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    How many This Game is Fixed posts do I have to endure?

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    Brocknroll
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 4:45 AM ET #1

     My only comment to this fixing bullshit is...just imagine how many NBA players have come and gone in the league.  The fortunate and talented retire, but a majority of players get forced out because of injury and performance.  I do not mean to cause any offense to the IQ level of the average NBA player, but how easy would it be for any disgruntled player to come out and expose a corrupt organization and any/all "Fixing" that occurs daily in the NBA?  It never happens for a reason.  These games are hard fought in the trenches and when the shit hits the fan, and momentum takes over, it seems mind-boggling for a lackluster team that is against the ropes to breakthrough, but it is a reality in any sport. 

     If you choose to partake in the sordid game of gambling meant for filthy little animals, then take your lumps and realize the human factor in these contests.  If you read between the lines you realize that long-term sports' wagering is a losing battle, but you are able to keep your head above water for longer periods of time then relish the wins as the satisfaction of the victories, depending on how sick you are, can make up for those unexplainable and painful losses. 

     I am a big fan of this board but the people that come in here Green, and with unrealistic expectations on how Sports Handicapping should go down, need to mature and digest the reality of this hobby.  Quick gains are good in concept, but this is a grind that takes smarts, patience, money management, and a fortitude to deflect unexplicable lapses in team play and bullshit calls that ultimately lead to losses.

     The strong survive and the weak bitch about calls that happened 3 days ago. 

     Let's cash in this second half of the NBA season and get to the MLB which the aficionados know is Money in the Bank when the season gets about 3 weeks-in. 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

     My only comment to this fixing bullshit is...just imagine how many NBA players have come and gone in the league.  The fortunate and talented retire, but a majority of players get forced out because of injury and performance.  I do not mean to cause any offense to the IQ level of the average NBA player, but how easy would it be for any disgruntled player to come out and expose a corrupt organization and any/all "Fixing" that occurs daily in the NBA?  It never happens for a reason.  These games are hard fought in the trenches and when the shit hits the fan, and momentum takes over, it seems mind-boggling for a lackluster team that is against the ropes to breakthrough, but it is a reality in any sport. 

     If you choose to partake in the sordid game of gambling meant for filthy little animals, then take your lumps and realize the human factor in these contests.  If you read between the lines you realize that long-term sports' wagering is a losing battle, but you are able to keep your head above water for longer periods of time then relish the wins as the satisfaction of the victories, depending on how sick you are, can make up for those unexplainable and painful losses. 

     I am a big fan of this board but the people that come in here Green, and with unrealistic expectations on how Sports Handicapping should go down, need to mature and digest the reality of this hobby.  Quick gains are good in concept, but this is a grind that takes smarts, patience, money management, and a fortitude to deflect unexplicable lapses in team play and bullshit calls that ultimately lead to losses.

     The strong survive and the weak bitch about calls that happened 3 days ago. 

     Let's cash in this second half of the NBA season and get to the MLB which the aficionados know is Money in the Bank when the season gets about 3 weeks-in. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 4:50 AM ET #2

    Amen brotha
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    Amen brotha
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 4:59 AM ET #3

    Well said...I don't know much about MLB betting but that game is fixed shit spread like wild fire.
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    Well said...I don't know much about MLB betting but that game is fixed shit spread like wild fire.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 5:12 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Brocknroll:

     My only comment to this fixing bullshit is...just imagine how many NBA players have come and gone in the league.  The fortunate and talented retire, but a majority of players get forced out because of injury and performance.  I do not mean to cause any offense to the IQ level of the average NBA player, but how easy would it be for any disgruntled player to come out and expose a corrupt organization and any/all "Fixing" that occurs daily in the NBA?  It never happens for a reason.  These games are hard fought in the trenches and when the shit hits the fan, and momentum takes over, it seems mind-boggling for a lackluster team that is against the ropes to breakthrough, but it is a reality in any sport. 

     If you choose to partake in the sordid game of gambling meant for filthy little animals, then take your lumps and realize the human factor in these contests.  If you read between the lines you realize that long-term sports' wagering is a losing battle, but you are able to keep your head above water for longer periods of time then relish the wins as the satisfaction of the victories, depending on how sick you are, can make up for those unexplainable and painful losses. 

     I am a big fan of this board but the people that come in here Green, and with unrealistic expectations on how Sports Handicapping should go down, need to mature and digest the reality of this hobby.  Quick gains are good in concept, but this is a grind that takes smarts, patience, money management, and a fortitude to deflect unexplicable lapses in team play and bullshit calls that ultimately lead to losses.

     The strong survive and the weak bitch about calls that happened 3 days ago. 

     Let's cash in this second half of the NBA season and get to the MLB which the aficionados know is Money in the Bank when the season gets about 3 weeks-in. 

    Brocknroll, do you know anything about Cricket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brocknroll:

     My only comment to this fixing bullshit is...just imagine how many NBA players have come and gone in the league.  The fortunate and talented retire, but a majority of players get forced out because of injury and performance.  I do not mean to cause any offense to the IQ level of the average NBA player, but how easy would it be for any disgruntled player to come out and expose a corrupt organization and any/all "Fixing" that occurs daily in the NBA?  It never happens for a reason.  These games are hard fought in the trenches and when the shit hits the fan, and momentum takes over, it seems mind-boggling for a lackluster team that is against the ropes to breakthrough, but it is a reality in any sport. 

     If you choose to partake in the sordid game of gambling meant for filthy little animals, then take your lumps and realize the human factor in these contests.  If you read between the lines you realize that long-term sports' wagering is a losing battle, but you are able to keep your head above water for longer periods of time then relish the wins as the satisfaction of the victories, depending on how sick you are, can make up for those unexplainable and painful losses. 

     I am a big fan of this board but the people that come in here Green, and with unrealistic expectations on how Sports Handicapping should go down, need to mature and digest the reality of this hobby.  Quick gains are good in concept, but this is a grind that takes smarts, patience, money management, and a fortitude to deflect unexplicable lapses in team play and bullshit calls that ultimately lead to losses.

     The strong survive and the weak bitch about calls that happened 3 days ago. 

     Let's cash in this second half of the NBA season and get to the MLB which the aficionados know is Money in the Bank when the season gets about 3 weeks-in. 

    Brocknroll, do you know anything about Cricket?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 8:07 AM ET #5

    The first paragraph hits the nail on the head. People who don't bet, but like watching sports will often use words of disgust or disappointment but "fixed" is usually not one of them.The perception is based on what horse you have in the race,if one at all.

    And remember that for every victim of a bad beat, another is the beneficiary of the exact same game.

    If more people bet $10 a play as opposed to their current net worth,they would have a lot more fun and a lot less stress doing this as a hobby.

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    The first paragraph hits the nail on the head. People who don't bet, but like watching sports will often use words of disgust or disappointment but "fixed" is usually not one of them.The perception is based on what horse you have in the race,if one at all.

    And remember that for every victim of a bad beat, another is the beneficiary of the exact same game.

    If more people bet $10 a play as opposed to their current net worth,they would have a lot more fun and a lot less stress doing this as a hobby.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 8:19 AM ET #6

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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 9:08 AM ET #7

    Hands down this is the ABSOLUTE BEST response to all that BS we read here every day.  I couldn't have said it better.  Getty3 adds a great point in the last sentence of his post as well.  The people you see here crying "FIX" are more than likely bettors with no concept of money management.  Don't get me wrong, I love the thrill of big money on the line for that juicy payout but it will eliminate your bankroll in the blink of an eye.  Anyways, as far as the Brock's post, the first paragraph really does nail it on the head.  If you've ever lost money on a game and threw something at the wall screaming "FIX", read this post and understand that this is the reality. 

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    Hands down this is the ABSOLUTE BEST response to all that BS we read here every day.  I couldn't have said it better.  Getty3 adds a great point in the last sentence of his post as well.  The people you see here crying "FIX" are more than likely bettors with no concept of money management.  Don't get me wrong, I love the thrill of big money on the line for that juicy payout but it will eliminate your bankroll in the blink of an eye.  Anyways, as far as the Brock's post, the first paragraph really does nail it on the head.  If you've ever lost money on a game and threw something at the wall screaming "FIX", read this post and understand that this is the reality. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 1:18 PM ET #8

     I am happy to see that there are others here who agree.  Unfortunately, I do not think it will be a long period of time(like tonight), before some JackAss is on the board is crying about "The Fix" being on a game that he just lost his 401k.
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     I am happy to see that there are others here who agree.  Unfortunately, I do not think it will be a long period of time(like tonight), before some JackAss is on the board is crying about "The Fix" being on a game that he just lost his 401k.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 1:22 PM ET #9

    Brock-

    We'll hear it tonight in regards to Chicago/Washington or Atlanta/Utah.  A lot of people are eating Chicago up at -2 and I wouldn't be surprised to see Washington take it straight up. 

    Once again, thanks for the excellent post.

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    Brock-

    We'll hear it tonight in regards to Chicago/Washington or Atlanta/Utah.  A lot of people are eating Chicago up at -2 and I wouldn't be surprised to see Washington take it straight up. 

    Once again, thanks for the excellent post.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:05 PM ET #10

    COOL

    GOOD LUCK

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    COOL

    GOOD LUCK

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:14 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by ridgeway:

    Brock-

    We'll hear it tonight in regards to Chicago/Washington or Atlanta/Utah.  A lot of people are eating Chicago up at -2 and I wouldn't be surprised to see Washington take it straight up. 

    Once again, thanks for the excellent post.

     There is a lot of talk about that Jazz/Hawks game today a la PizzaBoy.  I look forward to the accusation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgeway:

    Brock-

    We'll hear it tonight in regards to Chicago/Washington or Atlanta/Utah.  A lot of people are eating Chicago up at -2 and I wouldn't be surprised to see Washington take it straight up. 

    Once again, thanks for the excellent post.

     There is a lot of talk about that Jazz/Hawks game today a la PizzaBoy.  I look forward to the accusation.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:21 PM ET #12

    as many as the number of games that are fixed.  if they would at least not make it so obvious, then the volume of fixing posts would decline.
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    as many as the number of games that are fixed.  if they would at least not make it so obvious, then the volume of fixing posts would decline.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:24 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by redbook1:

    as many as the number of games that are fixed.  if they would at least not make it so obvious, then the volume of fixing posts would decline.

    Do you understand the reality of how difficult it would actually be to fix a game? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbook1:

    as many as the number of games that are fixed.  if they would at least not make it so obvious, then the volume of fixing posts would decline.

    Do you understand the reality of how difficult it would actually be to fix a game? 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:27 PM ET #14

    it is the easiest thing in the world.
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    it is the easiest thing in the world.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:27 PM ET #15

    I believe more than one player needs to be in on any fix..
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    I believe more than one player needs to be in on any fix..
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:28 PM ET #16

    Anywhere there is Big Money there will be corruption.
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    Anywhere there is Big Money there will be corruption.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:28 PM ET #17

    Did I just say fix?..Ooops, don't believe in that..LOL
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    Did I just say fix?..Ooops, don't believe in that..LOL
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:28 PM ET #18

    the players need not be involved at all.
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    the players need not be involved at all.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:34 PM ET #19

    I've never heard a NBA Player cry FIXXED.  The Talent level in the NBA and NFL is so huge, that any team can win when they are Hot on their game.

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    I've never heard a NBA Player cry FIXXED.  The Talent level in the NBA and NFL is so huge, that any team can win when they are Hot on their game.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:44 PM ET #20

    Got you Red..Maybe the players aren't fixing but the refs might be..

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    Got you Red..Maybe the players aren't fixing but the refs might be..

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:47 PM ET #21

    Amen...I bet and lose on basketball a lot but I have had the good fortune to have been talked to by people who've played. The fact is that on a team level there is a lot of failure in sports and athletes on a pro level measure differences in thousandths of seconds. One night the millisecond is on your side but other nights the other guy has it.

    You can't stop athletes 100% of the time without killing them. That's part of the definition of athleticism. Athletes find ways to succeed when most expect them to fail. They may also fail when most exct them to succeed.

    And TV??? most TV representation of events that involves angles may be up to 15% inaccurate. Why? because transistors need time switch on and off. High definition  TV is better but do not believe it is perfect. Even referees standing right their close to plays can be proven to have misinterpreted what they have seen with no malice involved.

    So please gamblers: don't waste valuable space, time and emotions whining about fixes...just stop betting basketball.

    NIL

     

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    Amen...I bet and lose on basketball a lot but I have had the good fortune to have been talked to by people who've played. The fact is that on a team level there is a lot of failure in sports and athletes on a pro level measure differences in thousandths of seconds. One night the millisecond is on your side but other nights the other guy has it.

    You can't stop athletes 100% of the time without killing them. That's part of the definition of athleticism. Athletes find ways to succeed when most expect them to fail. They may also fail when most exct them to succeed.

    And TV??? most TV representation of events that involves angles may be up to 15% inaccurate. Why? because transistors need time switch on and off. High definition  TV is better but do not believe it is perfect. Even referees standing right their close to plays can be proven to have misinterpreted what they have seen with no malice involved.

    So please gamblers: don't waste valuable space, time and emotions whining about fixes...just stop betting basketball.

    NIL

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:52 PM ET #22

    Nil, so Donaghy was a "rogue" ref?
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    Nil, so Donaghy was a "rogue" ref?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:53 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by GamzOver:

    Anywhere there is Big Money there will be corruption.

    Agreed...I don't whine about games being fixed everytime I lose a big bet, but if you don't think there's some fixing going on in sports at some level than you're being naive.

    Sports is a business and just like insider trading goes on in the stock market, there's corruption in sports.

    That being said, I'm sure 99.9% of the time we hear all this whining on Covers about games being fixed, it is not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamzOver:

    Anywhere there is Big Money there will be corruption.

    Agreed...I don't whine about games being fixed everytime I lose a big bet, but if you don't think there's some fixing going on in sports at some level than you're being naive.

    Sports is a business and just like insider trading goes on in the stock market, there's corruption in sports.

    That being said, I'm sure 99.9% of the time we hear all this whining on Covers about games being fixed, it is not true.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:54 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by NaMe_In_LiGhTs:

    Amen...I bet and lose on basketball a lot but I have had the good fortune to have been talked to by people who've played. The fact is that on a team level there is a lot of failure in sports and athletes on a pro level measure differences in thousandths of seconds. One night the millisecond is on your side but other nights the other guy has it.

    You can't stop athletes 100% of the time without killing them. That's part of the definition of athleticism. Athletes find ways to succeed when most expect them to fail. They may also fail when most exct them to succeed.

    And TV??? most TV representation of events that involves angles may be up to 15% inaccurate. Why? because transistors need time switch on and off. High definition  TV is better but do not believe it is perfect. Even referees standing right their close to plays can be proven to have misinterpreted what they have seen with no malice involved.

    So please gamblers: don't waste valuable space, time and emotions whining about fixes...just stop betting basketball.

    NIL



     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaMe_In_LiGhTs:

    Amen...I bet and lose on basketball a lot but I have had the good fortune to have been talked to by people who've played. The fact is that on a team level there is a lot of failure in sports and athletes on a pro level measure differences in thousandths of seconds. One night the millisecond is on your side but other nights the other guy has it.

    You can't stop athletes 100% of the time without killing them. That's part of the definition of athleticism. Athletes find ways to succeed when most expect them to fail. They may also fail when most exct them to succeed.

    And TV??? most TV representation of events that involves angles may be up to 15% inaccurate. Why? because transistors need time switch on and off. High definition  TV is better but do not believe it is perfect. Even referees standing right their close to plays can be proven to have misinterpreted what they have seen with no malice involved.

    So please gamblers: don't waste valuable space, time and emotions whining about fixes...just stop betting basketball.

    NIL



     

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2010 - 2:55 PM ET #25

    interesting you should only mention basketball.  why not stop betting ALL sports?  all sports have athletes and tv and transistors and referees.

    all those denying fixes--in ALL sports--were the same ones who denied steroid use despite all the evidence to the contrary (perhaps in part due to their homoerotic fascination with sosa and mcgwire?).

    their are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

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    interesting you should only mention basketball.  why not stop betting ALL sports?  all sports have athletes and tv and transistors and referees.

    all those denying fixes--in ALL sports--were the same ones who denied steroid use despite all the evidence to the contrary (perhaps in part due to their homoerotic fascination with sosa and mcgwire?).

    their are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

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