  When on earth has Kyrie been healthy??

It's simple.   Lebron can't do it by himself.  His supporting cast ain't garbage so don't even start.  Out here in the west, NOBODY'S impressed with watching the Cav's trample the Leastern Conference.

Lebron was collapsed on the floor after playing....ATLANTA.  .....Atlanta people!!  Let the marinate for a moment.

Warriors in 5 and don't kid yourself.

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mortgageguru:

Golden state will sweep or in 5. Cavs are heavily out matched in this series. The real JR Smith and Shumpert will show up in the finals. Klay is an under estimated perimeter defender. Bogut and Green will control the boards. They are the deepest team and should get Speights back.

For fucksake, the Warriors bench would've been a 6 or 7th seed on the East.    If anyone was paying attention, it was the BENCH + Harrison Barnes that put the Rockets away last night.

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Dirk_Werner41:

Warriors are the better team, obviously. I'm just not sure if they have enough experience and if their shots will fall in the crucial moment. In my opinion, this series will have at least six games, maybe even 7. 

Aside from Lebron, who on that staff has finals experience?   Oh I forgot, Steve Kerr never spent time near an NBA finals.

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