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    Hornets versus Golden State

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    JustTomas
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 7:03 AM ET #1

     So its the same like again , +3. 

     GSW was geeting everyones money since they covered againts Blazers i beleave. So probably now everyone are thinking 

     " So they keep it close or even win againts really good teams , nearly beat Lakers ( omg Lakers r soooo strong ) , they will probably own this Hornets team who has no CP3 ) ...

     Fuck it , Hornets are still a better team , i think public will be on GSW and i like Hornets a lot tonight.

     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
     So its the same like again , +3. 

     GSW was geeting everyones money since they covered againts Blazers i beleave. So probably now everyone are thinking 

     " So they keep it close or even win againts really good teams , nearly beat Lakers ( omg Lakers r soooo strong ) , they will probably own this Hornets team who has no CP3 ) ...

     Fuck it , Hornets are still a better team , i think public will be on GSW and i like Hornets a lot tonight.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 7:08 AM ET #2

    I feel sorry for your english teacher...........

    Hornets are sliding..........GL

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    I feel sorry for your english teacher...........

    Hornets are sliding..........GL

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 7:31 AM ET #3

      I love when americans make fun of someones language when they can only speak 1 language themselves...

     
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      I love when americans make fun of someones language when they can only speak 1 language themselves...

     
     
    Borat38
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 7:53 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruuuuce78:

    I feel sorry for your english teacher...........

    Hornets are sliding..........GL



    Says the guy who spells Bruce with four letter U's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruuuuce78:

    I feel sorry for your english teacher...........

    Hornets are sliding..........GL



    Says the guy who spells Bruce with four letter U's.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 9:40 AM ET #5

    In some people's minds only the Americans of the United States possess the internet. Thus anyone typing with improper grammar or syntax must be a dumb American.

    Its cool that people on other continents can speak more than 3 or 4 languages.

    Anyways.

    I like the Hornets for a different reason though. And i'm not sure why or how there is 67% on Golden State tonight. Strange.

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    In some people's minds only the Americans of the United States possess the internet. Thus anyone typing with improper grammar or syntax must be a dumb American.

    Its cool that people on other continents can speak more than 3 or 4 languages.

    Anyways.

    I like the Hornets for a different reason though. And i'm not sure why or how there is 67% on Golden State tonight. Strange.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 9:58 AM ET #6

    Curry & Ellis against a very suspect team in the Hornets right now as they have allowed 110ppg in their last 5 outings and come into a Warriors home court where the fans continue to poor in and enjoy the offensive show. I think the Wariors tag a win tonight but I havent pulled the trigger just yey but most likely will be...
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    Curry & Ellis against a very suspect team in the Hornets right now as they have allowed 110ppg in their last 5 outings and come into a Warriors home court where the fans continue to poor in and enjoy the offensive show. I think the Wariors tag a win tonight but I havent pulled the trigger just yey but most likely will be...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 10:03 AM ET #7

    Aah. I see. Its a revenge game for the Warriors. Think i'll pass this match-up and take the Hornets tomorrow night when they play in Denver. It'll be anothe double-digit spread which the Nuggets will not cover.
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    Aah. I see. Its a revenge game for the Warriors. Think i'll pass this match-up and take the Hornets tomorrow night when they play in Denver. It'll be anothe double-digit spread which the Nuggets will not cover.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 10:09 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruuuuce78:

    I feel sorry for your english teacher...........

    Hornets are sliding..........GL

     

     

     LMAO

    BOL JustThomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruuuuce78:

    I feel sorry for your english teacher...........

    Hornets are sliding..........GL

     

     

     LMAO

    BOL JustThomas

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 10:28 AM ET #9

    me gusto los hornetos tomas
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    me gusto los hornetos tomas
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 10:44 AM ET #10

    Why would GS be laying 3 points?  2 nights ago same scenario where the mighty Clippers were favs of 2.5 against the same NO squad who had beaten the LAC by an average of 17 points the 3 previous meeting in the same season... NO beat Clippers 108 - 100... I know it's hard to defeat one team in a season series, but NO had beaten the GS by an average of 7.5 points. 12/23/09 (NO 108 GS 102), 1/27/10 (GS 110 NO 123), 3/08/10 (NO 135 GS 131)... Granted they had covered 2 out 3 ATS... Beware!!! 

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    Why would GS be laying 3 points?  2 nights ago same scenario where the mighty Clippers were favs of 2.5 against the same NO squad who had beaten the LAC by an average of 17 points the 3 previous meeting in the same season... NO beat Clippers 108 - 100... I know it's hard to defeat one team in a season series, but NO had beaten the GS by an average of 7.5 points. 12/23/09 (NO 108 GS 102), 1/27/10 (GS 110 NO 123), 3/08/10 (NO 135 GS 131)... Granted they had covered 2 out 3 ATS... Beware!!! 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 12:33 PM ET #11

     I dont think Warriors can play their recent basketball for long , they still play no defense and rely on jump shoots too much and now everyone are picking them because they played 3 good games in a row ?

     2 reasons why i dont like Hornets - like HappyKane mentioned revenge factor and other reason is Nelsons win count , Warriors probably want to give thoose wins to him this season .

     Thanks for opinions 
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     I dont think Warriors can play their recent basketball for long , they still play no defense and rely on jump shoots too much and now everyone are picking them because they played 3 good games in a row ?

     2 reasons why i dont like Hornets - like HappyKane mentioned revenge factor and other reason is Nelsons win count , Warriors probably want to give thoose wins to him this season .

     Thanks for opinions 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 12:50 PM ET #12

    wow so its like same?

    so like, since cleveland wins and covers night last, that means public say "oh they won't cover tonight" and that means that public wrong because wrong always public

    so since e=mc squared i think that real question is how come you such capper shitty

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    wow so its like same?

    so like, since cleveland wins and covers night last, that means public say "oh they won't cover tonight" and that means that public wrong because wrong always public

    so since e=mc squared i think that real question is how come you such capper shitty

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 1:06 PM ET #13

     No , public is always right , thats how vegas gets their money , everyones happy ! That was a great chat with a smart capper 
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     No , public is always right , thats how vegas gets their money , everyones happy ! That was a great chat with a smart capper 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:03 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

     I dont think Warriors can play their recent basketball for long , they still play no defense and rely on jump shoots too much and now everyone are picking them because they played 3 good games in a row ?

     2 reasons why i dont like Hornets - like HappyKane mentioned revenge factor and other reason is Nelsons win count , Warriors probably want to give thoose wins to him this season .

     Thanks for opinions 

    I'd love to hear you analyze New Orlenas offense/defense, cause if Im not mistaken they are the exact same team as Golden St  BOTH rely on the jump shot, the difference is...Warriors own the BETTER shooters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

     I dont think Warriors can play their recent basketball for long , they still play no defense and rely on jump shoots too much and now everyone are picking them because they played 3 good games in a row ?

     2 reasons why i dont like Hornets - like HappyKane mentioned revenge factor and other reason is Nelsons win count , Warriors probably want to give thoose wins to him this season .

     Thanks for opinions 

    I'd love to hear you analyze New Orlenas offense/defense, cause if Im not mistaken they are the exact same team as Golden St  BOTH rely on the jump shot, the difference is...Warriors own the BETTER shooters.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:33 PM ET #15

    Really like the OVER now.
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    Really like the OVER now.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:34 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

    Aah. I see. Its a revenge game for the Warriors. Think i'll pass this match-up and take the Hornets tomorrow night when they play in Denver. It'll be anothe double-digit spread which the Nuggets will not cover.




    As long as they don't win big tonight haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:

    Aah. I see. Its a revenge game for the Warriors. Think i'll pass this match-up and take the Hornets tomorrow night when they play in Denver. It'll be anothe double-digit spread which the Nuggets will not cover.




    As long as they don't win big tonight haha.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:35 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

      I love when americans make fun of someones language when they can only speak 1 language themselves...

     

     

     

     

    110% Agreee !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

      I love when americans make fun of someones language when they can only speak 1 language themselves...

     

     

     

     

    110% Agreee !!!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:40 PM ET #18

     So since when Warriors become a good team ? 

     I think they are bit overrated right now .

     What do you want to hear ? Every team in NBA shoots many jump shots, in regular season especially . Its just Warriors do nothing else , even Ellis is a jump shooting machine now. 

     
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     So since when Warriors become a good team ? 

     I think they are bit overrated right now .

     What do you want to hear ? Every team in NBA shoots many jump shots, in regular season especially . Its just Warriors do nothing else , even Ellis is a jump shooting machine now. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

     So since when Warriors become a good team ? 

     I think they are bit overrated right now .

     What do you want to hear ? Every team in NBA shoots many jump shots, in regular season especially . Its just Warriors do nothing else , even Ellis is a jump shooting machine now. 

     

    You didn't answer the question at all.  Yes, every team shoots jump shots...some have better shooters.  So your telling me you'd take West & 2 Rookies (Collison & Thornton) over the likes of Maggette, Curry, Ellis & Morrow?

    I never said the Warriors were a good team, I said they've been playing better and own the better shooters.  You wont win trying to argue this with me....and saying the Hornets are the superior team shows your ignorance.  Especially considering the injuries that the Hornets have.

    Ellis just threw out something like 3-23 shooting and they STILL almost beat the powerful Lakers...who actually play defense.  Now they get to face New Orleans who plays very little.  Its not going to be as easy as you seem it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

     So since when Warriors become a good team ? 

     I think they are bit overrated right now .

     What do you want to hear ? Every team in NBA shoots many jump shots, in regular season especially . Its just Warriors do nothing else , even Ellis is a jump shooting machine now. 

     

    You didn't answer the question at all.  Yes, every team shoots jump shots...some have better shooters.  So your telling me you'd take West & 2 Rookies (Collison & Thornton) over the likes of Maggette, Curry, Ellis & Morrow?

    I never said the Warriors were a good team, I said they've been playing better and own the better shooters.  You wont win trying to argue this with me....and saying the Hornets are the superior team shows your ignorance.  Especially considering the injuries that the Hornets have.

    Ellis just threw out something like 3-23 shooting and they STILL almost beat the powerful Lakers...who actually play defense.  Now they get to face New Orleans who plays very little.  Its not going to be as easy as you seem it will be.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:49 PM ET #20

    Warriors are a good team to watch. They play tough and fun to watch night in and night out. Just love their offenses of power......don't think Hornets can't  hang with them tonight. Warriors will take this game tonight
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    Warriors are a good team to watch. They play tough and fun to watch night in and night out. Just love their offenses of power......don't think Hornets can't  hang with them tonight. Warriors will take this game tonight
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:50 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Mudhens726:

    Why would GS be laying 3 points?  2 nights ago same scenario where the mighty Clippers were favs of 2.5 against the same NO squad who had beaten the LAC by an average of 17 points the 3 previous meeting in the same season... NO beat Clippers 108 - 100... I know it's hard to defeat one team in a season series, but NO had beaten the GS by an average of 7.5 points. 12/23/09 (NO 108 GS 102), 1/27/10 (GS 110 NO 123), 3/08/10 (NO 135 GS 131)... Granted they had covered 2 out 3 ATS... Beware!!! 



    He's telling you something man.

    In this game when everyone pushes ONE WAY real hard, you need to throw some small chips at the other side.

    - HORNETS - They are off everyone's radar right now.

    Love how it was -2 and now -4.

    Don't play their Vegas mind games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudhens726:

    Why would GS be laying 3 points?  2 nights ago same scenario where the mighty Clippers were favs of 2.5 against the same NO squad who had beaten the LAC by an average of 17 points the 3 previous meeting in the same season... NO beat Clippers 108 - 100... I know it's hard to defeat one team in a season series, but NO had beaten the GS by an average of 7.5 points. 12/23/09 (NO 108 GS 102), 1/27/10 (GS 110 NO 123), 3/08/10 (NO 135 GS 131)... Granted they had covered 2 out 3 ATS... Beware!!! 



    He's telling you something man.

    In this game when everyone pushes ONE WAY real hard, you need to throw some small chips at the other side.

    - HORNETS - They are off everyone's radar right now.

    Love how it was -2 and now -4.

    Don't play their Vegas mind games.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 3:01 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by KBrick84:

    You didn't answer the question at all.  Yes, every team shoots jump shots...some have better shooters.  So your telling me you'd take West & 2 Rookies (Collison & Thornton) over the likes of Maggette, Curry, Ellis & Morrow?

    I never said the Warriors were a good team, I said they've been playing better and own the better shooters.  You wont win trying to argue this with me....and saying the Hornets are the superior team shows your ignorance.  Especially considering the injuries that the Hornets have.

    Ellis just threw out something like 3-23 shooting and they STILL almost beat the powerful Lakers...who actually play defense.  Now they get to face New Orleans who plays very little.  Its not going to be as easy as you seem it will be.



    Honestly if it was like a fantasy league or something.  I would take David West over any of those guys.  Hornets are a bit short handed but they can crash the boards and play a little bit better D than the Warriors can.  The Warriors would probably have to shoot upwards of 55% to win this game.  It really comes down to the post game which the Hornets do have with Okafor and West, and the nonexistent one with the Warriors. 

    Also the Hornets play pretty good perimeter D - which tends to cause disruption beyond the arc for the other team.

    Collison isn't the shooter Curry is - but he distributes the ball A LOT more.  I'm pretty excited to see these two matchup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBrick84:

    You didn't answer the question at all.  Yes, every team shoots jump shots...some have better shooters.  So your telling me you'd take West & 2 Rookies (Collison & Thornton) over the likes of Maggette, Curry, Ellis & Morrow?

    I never said the Warriors were a good team, I said they've been playing better and own the better shooters.  You wont win trying to argue this with me....and saying the Hornets are the superior team shows your ignorance.  Especially considering the injuries that the Hornets have.

    Ellis just threw out something like 3-23 shooting and they STILL almost beat the powerful Lakers...who actually play defense.  Now they get to face New Orleans who plays very little.  Its not going to be as easy as you seem it will be.



    Honestly if it was like a fantasy league or something.  I would take David West over any of those guys.  Hornets are a bit short handed but they can crash the boards and play a little bit better D than the Warriors can.  The Warriors would probably have to shoot upwards of 55% to win this game.  It really comes down to the post game which the Hornets do have with Okafor and West, and the nonexistent one with the Warriors. 

    Also the Hornets play pretty good perimeter D - which tends to cause disruption beyond the arc for the other team.

    Collison isn't the shooter Curry is - but he distributes the ball A LOT more.  I'm pretty excited to see these two matchup.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 3:04 PM ET #23

    KBricks84 , 

     If you ask me who can shoot ball better , i answer you - Warriors. But unlike Warriors Hornets can play different basketball , they can give ball to Okafor which isnt something , Thornton and Collison can drive very well . 

     Im saying Hornets is a better team , i had no problem going ML with them againts Clippers and i have no problem today , especially after seeing so many going with Golden State.

     I take more experienced , more all around team againts jump shooting team anyday . 

     And again im not saying Hornets are superior , in my opinion they are just better and good enaugh to show some skill againts WARRIORS.

     
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    KBricks84 , 

     If you ask me who can shoot ball better , i answer you - Warriors. But unlike Warriors Hornets can play different basketball , they can give ball to Okafor which isnt something , Thornton and Collison can drive very well . 

     Im saying Hornets is a better team , i had no problem going ML with them againts Clippers and i have no problem today , especially after seeing so many going with Golden State.

     I take more experienced , more all around team againts jump shooting team anyday . 

     And again im not saying Hornets are superior , in my opinion they are just better and good enaugh to show some skill againts WARRIORS.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 3:13 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:



    Honestly if it was like a fantasy league or something.  I would take David West over any of those guys.  Hornets are a bit short handed but they can crash the boards and play a little bit better D than the Warriors can.  The Warriors would probably have to shoot upwards of 55% to win this game.  It really comes down to the post game which the Hornets do have with Okafor and West, and the nonexistent one with the Warriors. 

    Also the Hornets play pretty good perimeter D - which tends to cause disruption beyond the arc for the other team.

    Collison isn't the shooter Curry is - but he distributes the ball A LOT more.  I'm pretty excited to see these two matchup.

    I hate to argue with 2 people in the same thread, but I'll give you some responses on your points.

    *A bit short handed?  No Paul, Posey or Peja.  Which takes their 2 best perimeter shooters out of the game.  Thats a bigger loss than you seem to think.

    *As for crashing the boards, yes they rebound well...but not to the extent where it will be like the Lakers/Warriors game the other night...56-25 advantage to Lakers and ONLY won by 3pts.  That's with 3 essential 7fters (Gasol, Bynum & Odum)  Sorry, but Okafur & West are both undersized and are not CENTERS.  West is a power forward who wants to shoot jumpers not post up...and Okafur gets his production from offensive rebounding.

    *Good perimeter defense...sure...but its not an over whelming statistic in favor of New Orleans.

    *As for Collison, the kid is racking up assist by the bunches because he plays 48mins per game.  They know they can run him a full game...cause he wont see HUGE playing time when Paul comes back.  So the assists in my mind are a bit padded.

    *On another note, the 4pt win a little over 1 week ago...required nearly 5 Hornets players reaching 20pts...while having a HUGE rebounding advantage.  Ellis didn't play in that game, and Peja & Posey combined for 20pts in that 4pts win.  That's a lot of production to make-up when the players that will need to do it, basically reached their max potential in that same game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:



    Honestly if it was like a fantasy league or something.  I would take David West over any of those guys.  Hornets are a bit short handed but they can crash the boards and play a little bit better D than the Warriors can.  The Warriors would probably have to shoot upwards of 55% to win this game.  It really comes down to the post game which the Hornets do have with Okafor and West, and the nonexistent one with the Warriors. 

    Also the Hornets play pretty good perimeter D - which tends to cause disruption beyond the arc for the other team.

    Collison isn't the shooter Curry is - but he distributes the ball A LOT more.  I'm pretty excited to see these two matchup.

    I hate to argue with 2 people in the same thread, but I'll give you some responses on your points.

    *A bit short handed?  No Paul, Posey or Peja.  Which takes their 2 best perimeter shooters out of the game.  Thats a bigger loss than you seem to think.

    *As for crashing the boards, yes they rebound well...but not to the extent where it will be like the Lakers/Warriors game the other night...56-25 advantage to Lakers and ONLY won by 3pts.  That's with 3 essential 7fters (Gasol, Bynum & Odum)  Sorry, but Okafur & West are both undersized and are not CENTERS.  West is a power forward who wants to shoot jumpers not post up...and Okafur gets his production from offensive rebounding.

    *Good perimeter defense...sure...but its not an over whelming statistic in favor of New Orleans.

    *As for Collison, the kid is racking up assist by the bunches because he plays 48mins per game.  They know they can run him a full game...cause he wont see HUGE playing time when Paul comes back.  So the assists in my mind are a bit padded.

    *On another note, the 4pt win a little over 1 week ago...required nearly 5 Hornets players reaching 20pts...while having a HUGE rebounding advantage.  Ellis didn't play in that game, and Peja & Posey combined for 20pts in that 4pts win.  That's a lot of production to make-up when the players that will need to do it, basically reached their max potential in that same game.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 3:17 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

    KBricks84 , 

     If you ask me who can shoot ball better , i answer you - Warriors. But unlike Warriors Hornets can play different basketball , they can give ball to Okafor which isnt something , Thornton and Collison can drive very well . 

     Im saying Hornets is a better team , i had no problem going ML with them againts Clippers and i have no problem today , especially after seeing so many going with Golden State.

     I take more experienced , more all around team againts jump shooting team anyday . 

     And again im not saying Hornets are superior , in my opinion they are just better and good enaugh to show some skill againts WARRIORS.

     

    God I could do this all day....lol.  First I was on the Hornets ML the other night as well, because it was a good situational play with Gordon coming of the injury...not because the Hornets were the better team.  Saying Thornton & Collison can drive is your first valid point, the only problem being that Ellis, Watson, Curry & Maggette are FAR SUPERIOR in that area of basketball.

    But what made me respond to this was this quote

    "I take more experienced , more all around team againts jump shooting team anyday"

    I don't think this deserves an educated response, but I'll let you research the "Experience" you speak of.  Cause the 2 guys you mention in this argument are BOTH ROOKIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTomas:

    KBricks84 , 

     If you ask me who can shoot ball better , i answer you - Warriors. But unlike Warriors Hornets can play different basketball , they can give ball to Okafor which isnt something , Thornton and Collison can drive very well . 

     Im saying Hornets is a better team , i had no problem going ML with them againts Clippers and i have no problem today , especially after seeing so many going with Golden State.

     I take more experienced , more all around team againts jump shooting team anyday . 

     And again im not saying Hornets are superior , in my opinion they are just better and good enaugh to show some skill againts WARRIORS.

     

    God I could do this all day....lol.  First I was on the Hornets ML the other night as well, because it was a good situational play with Gordon coming of the injury...not because the Hornets were the better team.  Saying Thornton & Collison can drive is your first valid point, the only problem being that Ellis, Watson, Curry & Maggette are FAR SUPERIOR in that area of basketball.

    But what made me respond to this was this quote

    "I take more experienced , more all around team againts jump shooting team anyday"

    I don't think this deserves an educated response, but I'll let you research the "Experience" you speak of.  Cause the 2 guys you mention in this argument are BOTH ROOKIES

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