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    Hit it up: HUGE PROFIT to be made on the Knicks tomorrow night by fading Linsanity (with write-up)

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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:39 AM ET #1

    Game: Knicks @ Rockets
    Line: Knicks -4 (you can still find it at 3.5 too on Bovada as of this posting)

    Linsanity is a thing of the past right? A fleeting moment in Knicks history that is no longer relevant. 

    Well let me give you a wake-up call. To the Knicks, in their first game against Jeremy Lin, it is very, very relevant. 

    Felton, the guy who the Knicks signed may just have the game of his life against Lin. That will be combined with Kidd making a point to show him up as much as possible in this game as well. 

    The Knicks will smother Lin. You will see turnovers and some of the most aggressive D possible to ensure Lin doesn't do anything of consequence in the box score against the Knicks. Lin will score and get some assists because he does have talent, but this will NOT be a Linsanity type game of last year.

    Therefore, in my view, this will be a 4 on 5. So how will the rest of the team fair against the Rockets? The Knicks have the best point differential in the league (Offensive output - Defensive Pts allowed). Why is this important? Listen to the top teams in the league in Pt Differential last year: Miami, Chicago, OKC, San Antonio, and Boston.

    Needless to say, Pt Differential determines playoff teams and champions.

    The Knicks are playoff, and at this point, championship material. 

    Curious about the Rockets Pt. Differential this year? -1.1

    They are an average to a below average team playing one of the best, if not the best team in the league at this point. Remember the Knicks smoked the Heat opening night and beat San Antonio in their house this year. The only reason they have two losses is because the second leg of both games were on B2B's, one against Memphis (the other Dallas) who is another elite team in the West. Without the B2B's the Knicks could easily be undefeated as the rest of their wins are by significant margins and are no fluke.

    The Knicks are winning games no in ways that are, amazingly, boring. They are almost TOO efficient (see the recent win over the Hornets). 

    So what's the opening line? -4 Knicks.

    Guys, this line is ideal. I'm making this one of the biggest plays this year thusfar given I'm so comfortable with them covering it.

    So to summarize:

    We have what may be the best team in the league, offensively and defensively, going against an average to below average team coupled with the extra motivation to show up the guy who created hysteria in their city (and worldwide) and leave Houston with a convincing win. 

    The ONLY con I can think of is that the Knicks likely didn't practice today and may have fattened themselves up a bit too much with family with stuffing and mash. But even at that, the Rockets likely didn't practice as well and fattened themselves up like the rest of the league and America as well. Otherwise, there is NO REASON you shouldn't pound this line for all of the reasons above.

    This is not a trap line, just a bad one at the moment for you to take advantage of. Forget your unwarranted fear of the public pounding/what vegas knows that we don't! Sometimes that is warranted but not in this game. Let Vegas take a bath on this one while you profit.

    The pick:

    KNICKS -4 over Rockets
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    Game: Knicks @ Rockets
    Line: Knicks -4 (you can still find it at 3.5 too on Bovada as of this posting)

    Linsanity is a thing of the past right? A fleeting moment in Knicks history that is no longer relevant. 

    Well let me give you a wake-up call. To the Knicks, in their first game against Jeremy Lin, it is very, very relevant. 

    Felton, the guy who the Knicks signed may just have the game of his life against Lin. That will be combined with Kidd making a point to show him up as much as possible in this game as well. 

    The Knicks will smother Lin. You will see turnovers and some of the most aggressive D possible to ensure Lin doesn't do anything of consequence in the box score against the Knicks. Lin will score and get some assists because he does have talent, but this will NOT be a Linsanity type game of last year.

    Therefore, in my view, this will be a 4 on 5. So how will the rest of the team fair against the Rockets? The Knicks have the best point differential in the league (Offensive output - Defensive Pts allowed). Why is this important? Listen to the top teams in the league in Pt Differential last year: Miami, Chicago, OKC, San Antonio, and Boston.

    Needless to say, Pt Differential determines playoff teams and champions.

    The Knicks are playoff, and at this point, championship material. 

    Curious about the Rockets Pt. Differential this year? -1.1

    They are an average to a below average team playing one of the best, if not the best team in the league at this point. Remember the Knicks smoked the Heat opening night and beat San Antonio in their house this year. The only reason they have two losses is because the second leg of both games were on B2B's, one against Memphis (the other Dallas) who is another elite team in the West. Without the B2B's the Knicks could easily be undefeated as the rest of their wins are by significant margins and are no fluke.

    The Knicks are winning games no in ways that are, amazingly, boring. They are almost TOO efficient (see the recent win over the Hornets). 

    So what's the opening line? -4 Knicks.

    Guys, this line is ideal. I'm making this one of the biggest plays this year thusfar given I'm so comfortable with them covering it.

    So to summarize:

    We have what may be the best team in the league, offensively and defensively, going against an average to below average team coupled with the extra motivation to show up the guy who created hysteria in their city (and worldwide) and leave Houston with a convincing win. 

    The ONLY con I can think of is that the Knicks likely didn't practice today and may have fattened themselves up a bit too much with family with stuffing and mash. But even at that, the Rockets likely didn't practice as well and fattened themselves up like the rest of the league and America as well. Otherwise, there is NO REASON you shouldn't pound this line for all of the reasons above.

    This is not a trap line, just a bad one at the moment for you to take advantage of. Forget your unwarranted fear of the public pounding/what vegas knows that we don't! Sometimes that is warranted but not in this game. Let Vegas take a bath on this one while you profit.

    The pick:

    KNICKS -4 over Rockets
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:45 AM ET #2

    Oh, and as a side note, coming off the nail-biter loss to Dallas 2 nights prior will give them a little extra pep in their step in this one.
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    Oh, and as a side note, coming off the nail-biter loss to Dallas 2 nights prior will give them a little extra pep in their step in this one.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:06 AM ET #3

    Now would they travel back to new york on thursday and fly back to texas on thursday? Or would they stay as a team in the texas area?

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    Now would they travel back to new york on thursday and fly back to texas on thursday? Or would they stay as a team in the texas area?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:15 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuddles:

    Now would they travel back to new york on thursday and fly back to texas on thursday? Or would they stay as a team in the texas area?


    I found this on twitter:

    Marcus Camby hosted the "fellas for Thanksgiving" in Houston, according to Ronnie Brewer. Nice gesture by Camby.


    Makes sense not to fly them back and forth on the worst travel days of the year when they are already in state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuddles:

    Now would they travel back to new york on thursday and fly back to texas on thursday? Or would they stay as a team in the texas area?


    I found this on twitter:

    Marcus Camby hosted the "fellas for Thanksgiving" in Houston, according to Ronnie Brewer. Nice gesture by Camby.


    Makes sense not to fly them back and forth on the worst travel days of the year when they are already in state.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #5

    Ok so they stop Lin, what about the other 4 players? Harden especially he can get 30 this game, if he needs to. I think it'll be a close game, Knicks might win but could be by 2-3 points.
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    Ok so they stop Lin, what about the other 4 players? Harden especially he can get 30 this game, if he needs to. I think it'll be a close game, Knicks might win but could be by 2-3 points.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:26 AM ET #6

    Your angles are seen from a narrow scope.  After years of betting on the NBA, I'll tell you one thing, HOME COURT MATTERS.  Now because of your write up and making this your biggest play of the year... I will gladly fade you and take the home team with the points.

    Vegas isn't dumb...and they don't take one game off..  

    I'll be with vegas tomorrow,...

    Good luck with your BIGGEST BET OF THE YEAR!!!! 
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    Your angles are seen from a narrow scope.  After years of betting on the NBA, I'll tell you one thing, HOME COURT MATTERS.  Now because of your write up and making this your biggest play of the year... I will gladly fade you and take the home team with the points.

    Vegas isn't dumb...and they don't take one game off..  

    I'll be with vegas tomorrow,...

    Good luck with your BIGGEST BET OF THE YEAR!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:41 AM ET #7

    I'm playing this as well, Knicks have been getting soft lines. Tuesday night they were only 5.5 point favorites in New Orleans and ended up winning by 22. Remember when Houston hosted that same New Orleans team and barley skated by with a 4 point victory? Sometimes, there are just soft lines. Not every line is a trap. Good write up! 
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    I'm playing this as well, Knicks have been getting soft lines. Tuesday night they were only 5.5 point favorites in New Orleans and ended up winning by 22. Remember when Houston hosted that same New Orleans team and barley skated by with a 4 point victory? Sometimes, there are just soft lines. Not every line is a trap. Good write up! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:55 AM ET #8

    there is only so much you can be favored on the road i mean.. miami was -5.5 the line is accurate.. houston covered and should have won that game, they were up most game but i dont see that happening in this one i expect knicks to come out and play and, at the end of the day.. they do have the better team right now.. Dallas caught them in a good spot thats all..
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    there is only so much you can be favored on the road i mean.. miami was -5.5 the line is accurate.. houston covered and should have won that game, they were up most game but i dont see that happening in this one i expect knicks to come out and play and, at the end of the day.. they do have the better team right now.. Dallas caught them in a good spot thats all..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 4:17 AM ET #9

    BOL guys
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    BOL guys
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 9:39 AM ET #10

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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 9:40 AM ET #11

    "We have what may be the best team in the league, offensively and defensively, going against an average to below average team coupled with the extra motivation to show up the guy who created hysteria in their city (and worldwide) and leave Houston with a convincing win."


    God, you are a moron.  Ever hear of the Miami Heat?

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    "We have what may be the best team in the league, offensively and defensively, going against an average to below average team coupled with the extra motivation to show up the guy who created hysteria in their city (and worldwide) and leave Houston with a convincing win."


    God, you are a moron.  Ever hear of the Miami Heat?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 10:16 AM ET #12

    Interesting plot. I want to root for Lin, but my head says its not gonna happen
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    Interesting plot. I want to root for Lin, but my head says its not gonna happen
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 11:19 AM ET #13

    Good luck , liked the read but had to stop when you said knicks are "championship material." They may beat a shitty Rockets team tonite though absolutely. GL, hope it cashes
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    Good luck , liked the read but had to stop when you said knicks are "championship material." They may beat a shitty Rockets team tonite though absolutely. GL, hope it cashes
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:39 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo10:

    Ok so they stop Lin, what about the other 4 players? Harden especially he can get 30 this game, if he needs to. I think it'll be a close game, Knicks might win but could be by 2-3 points.

    Saying that Harden will score is not a legitimate reason to bet on the Rockets +4. The Knicks know he is averaging 24+ pts per game and will double him appropriately. 

    The problem comes in with exactly what you said: the other 4 players. Who will make up the rest of the offense? Asik? Patterson? Parsons? Douglas? This is why the Rockets are 5-7. They are a young team with a developing roster. Knicks are built to win now and +4 is a bargain in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo10:

    Ok so they stop Lin, what about the other 4 players? Harden especially he can get 30 this game, if he needs to. I think it'll be a close game, Knicks might win but could be by 2-3 points.

    Saying that Harden will score is not a legitimate reason to bet on the Rockets +4. The Knicks know he is averaging 24+ pts per game and will double him appropriately. 

    The problem comes in with exactly what you said: the other 4 players. Who will make up the rest of the offense? Asik? Patterson? Parsons? Douglas? This is why the Rockets are 5-7. They are a young team with a developing roster. Knicks are built to win now and +4 is a bargain in my book.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:40 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgraves:

    Your angles are seen from a narrow scope.  After years of betting on the NBA, I'll tell you one thing, HOME COURT MATTERS.  Now because of your write up and making this your biggest play of the year... I will gladly fade you and take the home team with the points.

    Vegas isn't dumb...and they don't take one game off..  

    I'll be with vegas tomorrow,...

    Good luck with your BIGGEST BET OF THE YEAR!!!! 

    My angles are 'narrow' and this poster comes back with his angle:

    HOME COURT MATTERS!!! 

    Bet on HOME COURT every night because it MATTERS!!! and you will get filleted by the books kid.

    Good luck and have fun fading the pick. It's your right to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpgraves:

    Your angles are seen from a narrow scope.  After years of betting on the NBA, I'll tell you one thing, HOME COURT MATTERS.  Now because of your write up and making this your biggest play of the year... I will gladly fade you and take the home team with the points.

    Vegas isn't dumb...and they don't take one game off..  

    I'll be with vegas tomorrow,...

    Good luck with your BIGGEST BET OF THE YEAR!!!! 

    My angles are 'narrow' and this poster comes back with his angle:

    HOME COURT MATTERS!!! 

    Bet on HOME COURT every night because it MATTERS!!! and you will get filleted by the books kid.

    Good luck and have fun fading the pick. It's your right to do so.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:41 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Fanatic:

    I'm playing this as well, Knicks have been getting soft lines. Tuesday night they were only 5.5 point favorites in New Orleans and ended up winning by 22. Remember when Houston hosted that same New Orleans team and barley skated by with a 4 point victory? Sometimes, there are just soft lines. Not every line is a trap. Good write up! 

    Soft lines is right and tonight is yet another one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Fanatic:

    I'm playing this as well, Knicks have been getting soft lines. Tuesday night they were only 5.5 point favorites in New Orleans and ended up winning by 22. Remember when Houston hosted that same New Orleans team and barley skated by with a 4 point victory? Sometimes, there are just soft lines. Not every line is a trap. Good write up! 

    Soft lines is right and tonight is yet another one...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:42 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by fresh4lyph:

    there is only so much you can be favored on the road i mean.. miami was -5.5 the line is accurate.. houston covered and should have won that game, they were up most game but i dont see that happening in this one i expect knicks to come out and play and, at the end of the day.. they do have the better team right now.. Dallas caught them in a good spot thats all..

    Correct...on a B2B. Knicks would have beat them otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh4lyph:

    there is only so much you can be favored on the road i mean.. miami was -5.5 the line is accurate.. houston covered and should have won that game, they were up most game but i dont see that happening in this one i expect knicks to come out and play and, at the end of the day.. they do have the better team right now.. Dallas caught them in a good spot thats all..

    Correct...on a B2B. Knicks would have beat them otherwise.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    "We have what may be the best team in the league, offensively and defensively, going against an average to below average team coupled with the extra motivation to show up the guy who created hysteria in their city (and worldwide) and leave Houston with a convincing win."


    God, you are a moron.  Ever hear of the Miami Heat?


    Whenever anyone here bets against the Heat with a line with value, think of this poster.

    He is your typical betting lemming that drives up the Heat lines .5/1/1.5 pts. simply because the Heat won the championship last year and "Lebron James is the garbage!"

    Not only did the Knicks beat the Heat this year, handily at that, they have a better winning percentage, have a better Defense, have a far superior pt. differential, and have played teams with better records on the aggregate.

    This of course does not make the Knicks better than the Heat, but right now, the Knicks at Heat line would be about the same as the Heat at Knicks line which basically says that Vegas views them on an even betting plane at the moment. And that is the key: "At the moment". And at the moment, they play the Rockets tonight given all the above which makes this line attractive. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    "We have what may be the best team in the league, offensively and defensively, going against an average to below average team coupled with the extra motivation to show up the guy who created hysteria in their city (and worldwide) and leave Houston with a convincing win."


    God, you are a moron.  Ever hear of the Miami Heat?


    Whenever anyone here bets against the Heat with a line with value, think of this poster.

    He is your typical betting lemming that drives up the Heat lines .5/1/1.5 pts. simply because the Heat won the championship last year and "Lebron James is the garbage!"

    Not only did the Knicks beat the Heat this year, handily at that, they have a better winning percentage, have a better Defense, have a far superior pt. differential, and have played teams with better records on the aggregate.

    This of course does not make the Knicks better than the Heat, but right now, the Knicks at Heat line would be about the same as the Heat at Knicks line which basically says that Vegas views them on an even betting plane at the moment. And that is the key: "At the moment". And at the moment, they play the Rockets tonight given all the above which makes this line attractive. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by manutdfctts9899:

    BOL guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by manutdfctts9899:

    BOL guys
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:51 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by gomburzago:

    Interesting plot. I want to root for Lin, but my head says its not gonna happen
    I would like to root for Lin as well but my bankroll says otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gomburzago:

    Interesting plot. I want to root for Lin, but my head says its not gonna happen
    I would like to root for Lin as well but my bankroll says otherwise.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #21

    Papa you mean the heat that the knicks ran out of the building opening night?
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    Papa you mean the heat that the knicks ran out of the building opening night?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by CalifDreamin:

    Good luck , liked the read but had to stop when you said knicks are "championship material." They may beat a shitty Rockets team tonite though absolutely. GL, hope it cashes

    Well, right now, unfortunately, they are playing like they are. They can give the Heat, their primary contenders in the EC by far, a real series and with their newfound D under Woodson and possibly win it.

    I know the Knicks well and I know it's crazy to think the Knicks can make a run at the EC Championship, but this D is very effective and all the parts they brought in are playing to their maximum potential right now (Felton, Kidd etc.) Plus they have Shumpert coming back and gasp, Amare off the bench which, if he agrees to it will make their bench that much better. That's even more legitimate talent waiting in the wings (Shump is by far their best defender and Amare can give you near 20 a night). 

    The championship talk is just something you'll have to accept at this point instead of immediately dismissing as would have been justified in the past decade. 

    GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalifDreamin:

    Good luck , liked the read but had to stop when you said knicks are "championship material." They may beat a shitty Rockets team tonite though absolutely. GL, hope it cashes

    Well, right now, unfortunately, they are playing like they are. They can give the Heat, their primary contenders in the EC by far, a real series and with their newfound D under Woodson and possibly win it.

    I know the Knicks well and I know it's crazy to think the Knicks can make a run at the EC Championship, but this D is very effective and all the parts they brought in are playing to their maximum potential right now (Felton, Kidd etc.) Plus they have Shumpert coming back and gasp, Amare off the bench which, if he agrees to it will make their bench that much better. That's even more legitimate talent waiting in the wings (Shump is by far their best defender and Amare can give you near 20 a night). 

    The championship talk is just something you'll have to accept at this point instead of immediately dismissing as would have been justified in the past decade. 

    GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 12:58 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by fresh4lyph:

    Papa you mean the heat that the knicks ran out of the building opening night?

    Well he just dismisses that game because "Dwayne Wade and LBJ can't be beat dude!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh4lyph:

    Papa you mean the heat that the knicks ran out of the building opening night?

    Well he just dismisses that game because "Dwayne Wade and LBJ can't be beat dude!!!"
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Well, right now, unfortunately, they are playing like they are. They can give the Heat, their primary contenders in the EC by far, a real series and with their newfound D under Woodson and possibly win it.

    I know the Knicks well and I know it's crazy to think the Knicks can make a run at the EC Championship, but this D is very effective and all the parts they brought in are playing to their maximum potential right now (Felton, Kidd etc.) Plus they have Shumpert coming back and gasp, Amare off the bench which, if he agrees to it will make their bench that much better. That's even more legitimate talent waiting in the wings (Shump is by far their best defender and Amare can give you near 20 a night). 

    The championship talk is just something you'll have to accept at this point instead of immediately dismissing as would have been justified in the past decade. 

    GL

     

     

     

    Good luck tonite friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Well, right now, unfortunately, they are playing like they are. They can give the Heat, their primary contenders in the EC by far, a real series and with their newfound D under Woodson and possibly win it.

    I know the Knicks well and I know it's crazy to think the Knicks can make a run at the EC Championship, but this D is very effective and all the parts they brought in are playing to their maximum potential right now (Felton, Kidd etc.) Plus they have Shumpert coming back and gasp, Amare off the bench which, if he agrees to it will make their bench that much better. That's even more legitimate talent waiting in the wings (Shump is by far their best defender and Amare can give you near 20 a night). 

    The championship talk is just something you'll have to accept at this point instead of immediately dismissing as would have been justified in the past decade. 

    GL

     

     

     

    Good luck tonite friend

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 1:34 PM ET #25

    Always love to read your write-up!!! Lets go KNICKS!!
    “Nothing has meaning except for the meaning you give it.”
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    Always love to read your write-up!!! Lets go KNICKS!!
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