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    I am sick and tired of you MJ sweethearts!!!

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    Mancity
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:17 AM ET #1

    LeBron vs MJ one on one RIGHT NOW!!
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    LeBron vs MJ one on one RIGHT NOW!!
     
    Mancity
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:21 AM ET #2

    And don't get me wrong. I am huge MJ fan but to say Kobe or LeBron are not in same league as MJ is absurd! 
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    And don't get me wrong. I am huge MJ fan but to say Kobe or LeBron are not in same league as MJ is absurd! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:31 AM ET #3

    Go to bed..
    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    Go to bed..
     
    Mancity
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:33 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Go to bed..
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Go to bed..
    lol
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:36 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

    And don't get me wrong. I am huge MJ fan but to say Kobe or LeBron are not in same league as MJ is absurd!
    MJ will always be better then Lebron. Lebron might play longer but MJ is the GOAT. The guy literally floated in the air and dominated in a handcheck league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

    And don't get me wrong. I am huge MJ fan but to say Kobe or LeBron are not in same league as MJ is absurd!
    MJ will always be better then Lebron. Lebron might play longer but MJ is the GOAT. The guy literally floated in the air and dominated in a handcheck league

     
    Mancity
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:44 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    MJ will always be better then Lebron. Lebron might play longer but MJ is the GOAT. The guy literally floated in the air and dominated in a handcheck league

    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    MJ will always be better then Lebron. Lebron might play longer but MJ is the GOAT. The guy literally floated in the air and dominated in a handcheck league

    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:51 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    MJ will always be better then Lebron. Lebron might play longer but MJ is the GOAT. The guy literally floated in the air and dominated in a handcheck league
    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up!
    You do realize the Lebron Vs Michael debate is usually a 50% debate. Better then your posted betting record right? Float away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    MJ will always be better then Lebron. Lebron might play longer but MJ is the GOAT. The guy literally floated in the air and dominated in a handcheck league
    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up!
    You do realize the Lebron Vs Michael debate is usually a 50% debate. Better then your posted betting record right? Float away

     
    Mancity
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:57 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up! You do realize the Lebron Vs Michael debate is usually a 50% debate. Better then your posted betting record right? Float away

    Relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up! You do realize the Lebron Vs Michael debate is usually a 50% debate. Better then your posted betting record right? Float away

    Relax.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:00 AM ET #9

    Mancity...Get off of LBJ's nuts will u...
    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    Mancity...Get off of LBJ's nuts will u...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:01 AM ET #10

    Kobe isnt.. he is MJ lite - the closest thing to MJ that ever lived. BUT not MJ

    Lebron - pass.. Lebron is the man. BUT MJ never lost a finals... Lebron got to 8 and 18 straight finals whatever because he played in the East.. Will he even get to one more?

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    Kobe isnt.. he is MJ lite - the closest thing to MJ that ever lived. BUT not MJ

    Lebron - pass.. Lebron is the man. BUT MJ never lost a finals... Lebron got to 8 and 18 straight finals whatever because he played in the East.. Will he even get to one more?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:02 AM ET #11

    One on one? Is that the definition of the GOAT?

    Would love to see Tom Brady play Lawrence Taylor or Von Miller 1 on 1

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    One on one? Is that the definition of the GOAT?

    Would love to see Tom Brady play Lawrence Taylor or Von Miller 1 on 1

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:05 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Mancity...Get off of LBJ's nuts will u...
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Mancity...Get off of LBJ's nuts will u...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:09 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Mancity...Get off of LBJ's nuts will u...
    I love that guy, I am not gonna lie :)
    I remember when he first played in MBA, I said to myself he's going to be something special and sure enough...
    I hope to meet the guy someday! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Mancity...Get off of LBJ's nuts will u...
    I love that guy, I am not gonna lie :)
    I remember when he first played in MBA, I said to myself he's going to be something special and sure enough...
    I hope to meet the guy someday! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:13 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    Kobe isnt.. he is MJ lite - the closest thing to MJ that ever lived. BUT not MJ

    Lebron - pass.. Lebron is the man. BUT MJ never lost a finals... Lebron got to 8 and 18 straight finals whatever because he played in the East.. Will he even get to one more?

    If they get AD, he been going and winning a ring! Cause Boogie and the same old and GSW are not having their best season! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    Kobe isnt.. he is MJ lite - the closest thing to MJ that ever lived. BUT not MJ

    Lebron - pass.. Lebron is the man. BUT MJ never lost a finals... Lebron got to 8 and 18 straight finals whatever because he played in the East.. Will he even get to one more?

    If they get AD, he been going and winning a ring! Cause Boogie and the same old and GSW are not having their best season! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 2:52 AM ET #15

    if mj skipped college and didnt take a break with the body treatment programs that lebron gets nowdays. jordans numbers would be way out of lebrons reach. would probably have more than 6 rings also. so its not even a competition. lebron is a weenie. you think jordan or kobe would sit out for a month over a groin injury? hell no
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    if mj skipped college and didnt take a break with the body treatment programs that lebron gets nowdays. jordans numbers would be way out of lebrons reach. would probably have more than 6 rings also. so its not even a competition. lebron is a weenie. you think jordan or kobe would sit out for a month over a groin injury? hell no
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 3:13 AM ET #16

    They're both great scorer. Lebron is a waaay better passer/facilitator. Jordan is a waaay better defender. They play two different positions in two different eras. This debate is dumb as shyt. And to make a thread titled 'I'm tired of the MJ sweethearts' only to in the body essentially say, "....because i'm a Lebron Sweetheart." is completely asinine. This is a debate that can never be settled, therefore anyone actively engaging in it is insane. It'd be like debating which is better: Coke or Pepsi. (it's Coke)

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    They're both great scorer. Lebron is a waaay better passer/facilitator. Jordan is a waaay better defender. They play two different positions in two different eras. This debate is dumb as shyt. And to make a thread titled 'I'm tired of the MJ sweethearts' only to in the body essentially say, "....because i'm a Lebron Sweetheart." is completely asinine. This is a debate that can never be settled, therefore anyone actively engaging in it is insane. It'd be like debating which is better: Coke or Pepsi. (it's Coke)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 12:30 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    They're both great scorer. Lebron is a waaay better passer/facilitator. Jordan is a waaay better defender. They play two different positions in two different eras. This debate is dumb as shyt. And to make a thread titled 'I'm tired of the MJ sweethearts' only to in the body essentially say, "....because i'm a Lebron Sweetheart." is completely asinine. This is a debate that can never be settled, therefore anyone actively engaging in it is insane. It'd be like debating which is better: Coke or Pepsi. (it's Coke)

    Are you flipping kidding me?! It's Diet Coke

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    They're both great scorer. Lebron is a waaay better passer/facilitator. Jordan is a waaay better defender. They play two different positions in two different eras. This debate is dumb as shyt. And to make a thread titled 'I'm tired of the MJ sweethearts' only to in the body essentially say, "....because i'm a Lebron Sweetheart." is completely asinine. This is a debate that can never be settled, therefore anyone actively engaging in it is insane. It'd be like debating which is better: Coke or Pepsi. (it's Coke)

    Are you flipping kidding me?! It's Diet Coke

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 12:35 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    Are you flipping kidding me?! It's Diet Coke

    peace_5


    both you guys are wrong. sunkist is the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    Are you flipping kidding me?! It's Diet Coke

    peace_5


    both you guys are wrong. sunkist is the best.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 12:53 PM ET #19

    It's not close. Lebron played in a historically weak east and still had to join his biggest rival to learn how to win. His finals no-show versus Dallas was the worst choke by an MVP ever on that stage. Not only is Lebron not close to the greatest killer of all time (MJ), he shouldn't be considered a lock for the #2 spot. He's Peyton Manning.

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    It's not close. Lebron played in a historically weak east and still had to join his biggest rival to learn how to win. His finals no-show versus Dallas was the worst choke by an MVP ever on that stage. Not only is Lebron not close to the greatest killer of all time (MJ), he shouldn't be considered a lock for the #2 spot. He's Peyton Manning.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 12:53 PM ET #20

    Please I can’t stand ignorant people! LeBron isn’t in Jordan’s legue. The dude averaged 37 a game in a league where 87-83 was a normal score and defenses smothered you. And it’s not like he chucked 3s and gets box fouled every time like harden

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    Please I can’t stand ignorant people! LeBron isn’t in Jordan’s legue. The dude averaged 37 a game in a league where 87-83 was a normal score and defenses smothered you. And it’s not like he chucked 3s and gets box fouled every time like harden

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:05 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    They're both great scorer. Lebron is a waaay better passer/facilitator. Jordan is a waaay better defender. They play two different positions in two different eras. This debate is dumb as shyt. And to make a thread titled 'I'm tired of the MJ sweethearts' only to in the body essentially say, "....because i'm a Lebron Sweetheart." is completely asinine. This is a debate that can never be settled, therefore anyone actively engaging in it is insane. It'd be like debating which is better: Coke or Pepsi. (it's Coke)



    Man Lebron "waaayyyy better passer" who averages 1 more assist per game in the playoffs 

    Jordan was such a dominant scorer he didnt need to pass....why leave the ball in another players hands when you know they cant stop you. Go watch the Suns series when they would double team him all the time yet he averaged over 40 in that series....
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    They're both great scorer. Lebron is a waaay better passer/facilitator. Jordan is a waaay better defender. They play two different positions in two different eras. This debate is dumb as shyt. And to make a thread titled 'I'm tired of the MJ sweethearts' only to in the body essentially say, "....because i'm a Lebron Sweetheart." is completely asinine. This is a debate that can never be settled, therefore anyone actively engaging in it is insane. It'd be like debating which is better: Coke or Pepsi. (it's Coke)



    Man Lebron "waaayyyy better passer" who averages 1 more assist per game in the playoffs 

    Jordan was such a dominant scorer he didnt need to pass....why leave the ball in another players hands when you know they cant stop you. Go watch the Suns series when they would double team him all the time yet he averaged over 40 in that series....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 1:08 PM ET #22

    Jordan vs LeBron debate sleep2

     

    Just enjoy the fact that both players are great athletes.Stop the stick measuring contest.

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    Jordan vs LeBron debate sleep2

     

    Just enjoy the fact that both players are great athletes.Stop the stick measuring contest.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 3:09 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up! You do realize the Lebron Vs Michael debate is usually a 50% debate. Better then your posted betting record right ? Float away



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    Quote Originally Posted by Harden13:

    Another MJ sweetheart lmao floated in the air LITERALLY... i give up! You do realize the Lebron Vs Michael debate is usually a 50% debate. Better then your posted betting record right ? Float away



     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 3:42 PM ET #24

    This is one of my favorite topics to debate with younger friends when Im drunk. I may be biased, since I saw MJ´s glory days when I was a kid and he was and still is my idol. 

    There are some points you need to consider: 

    1) MJ played much less seasons than Lebron. So total stats are not a good point of comparison. 

    2. MJ quit for a full year. Quit meaning he completely stopped playing competitive basketball. Came back, took the rust off and kept on dominating. 

    *This is if you do not consider his 3 year break between Chicago and the Wizards. However his Wizards stats should not be considered. Some point that stage on the Wizards as an argument agains MJ. I see it on the contrary way. 3 years out and coming back with 38 and still posting great numbers. 

    3. MJ´s defense was the best for his position. In 12 seasons he played for the Bulls, he was 1st team All-Defensive for 9 seasons. In the NBA´s prime. Lebron has played much more seasons, yet he has made that team 5 times. 

    4. Stats per game: 

    Jordan: 30,1 ppg, 6,3 rpg, 5,4 apg, 2.5 steals/g, 0,9 bpg, 2,8 turnovers/game, 50.5 FG%, 33,2 p%, 83,8FT%

    Lebron: 27,2 ppg, 7,4 rpg, 7,2 apg, 1,6 spg, 0,8 bpg, 3,5 tov/g, 50,4FG%, 34,4 3p%, 73,8 FT%  

    Take into account MJ played when the NBA actually allowed to play defense. So his ppg, and FG% are significantly decreased. Nowadays MJ would average 35+ 

    MJ had a dynasty with the Bulls. Lebron has been under another dynasty´s reign (I think these Warriors beat those Bulls). 

    So, if the question is who is the greatest to play this team sport, there is no doubt its MJ. Absolutely no doubt. There are no objective facts or points of view you can bring to contradict that. 

    If your question is 1 on 1 then we don´t know, because Lebron is taller and bigger and in the post would be tough to handle. But in the same way, we don´t know if LBJ would beat someone like Hakeem Olajuwon 1 on 1. It´s a team sport, and that is the only thing we can compare.  

     

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    This is one of my favorite topics to debate with younger friends when Im drunk. I may be biased, since I saw MJ´s glory days when I was a kid and he was and still is my idol. 

    There are some points you need to consider: 

    1) MJ played much less seasons than Lebron. So total stats are not a good point of comparison. 

    2. MJ quit for a full year. Quit meaning he completely stopped playing competitive basketball. Came back, took the rust off and kept on dominating. 

    *This is if you do not consider his 3 year break between Chicago and the Wizards. However his Wizards stats should not be considered. Some point that stage on the Wizards as an argument agains MJ. I see it on the contrary way. 3 years out and coming back with 38 and still posting great numbers. 

    3. MJ´s defense was the best for his position. In 12 seasons he played for the Bulls, he was 1st team All-Defensive for 9 seasons. In the NBA´s prime. Lebron has played much more seasons, yet he has made that team 5 times. 

    4. Stats per game: 

    Jordan: 30,1 ppg, 6,3 rpg, 5,4 apg, 2.5 steals/g, 0,9 bpg, 2,8 turnovers/game, 50.5 FG%, 33,2 p%, 83,8FT%

    Lebron: 27,2 ppg, 7,4 rpg, 7,2 apg, 1,6 spg, 0,8 bpg, 3,5 tov/g, 50,4FG%, 34,4 3p%, 73,8 FT%  

    Take into account MJ played when the NBA actually allowed to play defense. So his ppg, and FG% are significantly decreased. Nowadays MJ would average 35+ 

    MJ had a dynasty with the Bulls. Lebron has been under another dynasty´s reign (I think these Warriors beat those Bulls). 

    So, if the question is who is the greatest to play this team sport, there is no doubt its MJ. Absolutely no doubt. There are no objective facts or points of view you can bring to contradict that. 

    If your question is 1 on 1 then we don´t know, because Lebron is taller and bigger and in the post would be tough to handle. But in the same way, we don´t know if LBJ would beat someone like Hakeem Olajuwon 1 on 1. It´s a team sport, and that is the only thing we can compare.  

     

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2019 - 4:04 PM ET #25

    Harden is spot on. MJ played in the most physical era ever where handchecking was legal and there was no Euro Step!

    MJ would get the better of Kobe and Lebron virtually every time they matched up. And MJ was a great passer, far better than either Kobe or Lebron. AND YES MJ FLEW
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    Harden is spot on. MJ played in the most physical era ever where handchecking was legal and there was no Euro Step!

    MJ would get the better of Kobe and Lebron virtually every time they matched up. And MJ was a great passer, far better than either Kobe or Lebron. AND YES MJ FLEW
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