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Quote Originally Posted by TROYZBOYZ:

Here is the latest coming up on "itsonnow1" :

1.  Complete 3 month results have been tallied
2.  At least 6 SUPER Claims completely debunked using his own words (inlcuding that 7 day positive bet streak end of feb-mar)
3.  Think im the only one suspicious or questioning?  There are several in here that are/have.

A monthly breakdown of January, February and March along with overall results coming up...stay tuned!!  It aint pretty 


Here is a little taste:

He said "I make more in a week than most people make in a year"

FALSE!!!  Over a 3-month period (the length he has been posting picks) he has a net loss of $22,250...he has bet in only 9 of the 12 weeks (Jan 5- Mar 29th)...so... 

1)  His WEEKLY profit/loss average is:

NEGATIVE $2,472.22/wk (-22,250 / 9 weeks)

2)  His MONTHLY profit/loss average is:

NEGATIVE $9,888.89/mo (-22,250 / 2.25 months)

He has told everyone to go back themselves and verify in this thread, so I did...MORE to come!

Anyone wondering why he doesnt take the time to update his record to make it easier on those he says he wants to help...You will find out why real soon.
Bumped for the noobs or for those that still havnt figured it out yet.
 
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In on the Rockets pick!
 
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Good work, Troyz. I am all for transparency and updated records on here so it is appreciated. Not that I have had any interest or followed this guy's picks at all but for the good of the forum in general, threads should be well represented, honest and transparent from the get go.
I find it hard to believe that he actually says he has a growing email list from posters on here. I've been here a long while now and most are somewhat a fickle bunch who are happy to follow when you're hot and quick to disappear or bash when you get cold. This guy has rarely ever been "hot" since posting, so to say that his email list is growing and has had many pm's just doesn't add up nor convince me. To me, it just shows as some sort of marketing ploy because he knows full well that his thread is constantly on the first page with 20K views and counting.
Lastly, I think I've only seen him win one or two MLB exhibition games since he started posting MLB. Quite obviously he isn't one of those "75%" handicappers in MLB and NFL preseason. Whatever this "system" is that he uses and this "syndicate" he belongs to (presumably Animals who have apparently been terrible lately), they seriously need to go back to the drawing board.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Trigg:

Good work, Troyz. I am all for transparency and updated records on here so it is appreciated. Not that I have had any interest or followed this guy's picks at all but for the good of the forum in general, threads should be well represented, honest and transparent from the get go.
I find it hard to believe that he actually says he has a growing email list from posters on here. I've been here a long while now and most are somewhat a fickle bunch who are happy to follow when you're hot and quick to disappear or bash when you get cold. This guy has rarely ever been "hot" since posting, so to say that his email list is growing and has had many pm's just doesn't add up nor convince me. To me, it just shows as some sort of marketing ploy because he knows full well that his thread is constantly on the first page with 20K views and counting.
Lastly, I think I've only seen him win one or two MLB exhibition games since he started posting MLB. Quite obviously he isn't one of those "75%" handicappers in MLB and NFL preseason. Whatever this "system" is that he uses and this "syndicate" he belongs to (presumably Animals who have apparently been terrible lately), they seriously need to go back to the drawing board.
His big mouth and wild claims ticked me off.  Especially when he is supposedly here to help.  The first thing he could do to help would be to post a record...If you dont then how does that help a new person coming in?  Just take his word for it?  Or spend hours combing thru 21 pages?

Personally, I cant believe that more people havnt demanded it.  Yet there were several in here wanting on his email list...lol.  This information is not for those people.  Its for those people that are coming here for an extra edge and need to be able to see results in plain sight.

You literally cannot believe a word he says...I have 7 of his claims sitting in front of me that have been completely debunked...most of them by him contradicting himself.  And whenever he gets caught, he always says you misunderstood or took it out of context or whatever.  Watch what he does when I post proof of claims debunked.  Well Im tired of his mouth...others can look at it and decide for themselves.

THE GUY HAS A 52% WIN RATE AND IN THE HOLE 22k...AND HE CALLS HIMSELF AN EXPERT ON MONEY MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS THE SAME GUY THAT SAYS WITH GOOD MONEY MANAGEMENT LIKE HE HAS, YOU CAN BE PROFITABLE EVEN AT 30-45% WIN RATE...LMAO...HES AT 52 PERCENT AND LOSING MONEY....LMAO.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jesseke:

In on the Rockets pick!

Good choice on avoiding my mlb pick.

I'm on a bit of a slide this preseason.

But our nba has been doing pretty well.  Let's hope we hit it and start a decent sized win streak.  Need to snap this slide I'm on as of late.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Trigg:

Good work, Troyz. I am all for transparency and updated records on here so it is appreciated. Not that I have had any interest or followed this guy's picks at all but for the good of the forum in general, threads should be well represented, honest and transparent from the get go.
I find it hard to believe that he actually says he has a growing email list from posters on here. I've been here a long while now and most are somewhat a fickle bunch who are happy to follow when you're hot and quick to disappear or bash when you get cold. This guy has rarely ever been "hot" since posting, so to say that his email list is growing and has had many pm's just doesn't add up nor convince me. To me, it just shows as some sort of marketing ploy because he knows full well that his thread is constantly on the first page with 20K views and counting.
Lastly, I think I've only seen him win one or two MLB exhibition games since he started posting MLB. Quite obviously he isn't one of those "75%" handicappers in MLB and NFL preseason. Whatever this "system" is that he uses and this "syndicate" he belongs to (presumably Animals who have apparently been terrible lately), they seriously need to go back to the drawing board.

Yes, you figured me out.  The master of the "marketing ploys".

For a guy who has shown absolutely no interest in ANYONE's money, or compensation from anyone, trust me...I don't need it, ....my marketing techniques are so fantastic! -_-

Funny....when my thread has a POSITIVE record, troy, killa, and "trigg" had NOTHING to say....

They each individually has PLENTY they could say about me, but voiced NOTHING,....why?  Because my overall record on this thread was POSITIVE....

But, .....here's what you guys don't get.....you are exposing NOTHING.  You are stopping NOTHING...you are effecting NOTHING.  I have no service to sell.  To reputation to maintain.  People are not testing my picks out on a "try before you buy"...LOL.  I gain NOTHING sharing my picks here every day.  

If I have 2 winning months and one losing month, that does not make me a losing sports bettor.  I don't care HOW much I said I make....if I have a week where I win 20-30 units, I'm quite sure that erases a -9 unit deficit.  LOL  I mean cmon now.....why didn't you guys say ANYTHING about how you really felt about me when I was WINNING?  LOL....

This is why, all three of you, are now on my ignore list...and YES....my email list still grows...why?  BECAUSE YOU GUYS!

Yes...that's right...you guys spend SO MUCH TIME, to try to BASH ONE GUY.....you make people wonder.  ESPECIALLY....and I repeat.....ESPECIALLY...since I am asking for NOTHING IN RETURN for the picks I put up here.  

ANd will NEVER ask for anytyhing in return.  Trust me...and the people that follow me know...>I do not need anything from anyone.  And no matter what gets said here...we will keep on betting.  Losing streaks happen.  If you're going to sit here and make up things about what I say and have said, to fit your ridiculous agenda....you are only going to help draw more attention to me....LOL  

You don't realize that.  Your campaign is working against you.  Especially, if any of you three are apart of a TOUT trying to redirect attention.  Sorry I messed up your business....really...you need to do something more honest with your life, instead of conning people out of sending you money for sports picks....

Here?  People can get picks for free.   So you're going to hold on for dear LIFE the fact that I have been getting killed this month?  To use as your argument that I ALWAYS lose?  LMAO!!!!!!!

And that's the basis of your argument?  My performance for just MARCH??

Before this month?  I was up +10 units overall. Any of you say that's a lie?  I will post each and every pick I posted in this thread with the wins and losses......

This has been a bad month.....get over it...you guys are not going to make the people that follow me? Follow you and eventually join your tout services....pleasee.....

LOL

Notice the sarcasm....

The three of you?  are on ignore.....by me...and haven't you noticed?  My followers as well.

They're still following my picks....because I CAN and WILL win....losing streaks happen.  End of discussion. :)

Best wishes to you! :)
 
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Your "ignore list" is bigger than your mythical "email list"

I'd like to point out that I have no agenda and do pretty well BY myself FOR myself. No tout business nor am I out to "expose" anyone. I just simply appreciate Troyz input more than I do yours, simply because he is also all for transparency and record keeping. I don't understand why that is so difficult to do that. Like he said, if you're a "pro", it should readily be available. But as always, your argument is that you have nothing to prove anyone. Isn't the whole point of posting your picks on a forum being trying to prove that you are a good handicapper and here to help? Funny how there is VERY little posts by your supposed followers throughout your thread yet they are all apparently tripping over each other to get on your email list. LOL! Pull the other one, pal.

You just do what you do. I already expressed my own mind to Troyz, not you, Troyz. So you obviously felt the need to reply directly to me and now added me to your "ignore list" (Oh diddums! ). Like Troyz, I remember you going through other threads and giving it the large one and you did come across a real arrogant, condescending prick, of which you did openly admit about that. I gave you a benefit of the doubt but unfortunately a leopard never changes its spots.

As for your performance, Troyz has obviously been putting work into it, so will go by what he came up with since you obviously can't be bothered to do it. So you've had a bad month and rightly admit to it, but then it's all okay because you will be (conveniently) leaving the forum for a few months and focus on your "growing email list". If your MLB picks are anything to go by, then I sure wish your "email followers" all the luck because they're going to need it!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Trigg:

Your "ignore list" is bigger than your mythical "email list"

I'd like to point out that I have no agenda and do pretty well BY myself FOR myself. No tout business nor am I out to "expose" anyone. I just simply appreciate Troyz input more than I do yours, simply because he is also all for transparency and record keeping. I don't understand why that is so difficult to do that. Like he said, if you're a "pro", it should readily be available. But as always, your argument is that you have nothing to prove anyone. Isn't the whole point of posting your picks on a forum being trying to prove that you are a good handicapper and here to help? Funny how there is VERY little posts by your supposed followers throughout your thread yet they are all apparently tripping over each other to get on your email list. LOL! Pull the other one, pal.

You just do what you do. I already expressed my own mind to Troyz, not you, Troyz. So you obviously felt the need to reply directly to me and now added me to your "ignore list" (Oh diddums! ). Like Troyz, I remember you going through other threads and giving it the large one and you did come across a real arrogant, condescending prick, of which you did openly admit about that. I gave you a benefit of the doubt but unfortunately a leopard never changes its spots.

As for your performance, Troyz has obviously been putting work into it, so will go by what he came up with since you obviously can't be bothered to do it. So you've had a bad month and rightly admit to it, but then it's all okay because you will be (conveniently) leaving the forum for a few months and focus on your "growing email list". If your MLB picks are anything to go by, then I sure wish your "email followers" all the luck because they're going to need it!

You expressed your own mind to troyz....TROYZ directly and ONLY....yet you did it publicly on the forum in my thread.  Thus drawing attention to your PERSONAL expression to TROYZ directly and only.  Couldn't do it via pm?

Of course not.....you guys MUST draw attention to your thoughts, ideologies and opinions.  lol...

Fact of the matter is this.  Takes 20 minutes (maybe less) to go through the pages of the picks I posted since starting this thread...and you will see...BEFORE the slide started in march?  I was ahead. During the time when I was MOST hated (for whatever reason...not my problem, I'm not here to console anyone's feelings)...I was WINNING.

Now....the inevitable happens...I'm on a slide...NOW...it ALL comes out..."itsonnow1 is a loser and ALWAYS has been"...

"itsonnow1 was NEVER able to win and never will be able to win"...

"Itsonnow1 lied about ever making this much money....especially now that he has been LOSING...that means his WINNING was really LOSING"....

LOL!!

You type of forum people are in every forum.  I only PUBLICLY stated I was going to ignore you three, because I want to join the fun....I want to PUBLICLY state what I feel or think...when it's MOST convenient for me to do so.

I wonder how often you guys will post in my thread when I am winning?... LOL!!!!

Which will happen.....I can't wait to see how often I am "exposed" then.  LMAO!!!!!!!!

Best wishes to you guys! :)  You have DEFINITELY helped bring more attention to this thread than I EVER could....even when I started the thread, I almost never spoke about it in other threads and HARDLY got any attention to it...

Because of you three??  ESPECIALLY troyz (mind as well hire the guy to work for me....oops, that's right, I don't have any thing for him to market.....oh wait, I do....my picks service....wait?....I have a picks service?.....OH.....no wonder I've had something to prove all along! LOL!!!)......

If it wasn't for TROYZ?  I would NEVER have gotten this much attention.  I honestly did not want it.....I only cared to help a few members, on an individual basis, make money.   Which I have......and will continue to do...but thanks to you guys?  I have much much more people to help.  

I guess I can thank you?  ;)

Now, let's see how fun you guys are when my win streak starts..... What will be the next tactic?  "Oh it's just 10 wins....."

"Oh, it's just 20 wins, doesn't mean anything".....

LOL!!!
 
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"Itsonnow1" says that nobody was onto him while he was up?  When was that?  The dude started down 10.5 units in his first two days on here.  

HE finished JANUARY @  -6.5 units!!!  Believe it or not, there were people questioning him then and he was playing the same card...saying that people were just using a small sample and not the whole picture.  Well damnit...the whole picture will be shown!!

This guy has been digging himself out of a hole since the first day he posted a pick.

He can deflect all he wants.  He is pretty much ignored by me...im gonna do what I said I would do regardless of his toddler like jibberish.

 
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The reason that I didnt call him out then was because I wasnt coming into this forum at all.  My first post in this forum EVER was in like End of Feb or March.  I came in here to get some information here and there about player props.  To which I started my own thread creating a documented, verified and transparent record showing my win/loss, my profit/loss in units and the dollar amount I was ahead or down.

Since then a couple others that are really into player props and we now team up thru email...and all of us are doing quite well our OWN way.  And no we dont charge each other for information!!  LOL.

As I was going thru different threads I kept coming across this blowhard and his advice.  He was calling everyone "degens".  I responded to a couple of his posts and he went ape sh!t...not cool calm and collected as he proclaims.  So it was on...the facts are what they are.

Notice his posts are lengthy, but not in verifying anything--just more deflecting.  No transparency whatsoever...hes not a pro...if he is, he is broke and so is anyone else tailing him from the beginning, the middle or the last two weeks...lol.
 
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BTW...one of this blowhards CLAIMS is that he never has big losing streaks.  He made the claim when he first came on here...THAT IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN HIS SYSTEM!!!

Basically, that he doesnt finish the month negative or even a week, because he manages money so well and that his system is just that good.  So I dont know where he comes off saying he has nothing to prove.  When you make claims like that...you have a lot to prove, buddy.  Why dont you start by having a little respect for your fellow human beings.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


You expressed your own mind to troyz....TROYZ directly and ONLY....yet you did it publicly on the forum in my thread.  Thus drawing attention to your PERSONAL expression to TROYZ directly and only.  Couldn't do it via pm?

Of course not.....you guys MUST draw attention to your thoughts, ideologies and opinions.  lol...

Fact of the matter is this.  Takes 20 minutes (maybe less) to go through the pages of the picks I posted since starting this thread...and you will see...BEFORE the slide started in march?  I was ahead. During the time when I was MOST hated (for whatever reason...not my problem, I'm not here to console anyone's feelings)...I was WINNING.

Now....the inevitable happens...I'm on a slide...NOW...it ALL comes out..."itsonnow1 is a loser and ALWAYS has been"...

"itsonnow1 was NEVER able to win and never will be able to win"...

"Itsonnow1 lied about ever making this much money....especially now that he has been LOSING...that means his WINNING was really LOSING"....

LOL!!

You type of forum people are in every forum.  I only PUBLICLY stated I was going to ignore you three, because I want to join the fun....I want to PUBLICLY state what I feel or think...when it's MOST convenient for me to do so.

I wonder how often you guys will post in my thread when I am winning?... LOL!!!!

Which will happen.....I can't wait to see how often I am "exposed" then.  LMAO!!!!!!!!

Best wishes to you guys! :)  You have DEFINITELY helped bring more attention to this thread than I EVER could....even when I started the thread, I almost never spoke about it in other threads and HARDLY got any attention to it...

Because of you three??  ESPECIALLY troyz (mind as well hire the guy to work for me....oops, that's right, I don't have any thing for him to market.....oh wait, I do....my picks service....wait?....I have a picks service?.....OH.....no wonder I've had something to prove all along! LOL!!!)......

If it wasn't for TROYZ?  I would NEVER have gotten this much attention.  I honestly did not want it.....I only cared to help a few members, on an individual basis, make money.   Which I have......and will continue to do...but thanks to you guys?  I have much much more people to help.  

I guess I can thank you?  ;)

Now, let's see how fun you guys are when my win streak starts..... What will be the next tactic?  "Oh it's just 10 wins....."

"Oh, it's just 20 wins, doesn't mean anything".....

LOL!!!
You are such a douche.  YOU SAID WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE THAT IT NEVER HAPPENS...NEVER WILL HAPPEN IN YOUR SYSTEM!!!  Didnt you?  Do you wanna see your own words?

Thats what I mean...everyone of your claims are debunked by your own words...the comment in red is the latest.

You cant even remember what you say, what your record is...youre a con, just as I suspected...just as I will prove.

Your record will be posted along with your claims...im done messing around with your bs.

Put and keep me on ignore...this is not meant for you...you are a lost cause.  This is for anyone new venturing into this thread or any other thread your head pops up in.

There is no more damaging evidence against your own claims, then right here in your own thread...lol.  You simply cant keep track of all your bs so you trip over yourself constantly.  

You are a prosecutors golden ticket and a defense attorneys worst nightmare.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

Did any of you count the exact amount of units I am up in this small thread?  Or did you just skim through the thread and pick out the losses and wins you WANTED to track?

LOL

You guys!  -_-

Here is another taste of what's to come:

Here is a quote (see bold red above) from "itsonnow1" from PAGE 2 of this thread:

His quote above is timestamped 2/9/2015.

He says that as of that date he was winning overall in this thread....FALSE!!!

First of all he ended January @ -6.5 units.  His first play in February was 2/8/2015...he had a two unit play that won, so he is still down -4.5 units overall at the time of this post.  AND GUESS WHAT?  AS OF 30 MAR 2015, HE IS STILL DOWN - 4.5 UNITS OVERALL...LOL.

Here is another example of what he does all the time...he gets questioned and then makes this claim that he is somehow up overall and that people are just out to get him when he loses.  

He makes the distinct CLAIM that he was up on this date, when in fact, he was still down considerably from the previous month...this guy is supposedly some high rolling pro that doesnt even know his own record from one day to the next.  

THIS IS WHY, FOR HIS OWN GOOD, HE SHOULD POST AN OVERALL DAILY.  It would stop the bs claims immediately!!
 
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Well...Mr Pro lost both plays again today for a total of -5 units.

Just since 3/26/2015 he is the following:

W/L:   7-13 

Profit/Loss: -14 Units ( - $70,000.00)

His overall results will be posted tomorrow at the end of the day so that the full month of March can be reflected.  Wouldnt want to misrepresent him ya know!...lol.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


Yes, you figured me out.  The master of the "marketing ploys".

For a guy who has shown absolutely no interest in ANYONE's money, or compensation from anyone, trust me...I don't need it, ....my marketing techniques are so fantastic! -_-

Funny....when my thread has a POSITIVE record, troy, killa, and "trigg" had NOTHING to say....

They each individually has PLENTY they could say about me, but voiced NOTHING,....why?  Because my overall record on this thread was POSITIVE....

But, .....here's what you guys don't get.....you are exposing NOTHING.  You are stopping NOTHING...you are effecting NOTHING.  I have no service to sell.  To reputation to maintain.  People are not testing my picks out on a "try before you buy"...LOL.  I gain NOTHING sharing my picks here every day.  

If I have 2 winning months and one losing month, that does not make me a losing sports bettor.  I don't care HOW much I said I make....if I have a week where I win 20-30 units, I'm quite sure that erases a -9 unit deficit.  LOL  I mean cmon now.....why didn't you guys say ANYTHING about how you really felt about me when I was WINNING?  LOL....

This is why, all three of you, are now on my ignore list...and YES....my email list still grows...why?  BECAUSE YOU GUYS!

Yes...that's right...you guys spend SO MUCH TIME, to try to BASH ONE GUY.....you make people wonder.  ESPECIALLY....and I repeat.....ESPECIALLY...since I am asking for NOTHING IN RETURN for the picks I put up here.  

ANd will NEVER ask for anytyhing in return.  Trust me...and the people that follow me know...>I do not need anything from anyone.  And no matter what gets said here...we will keep on betting.  Losing streaks happen.  If you're going to sit here and make up things about what I say and have said, to fit your ridiculous agenda....you are only going to help draw more attention to me....LOL  

You don't realize that.  Your campaign is working against you.  Especially, if any of you three are apart of a TOUT trying to redirect attention.  Sorry I messed up your business....really...you need to do something more honest with your life, instead of conning people out of sending you money for sports picks....

Here?  People can get picks for free.   So you're going to hold on for dear LIFE the fact that I have been getting killed this month?  To use as your argument that I ALWAYS lose?  LMAO!!!!!!!

And that's the basis of your argument?  My performance for just MARCH??

Before this month?  I was up +10 units overall. Any of you say that's a lie?  I will post each and every pick I posted in this thread with the wins and losses......

This has been a bad month.....get over it...you guys are not going to make the people that follow me? Follow you and eventually join your tout services....pleasee.....

LOL

Notice the sarcasm....

The three of you?  are on ignore.....by me...and haven't you noticed?  My followers as well.

They're still following my picks....because I CAN and WILL win....losing streaks happen.  End of discussion. :)

Best wishes to you! :)

So much bs in this post, I dont even know where to start.

1.  You said you were up +10 units overall before this month?  Thats a LIE...You were -6.5 units for January...you were +9 units for the month of Feb...that puts you at +2.5 units overall....NOT 10.
-- So go ahead and post your plays...I have every one sitting on paper right in front of me...I can tell you who you picked, on what date for how many units and whether it won or lost...AT A GLANCE.  So go for it, bud!!

2.  You said you could have 2 winning months and one losing month?
-- ACTUALLY you have 2 BIG losing months (Jan and Mar) and one winning month (Feb)...so why dont you just stop exaggerating your record?  You did the same with your so called "streaks".  You have no integrity....you arent transparent and you shouldnt be trusted.
 
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For someone who supposedly has nothing to prove or promote, you sure do lie alot, "itsonnow1"....and i dont use that term loosely.  You have lied repeatedly on here.  

Oh and dont say anyone can take 20 minutes and calculate everything for themselves.  Thats a laugh....Im a finance major and it took me about 3 hours to do this...maybe more.

And quit telling people you arent doing it to make money...no one is accusing you of that...I dont know of anyone that really thinks you could make money at it if you wanted to.  Thats not the purpose of this outing.  The purpose is to HELP those that just come in here thinking they are getting a pick from a supposed millionaire high roller with a fool proof system laying 5k behind every pick....its all bs to falsely boost your credibility that you had not earned.

More to come on you, sir...I aint done with you yet!!!  This is the peak of the iceberg.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TROYZBOYZ:


So much bs in this post, I dont even know where to start.

1.  You said you were up +10 units overall before this month?  Thats a LIE...You were -6.5 units for January...you were +9 units for the month of Feb...that puts you at +2.5 units overall....NOT 10.
-- So go ahead and post your plays...I have every one sitting on paper right in front of me...I can tell you who you picked, on what date for how many units and whether it won or lost...AT A GLANCE.  So go for it, bud!!

2.  You said you could have 2 winning months and one losing month?
-- ACTUALLY you have 2 BIG losing months (Jan and Mar) and one winning month (Feb)...so why dont you just stop exaggerating your record?  You did the same with your so called "streaks".  You have no integrity....you arent transparent and you shouldnt be trusted.

So much obsession isn't healthy anymore dude. Seriously, going through 22 pages full of picks of another man, trying to prove your point, writing post after post after post, with a result that has zero effect on the world... There are a trillion better things to do with your life than that.

Even if you're right (which I don't know, I've got no interest in reading pages of the same crap, going back and forth but running around in circles at the same time), it's still a public forum where he isn't by any means breaking a law or committing a crime or something. He isn't even asking for anything from nobody. He just gives his picks for free, and everyone can do what they want with them. Yet, you still act like this thread need some kind of Sherlock Holmes to figure out where and when the guy lied and "how we're going to catch him".

Give it a break, my friend. Spend the hours you normally spend on analyzing this thread on research for your own picks, you'll feel much happier ;).
 
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So much obsession isn't healthy anymore dude. Seriously, going through 22 pages full of picks of another man, trying to prove your point, writing post after post after post, with a result that has zero effect on the world... There are a trillion better things to do with your life than that.

Even if you're right (which I don't know, I've got no interest in reading pages of the same crap, going back and forth but running around in circles at the same time), it's still a public forum where he isn't by any means breaking a law or committing a crime or something. He isn't even asking for anything from nobody. He just gives his picks for free, and everyone can do what they want with them. Yet, you still act like this thread need some kind of Sherlock Holmes to figure out where and when the guy lied and "how we're going to catch him".

Give it a break, my friend. Spend the hours you normally spend on analyzing this thread on research for your own picks, you'll feel much happier ;).
It looks like any only your 3rd post ever on this forum, you are developing an obsession of your own.

I will continue doing what I said i would do...if that doesnt meet your approval then by all means go to another thread.

Your ire should be directed at the exposed liar, but instead you direct it at me...and what do you mean you dont know who is right?  Can you not read?  Its right there in plain site...you have no excuse to be ignorant.
 
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Here is the latest coming up on "itsonnow1" :

1.  Complete 3 month results have been tallied
2.  At least 6 SUPER Claims completely debunked using his own words (inlcuding that 7 day positive bet streak end of feb-mar)
3.  Think im the only one suspicious or questioning?  There are several in here that are/have.

A monthly breakdown of January, February and March along with overall results coming up...stay tuned!!  It aint pretty 


Here is a little taste:

He said "I make more in a week than most people make in a year"

FALSE!!!  Over a 3-month period (the length he has been posting picks) he has a net loss of $22,250...he has bet in only 9 of the 12 weeks (Jan 5- Mar 29th)...so... 

1)  His WEEKLY profit/loss average is:

NEGATIVE $2,472.22/wk (-22,250 / 9 weeks)

2)  His MONTHLY profit/loss average is:

NEGATIVE $9,888.89/mo (-22,250 / 2.25 months)

He has told everyone to go back themselves and verify in this thread, so I did...MORE to come!

Anyone wondering why he doesnt take the time to update his record to make it easier on those he says he wants to help...You will find out why real soon.


Why keep going back and forth with him. Everyone who has been following his plays knows he has not been doing well over the last several weeks. Point is........he has not been good lately, but it is time to drop this drama.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TROYZBOYZ:

It looks like any only your 3rd post ever on this forum, you are developing an obsession of your own.

I will continue doing what I said i would do...if that doesnt meet your approval then by all means go to another thread.

Your ire should be directed at the exposed liar, but instead you direct it at me...and what do you mean you dont know who is right?  Can you not read?  Its right there in plain site...you have no excuse to be ignorant.

Me, obsessed? Haha no sir, I've skimmed through this forum for a long time looking for picks and information. And you keep this thread more alive than any other thread, so yeah everyday I once look in here and keep seeing you running around in circles asking myself why is he doing this?

Just let the guy give his picks, if he wins, he wins, if he loses, he loses... But hey that's my opinion, if you think it's necessary to spend hours proving your point on a forum, go ahead.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by jesseke:


Me, obsessed? Haha no sir, I've skimmed through this forum for a long time looking for picks and information. And you keep this thread more alive than any other thread, so yeah everyday I once look in here and keep seeing you running around in circles asking myself why is he doing this?

Just let the guy give his picks, if he wins, he wins, if he loses, he loses... But hey that's my opinion, if you think it's necessary to spend hours proving your point on a forum, go ahead.




So it doesn't matter if this fantasist continues to make false statements about being up on units overall (when he isn't at all) and the amount of money he wagers in an attempt to back up his credibility, people will just follow along regardless?
So his picks are free but the simple (and obvious) fact is that this guy is a big bullshltter with regards to his units. Like Troyz said, there's a reason why he doesn't keep an updated record and is constantly deflecting, saying that we are only bashing him when he is down.
Maybe, since you have supposedly "skimmed through the forum for a long time", you should check this fantasist's post history and see for yourself what an arrogant, egotistical, condescending little prick he really is.
 
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Me, obsessed? Haha no sir, I've skimmed through this forum for a long time looking for picks and information. And you keep this thread more alive than any other thread, so yeah everyday I once look in here and keep seeing you running around in circles asking myself why is he doing this?

Just let the guy give his picks, if he wins, he wins, if he loses, he loses... But hey that's my opinion, if you think it's necessary to spend hours proving your point on a forum, go ahead.



So a guy lies and makes false claims...then uses those lies and false claims to lure people into the thread to follow and play his picks.

When questioned, he makes a personal challenge us to go all the way back thru the thread to verify for ourselves that his claims/record/profit is what he says it is.  When I do, then lemmings like you come in and have a problem with the exposing lies and deception.

Who knows how long he would go on like this and who knows how many people would be fooled by his claims.  So I decided to stop doubting and verify...you are seeing the result of it.  If you dont like it, then you can skip the thread and go elsewhere.

But it was he that issued the challenge...I just decided to take him up on it.  I did a one month verification for march and that didnt stop him...he then said he was misrepresented and ridiculed the results as nothing more than cherry picked results...so yes... now his challenge was accepted and the truth will come out.  But dont blame me...he is the liar and he is the one that issued the personal challenge.  I took him up on it, because I can be that anal when Im on your case.  He was warned way in advance and he mocked it, so here we go.

It always cracks me up when guys like yourself come in here and claim to be uninterested but have such a problem with others outing a liar.  Like we should have better things to do...well the hard work is done for me...he could have then and now copped to it long ago...but he decided to make someone comb thru all of the pages and dig...you think Im gonna throw away that work just because you say so?  NOT.  

If the actual results arent your cup of tea, then this is not for you...its for others that would appreciate the real numbers about a guys claiming to be a millionaire, with a fool proof system that will make you fortunes if you just follow his lead.

How do we know that he isnt on here using it as a test dummy to gather a following, then you go private email, then you ask for $$?

I could really care less what he says he will or will not do...he cant be trusted.

This is to put his record out front so that people will not come in and unknowingly be fooled by a straight up con.  You dont see that...you think it should be ignored.  I let the record speak for itself and if it helps just one person be the wiser when trusting a play of his, then the purpose is satisfied.  This isnt for guys like yourself who think its a waste of time, its for those that come in and may never post, but will stay away from this con.

Its not like hes being lied about...it just his straight up record...he should be welcoming it, but if you notice...evertime the results are given to him, he deflects and comes up with some excuse, like its not a large enough sample or that its not indicative of his long term results or that his overall record has been misrepresented.
 
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So it doesn't matter if this fantasist continues to make false statements about being up on units overall (when he isn't at all) and the amount of money he wagers in an attempt to back up his credibility, people will just follow along regardless?
So his picks are free but the simple (and obvious) fact is that this guy is a big bullshltter with regards to his units. Like Troyz said, there's a reason why he doesn't keep an updated record and is constantly deflecting, saying that we are only bashing him when he is down.
Maybe, since you have supposedly "skimmed through the forum for a long time", you should check this fantasist's post history and see for yourself what an arrogant, egotistical, condescending little prick he really is.
Nail on the head, trigg.  He will prey on the "nothing to see here" crowd.

But people need to remember, that it was his arrogant azz that dared me to go back and verify.  And it was he that could have nipped this in the bud a months ago by simpley posting his record.  Instead its hidden in the pages and once in awhile he just makes up a claim...well how the hell would anyone know if that claim was true or not?

Never invest without a prospectus.  His prospectus is about to be billboarded...then people can decide for themselves.  If it helps a few people then great...if it pizzes a few off in the meantime?  So be it.


 
 
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You expressed your own mind to troyz....TROYZ directly and ONLY....yet you did it publicly on the forum in my thread.  Thus drawing attention to your PERSONAL expression to TROYZ directly and only.  Couldn't do it via pm?

Of course not.....you guys MUST draw attention to your thoughts, ideologies and opinions.  lol...

Fact of the matter is this.  Takes 20 minutes (maybe less) to go through the pages of the picks I posted since starting this thread...and you will see...BEFORE the slide started in march?  I was ahead. During the time when I was MOST hated (for whatever reason...not my problem, I'm not here to console anyone's feelings)...I was WINNING.

Now....the inevitable happens...I'm on a slide...NOW...it ALL comes out..."itsonnow1 is a loser and ALWAYS has been"...

"itsonnow1 was NEVER able to win and never will be able to win"...

"Itsonnow1 lied about ever making this much money....especially now that he has been LOSING...that means his WINNING was really LOSING"....

LOL!!

You type of forum people are in every forum.  I only PUBLICLY stated I was going to ignore you three, because I want to join the fun....I want to PUBLICLY state what I feel or think...when it's MOST convenient for me to do so.

I wonder how often you guys will post in my thread when I am winning?... LOL!!!!

Which will happen.....I can't wait to see how often I am "exposed" then.  LMAO!!!!!!!!

Best wishes to you guys! :)  You have DEFINITELY helped bring more attention to this thread than I EVER could....even when I started the thread, I almost never spoke about it in other threads and HARDLY got any attention to it...

Because of you three??  ESPECIALLY troyz (mind as well hire the guy to work for me....oops, that's right, I don't have any thing for him to market.....oh wait, I do....my picks service....wait?....I have a picks service?.....OH.....no wonder I've had something to prove all along! LOL!!!)......

If it wasn't for TROYZ?  I would NEVER have gotten this much attention.  I honestly did not want it.....I only cared to help a few members, on an individual basis, make money.   Which I have......and will continue to do...but thanks to you guys?  I have much much more people to help.  

I guess I can thank you?  ;)

Now, let's see how fun you guys are when my win streak starts..... What will be the next tactic?  "Oh it's just 10 wins....."

"Oh, it's just 20 wins, doesn't mean anything".....

LOL!!!


This is an open and public forum the last time I checked so I'm well within my right to express my opinion and mind to another poster other than the topic starter. This isn't YOUR thread, it is no one's but the property of Covers Media Group Ltd. As much as you'd like to think it is YOUR thread, I'm sorry but anyone is free to openly express their thoughts and opinions in an open and public forum. So why the need for pm's :) It's not my problem if you throw your toys out of your pram about it and decide to be ignorance (which you've yet to do at this point with me even though you said you intended to do - make your mind up!)

I'm not trying to draw attention nor trying to "expose" anyone, like I said, I just simply expressed my thoughts and shared my appreciation to Troyz for seeking the truthful facts and information.

"I wonder how often you guys will post in my thread when I am winning?... LOL!!!!

Which will happen.....I can't wait to see how often I am "exposed" then.  LMAO!!!!!!!!"

Paranoid much? :) But yeah, go right ahead, big shot, I have no qualms about anyone winning as long as they can walk the talk and back up their statements in a truthful, transparent and honest way. You have failed to do so up til now, as Troyz has proven.
This would mean of course that you will still be around in the coming weeks and months so will look forward to seeing what you're supposedly capable of.

You have helped a few members on an individual basis, make money? Really?! On the evidence being laid down on these pages, it appears to be quite the contrary! I saw you offered to help another poster recently on the forum who was new and seeking help. He/she was in the forum a few days later and started a topic saying he/she was down to just 40 odd dollars. I'd hate to think he/she did in fact pm you for picks and lost his/her money.

"Now, let's see how fun you guys are when my win streak starts..... What will be the next tactic?  "Oh it's just 10 wins....."

"Oh, it's just 20 wins, doesn't mean anything"....."

You can barely get a streak of 2 most of the time so again, show us what you're supposedly capable then, big shot. Isn't this evident that you are trying to prove something by the way? Yet all along you keep saying you're not here to prove anything. Make your mind up, pal!

LOL!


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