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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:16 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Clippers. 

    The biggest losers on the planet. They would get swept by Raptors because they dont know what its like standing on the biggest scene. Not that Raptors know it but Crappers will never win a championship. A losing franchise. 

    From next year on theres 2 good teams in the West, thats OKC and GSW. Spurs are old they will never be relevant deep in playoffs again. Forget it. Then theres a sleeper in Dallas. And then two young gun teams in Minnesota/Portland that can make something happen within 5 years. Besides that the West is UTTER crap. Not just crap but UTTER FKING crap. A bunch of scrub/overrated/overpaid teams that consists of bum players because they know they cant deal with the eastern conference. 



    Sounds like you are talking about the Bulls and Knicks with overpaid crap teams...

    Toronto stinks...

    THe #2 seed in the East will be Boston next year...Lebron will add 2 more All-Stars and get smoked in the finals again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Clippers. 

    The biggest losers on the planet. They would get swept by Raptors because they dont know what its like standing on the biggest scene. Not that Raptors know it but Crappers will never win a championship. A losing franchise. 

    From next year on theres 2 good teams in the West, thats OKC and GSW. Spurs are old they will never be relevant deep in playoffs again. Forget it. Then theres a sleeper in Dallas. And then two young gun teams in Minnesota/Portland that can make something happen within 5 years. Besides that the West is UTTER crap. Not just crap but UTTER FKING crap. A bunch of scrub/overrated/overpaid teams that consists of bum players because they know they cant deal with the eastern conference. 



    Sounds like you are talking about the Bulls and Knicks with overpaid crap teams...

    Toronto stinks...

    THe #2 seed in the East will be Boston next year...Lebron will add 2 more All-Stars and get smoked in the finals again

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:18 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Underdogg:

    Asomugha... you're clearly a closet Cavs fan. This is a moment where defending their honor is not necessary fresh off a 33 point bashing. Just stop bro... I know you feel a certain way, but it sounds whack bc anyone you've defended (Love/James) is not performing when it counts most.

    no. that idiot is not a clev fan. he is a sucker of lebosta 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Underdogg:

    Asomugha... you're clearly a closet Cavs fan. This is a moment where defending their honor is not necessary fresh off a 33 point bashing. Just stop bro... I know you feel a certain way, but it sounds whack bc anyone you've defended (Love/James) is not performing when it counts most.

    no. that idiot is not a clev fan. he is a sucker of lebosta 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:18 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    You like stats, dont you? Tell me Clevelands record vs. Western Conf teams, will you? 


    What's their record vs. teams that made the playoffs?  That is a much more meaningful question... and in fact, your question is so meaningless it calls into question your mental stability!
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    You like stats, dont you? Tell me Clevelands record vs. Western Conf teams, will you? 


    What's their record vs. teams that made the playoffs?  That is a much more meaningful question... and in fact, your question is so meaningless it calls into question your mental stability!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:18 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Clippers. 

    The biggest losers on the planet. They would get swept by Raptors because they dont know what its like standing on the biggest scene. Not that Raptors know it but Crappers will never win a championship. A losing franchise. 

    From next year on theres 2 good teams in the West, thats OKC and GSW. Spurs are old they will never be relevant deep in playoffs again. Forget it. Then theres a sleeper in Dallas. And then two young gun teams in Minnesota/Portland that can make something happen within 5 years. Besides that the West is UTTER crap. Not just crap but UTTER FKING crap. A bunch of scrub/overrated/overpaid teams that consists of bum players because they know they cant deal with the eastern conference. 

    The Raptors barely beat a sh1tty Pacers team and the retirement home Miami Heats. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Clippers. 

    The biggest losers on the planet. They would get swept by Raptors because they dont know what its like standing on the biggest scene. Not that Raptors know it but Crappers will never win a championship. A losing franchise. 

    From next year on theres 2 good teams in the West, thats OKC and GSW. Spurs are old they will never be relevant deep in playoffs again. Forget it. Then theres a sleeper in Dallas. And then two young gun teams in Minnesota/Portland that can make something happen within 5 years. Besides that the West is UTTER crap. Not just crap but UTTER FKING crap. A bunch of scrub/overrated/overpaid teams that consists of bum players because they know they cant deal with the eastern conference. 

    The Raptors barely beat a sh1tty Pacers team and the retirement home Miami Heats. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:25 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Underdogg:

    Asomugha... you're clearly a closet Cavs fan. This is a moment where defending their honor is not necessary fresh off a 33 point bashing. Just stop bro... I know you feel a certain way, but it sounds whack bc anyone you've defended (Love/James) is not performing when it counts most.


    LBJ almost a triple-double and he didnt even play half the game. Not gonna defend him just saying its not his fault his team is garbage and GSW are just WAY better. They are on another planet hands down. And Love got a concussion. Why? Because hes a bad player. And idgaf if Cavs are succesful or not. Im not a fan of them. I really dont care. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Underdogg:

    Asomugha... you're clearly a closet Cavs fan. This is a moment where defending their honor is not necessary fresh off a 33 point bashing. Just stop bro... I know you feel a certain way, but it sounds whack bc anyone you've defended (Love/James) is not performing when it counts most.


    LBJ almost a triple-double and he didnt even play half the game. Not gonna defend him just saying its not his fault his team is garbage and GSW are just WAY better. They are on another planet hands down. And Love got a concussion. Why? Because hes a bad player. And idgaf if Cavs are succesful or not. Im not a fan of them. I really dont care. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:26 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



    What's their record vs. teams that made the playoffs?  That is a much more meaningful question... and in fact, your question is so meaningless it calls into question your mental stability!

    Whats their record against team that have won 2 or more championships within the last 27 years on sunny saturdays in Miami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



    What's their record vs. teams that made the playoffs?  That is a much more meaningful question... and in fact, your question is so meaningless it calls into question your mental stability!

    Whats their record against team that have won 2 or more championships within the last 27 years on sunny saturdays in Miami
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:28 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    LBJ almost a triple-double and he didnt even play half the game. Not gonna defend him just saying its not his fault his team is garbage and GSW are just WAY better. They are on another planet hands down. And Love got a concussion. Why? Because hes a bad player. And idgaf if Cavs are succesful or not. Im not a fan of them. I really dont care. 



    Here we go again, Lebron and his "terrible" team


    How many All-Stars do you want to give the guy?

    I mean I get it besides Pippen...Jordan needed Kerr, Hodges, Purdue, Cartright, Grant....but Lebron's team stinks 
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    LBJ almost a triple-double and he didnt even play half the game. Not gonna defend him just saying its not his fault his team is garbage and GSW are just WAY better. They are on another planet hands down. And Love got a concussion. Why? Because hes a bad player. And idgaf if Cavs are succesful or not. Im not a fan of them. I really dont care. 



    Here we go again, Lebron and his "terrible" team


    How many All-Stars do you want to give the guy?

    I mean I get it besides Pippen...Jordan needed Kerr, Hodges, Purdue, Cartright, Grant....but Lebron's team stinks 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:30 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:


    The Raptors barely beat a sh1tty Pacers team and the retirement home Miami Heats. 

    Cool.

    But they would certainly beat the lowly Crappers, the worst franchise in the NBA relatively respectively when you compare it with the material they have available. CP3 is the most overrated garbage PG in the game. And Blake Griffin is the most overrated center in the history of the game (ok hes improved over the last 2 years but besides that hes just a flashy overrated highlight clown that should stick to brawling with bieber or johnny depp at night clubs and bang ugly washed up blondes that Kobe already been raping/sleeping/whatever with.) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:


    The Raptors barely beat a sh1tty Pacers team and the retirement home Miami Heats. 

    Cool.

    But they would certainly beat the lowly Crappers, the worst franchise in the NBA relatively respectively when you compare it with the material they have available. CP3 is the most overrated garbage PG in the game. And Blake Griffin is the most overrated center in the history of the game (ok hes improved over the last 2 years but besides that hes just a flashy overrated highlight clown that should stick to brawling with bieber or johnny depp at night clubs and bang ugly washed up blondes that Kobe already been raping/sleeping/whatever with.) 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:31 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by alvaro_duarte:


    no. that idiot is not a clev fan. he is a sucker of lebosta 

    Again; what is a lebosta. explain it to me so i can respond to it.
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    no. that idiot is not a clev fan. he is a sucker of lebosta 

    Again; what is a lebosta. explain it to me so i can respond to it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:32 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:




    Sounds like you are talking about the Bulls and Knicks with overpaid crap teams...

    Toronto stinks...

    THe #2 seed in the East will be Boston next year...Lebron will add 2 more All-Stars and get smoked in the finals again


    Boston wont even make the playoffs next year. I guarantee you that. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:




    Sounds like you are talking about the Bulls and Knicks with overpaid crap teams...

    Toronto stinks...

    THe #2 seed in the East will be Boston next year...Lebron will add 2 more All-Stars and get smoked in the finals again


    Boston wont even make the playoffs next year. I guarantee you that. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:37 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:




    Here we go again, Lebron and his "terrible" team


    How many All-Stars do you want to give the guy?

    I mean I get it besides Pippen...Jordan needed Kerr, Hodges, Purdue, Cartright, Grant....but Lebron's team stinks 


    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:




    Here we go again, Lebron and his "terrible" team


    How many All-Stars do you want to give the guy?

    I mean I get it besides Pippen...Jordan needed Kerr, Hodges, Purdue, Cartright, Grant....but Lebron's team stinks 


    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.

    this guy has to be the biggest idiot on covers....

    and i've been around the block for a while
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    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.

    this guy has to be the biggest idiot on covers....

    and i've been around the block for a while
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.


    The stupidity is strong with this one 
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    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.


    The stupidity is strong with this one 
     
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    You like stats, dont you? Tell me Clevelands record vs. Western Conf teams, will you? 

    Cavs record in Finals versus Western Conference is about to be 0-3.   Is that good?  Regular season records mean absolutely nothing.  
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    You like stats, dont you? Tell me Clevelands record vs. Western Conf teams, will you? 

    Cavs record in Finals versus Western Conference is about to be 0-3.   Is that good?  Regular season records mean absolutely nothing.  
     
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    LBJ almost a triple-double and he didnt even play half the game. Not gonna defend him just saying its not his fault his team is garbage and GSW are just WAY better. They are on another planet hands down. And Love got a concussion. Why? Because hes a bad player. And idgaf if Cavs are succesful or not. Im not a fan of them. I really dont care. 

    There are 48 minutes in an NBA Game.  Lebron played 34 minutes, which means he played much more than half the game.  Meanwhile Steph only played 25 minutes (about half), and they still won by 30+
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    LBJ almost a triple-double and he didnt even play half the game. Not gonna defend him just saying its not his fault his team is garbage and GSW are just WAY better. They are on another planet hands down. And Love got a concussion. Why? Because hes a bad player. And idgaf if Cavs are succesful or not. Im not a fan of them. I really dont care. 

    There are 48 minutes in an NBA Game.  Lebron played 34 minutes, which means he played much more than half the game.  Meanwhile Steph only played 25 minutes (about half), and they still won by 30+
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.


    ...lordy lordy lordy....there arent sufficient words in the english language to describe your stupidity.....i think it wud be best for folks to stop responding to your posts as you are clearly just baiting people,trying to get a rise or response out of them...no way in hell are you tryna engage in serious discussion with this tripe^^^^.
    you are not real..."asomugha" is a prank/joke account.


    zach lavine,jose calderone,deangelo russell,patrick beverly,ish smith,rodney hood,bojan bogdonavic etc..etc...can all start in this league but the best player that ever lived,michael jordan,can not??.......

    and then after waxing lyrical over how superior modern athletes are in every way you go and include abdul jabbar,chamberlain and magic(all from era's decades in the past) in your top 5...




    theres no way this is a legitimate,serious account......no



    fu.kking




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    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.


    ...lordy lordy lordy....there arent sufficient words in the english language to describe your stupidity.....i think it wud be best for folks to stop responding to your posts as you are clearly just baiting people,trying to get a rise or response out of them...no way in hell are you tryna engage in serious discussion with this tripe^^^^.
    you are not real..."asomugha" is a prank/joke account.


    zach lavine,jose calderone,deangelo russell,patrick beverly,ish smith,rodney hood,bojan bogdonavic etc..etc...can all start in this league but the best player that ever lived,michael jordan,can not??.......

    and then after waxing lyrical over how superior modern athletes are in every way you go and include abdul jabbar,chamberlain and magic(all from era's decades in the past) in your top 5...




    theres no way this is a legitimate,serious account......no



    fu.kking




    way.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Clippers. 

    The biggest losers on the planet. They would get swept by Raptors because they dont know what its like standing on the biggest scene. Not that Raptors know it but Crappers will never win a championship. A losing franchise. 

    From next year on theres 2 good teams in the West, thats OKC and GSW. Spurs are old they will never be relevant deep in playoffs again. Forget it. Then theres a sleeper in Dallas. And then two young gun teams in Minnesota/Portland that can make something happen within 5 years. Besides that the West is UTTER crap. Not just crap but UTTER FKING crap. A bunch of scrub/overrated/overpaid teams that consists of bum players because they know they cant deal with the eastern conference. 

    Raptors suck the clippers lost two of their best players and reddick was banged up thats why they fell off, but portland was a good team. Raptors are garbage they lost by 30 how many times to the cavs. They are fu.cking sad. All the teams in west other than memphis are better thanthe east. The east was horrendous this year. For you to sit here and say otherwise means u didnt watch or bet this year. 
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    Clippers. 

    The biggest losers on the planet. They would get swept by Raptors because they dont know what its like standing on the biggest scene. Not that Raptors know it but Crappers will never win a championship. A losing franchise. 

    From next year on theres 2 good teams in the West, thats OKC and GSW. Spurs are old they will never be relevant deep in playoffs again. Forget it. Then theres a sleeper in Dallas. And then two young gun teams in Minnesota/Portland that can make something happen within 5 years. Besides that the West is UTTER crap. Not just crap but UTTER FKING crap. A bunch of scrub/overrated/overpaid teams that consists of bum players because they know they cant deal with the eastern conference. 

    Raptors suck the clippers lost two of their best players and reddick was banged up thats why they fell off, but portland was a good team. Raptors are garbage they lost by 30 how many times to the cavs. They are fu.cking sad. All the teams in west other than memphis are better thanthe east. The east was horrendous this year. For you to sit here and say otherwise means u didnt watch or bet this year. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Underdogg:

    Asomugha... you're clearly a closet Cavs fan. This is a moment where defending their honor is not necessary fresh off a 33 point bashing. Just stop bro... I know you feel a certain way, but it sounds whack bc anyone you've defended (Love/James) is not performing when it counts most.

    ABSOLUTELY

    REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT COUNT. JAMES WILL BE 2-6 IN THE FINAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR RAY ALLEN'S MIRACLE THREE LEBRON WOULD BE 1-7 IN THE FINALS. I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS HE HAS A BETTER RECORD THAN JERRY WEST WHOSE FINALS RECORD IS 1-7. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Underdogg:

    Asomugha... you're clearly a closet Cavs fan. This is a moment where defending their honor is not necessary fresh off a 33 point bashing. Just stop bro... I know you feel a certain way, but it sounds whack bc anyone you've defended (Love/James) is not performing when it counts most.

    ABSOLUTELY

    REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT COUNT. JAMES WILL BE 2-6 IN THE FINAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR RAY ALLEN'S MIRACLE THREE LEBRON WOULD BE 1-7 IN THE FINALS. I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS HE HAS A BETTER RECORD THAN JERRY WEST WHOSE FINALS RECORD IS 1-7. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:


    Cavs record in Finals versus Western Conference is about to be 0-3.   Is that good?  Regular season records mean absolutely nothing.  


    0-3? 
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    Cavs record in Finals versus Western Conference is about to be 0-3.   Is that good?  Regular season records mean absolutely nothing.  


    0-3? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjm1012:

    ABSOLUTELY

    REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT COUNT. JAMES WILL BE 2-6 IN THE FINAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR RAY ALLEN'S MIRACLE THREE LEBRON WOULD BE 1-7 IN THE FINALS. I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS HE HAS A BETTER RECORD THAN JERRY WEST WHOSE FINALS RECORD IS 1-7. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG



    If Kobe played basketball by this time of the year in LeBrons era LeBron would be 8-0 in the finals. 
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    ABSOLUTELY

    REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT COUNT. JAMES WILL BE 2-6 IN THE FINAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR RAY ALLEN'S MIRACLE THREE LEBRON WOULD BE 1-7 IN THE FINALS. I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS HE HAS A BETTER RECORD THAN JERRY WEST WHOSE FINALS RECORD IS 1-7. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG



    If Kobe played basketball by this time of the year in LeBrons era LeBron would be 8-0 in the finals. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2016 - 6:20 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by binka34:


    this guy has to be the biggest idiot on covers....

    and i've been around the block for a while


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    this guy has to be the biggest idiot on covers....

    and i've been around the block for a while


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjm1012:

    ABSOLUTELY

    REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT COUNT. JAMES WILL BE 2-6 IN THE FINAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR RAY ALLEN'S MIRACLE THREE LEBRON WOULD BE 1-7 IN THE FINALS. I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS HE HAS A BETTER RECORD THAN JERRY WEST WHOSE FINALS RECORD IS 1-7. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG



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    ABSOLUTELY

    REGULAR SEASON DOES NOT COUNT. JAMES WILL BE 2-6 IN THE FINAL AND IF IT WASN'T FOR RAY ALLEN'S MIRACLE THREE LEBRON WOULD BE 1-7 IN THE FINALS. I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS HE HAS A BETTER RECORD THAN JERRY WEST WHOSE FINALS RECORD IS 1-7. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG



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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.


    Where to begin....

    You claim Kobe retired because he cant play, but Duncan is still a big part of the game/team.....Didnt Duncan go 3-4 games THIS playoffs with ZERO points??  Multiple playoff games with ZERO points???  Everybody gets old...

    As for Jordan retiring because he didnt want to play Lebron, nor could he play in todays game...

    If Jordan played in todays era, he would score 50+ points a game with how they call fouls...

    There are maybe 10 players in todays game, that would have been able to play in Jordans era...all the crybabies, days off, needing rest...everytime a player misses a shot he cries to every ref for about 2 mins..

    Todays game is a JOKE....more athletic players, yes obviously...but better players??  Not even close...in fact probably the worst basketball in the last 40+ years...teams play "hack-a-shaq" to win???  SOunds like great basketball players 


    You play in the "best" Sweddish soccer league huh??  Which team?  I love betting soccer

    I wonder if your coach and owner know what a moron they have on their team 
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    Michael Flopdon retired from basketball because he was scared of what the KING would do to him if he stayed in the league, so instead of playing basketball he spends his time smoking kush all day spewing out cocky comments like he did in his HOF speech (which was the most arrogant garbage ive heard in my entire long life). 

    You fucktards think you can compare the two players, but you cant. Michael Jordan in this league would get absolutely KILLED, not because of rules, but because of the athletes. Do you guys know who is the best 100m runner of all time? Usain Bolt is. Because of genetics and athletecism changes so we can push things further. This goes for basketball as well, ofcourse its different when shootings involved, but physically athletically people in 2015 are WAY ahead of people in 2000 ON EVERY LEVEL. The game is way too tough compared to what it was back then, ofc you cant see it because you see it relatively. Im a professional soccer player and i play in the best Swedish soccer league, when i play i look like one of the best players in the world BECAUSE IM RELATIVELY BETTER THAN THOSE I PLAY AGAINST. But if i played in a european club like Barcelona id look like a fool next to Messi and his opponents. And same thing goes for Michael Flopdon, he looks soooo good because his opponents are relatively worse, i swear to god, if u had swapped out Michael Jordan with Stephen Curry, Curry would be MUCH better and have MUCH more rings than Michael Jordan. Its at that point where Michael Jordan would have a rough time even making it into a starting lineup on a team today, it really is, it just doesnt look like that when you see how dominant he was in his era, but it changes alot. Its like when people say the 34-0 Kansas team would be able to beat a NBA team, people actually believe it because of how good they are RELATIVELY, but in reality they are nowhere near the level of this. 

    Why do yall think Kobe barely played in his final years? Not because "hes getting old" or some garbage, because Duncan is getting old too and hes still a BIG factor in the league, but Kobe doesnt play because hes simply not good enough on this physical level anymore. He doesnt want to be competitive because he knows at this point theres no way he would be able to beat LeBron in finals if his team ever made it that far (which they wont because Kobe cant carry Lakers anywhere without superstars around him, he barely made the playoffs with 5 allstar players lmfao). So instead of switching teams to have a shot of winning a chip, he sticks to Lakers. Why you think he does this? Do you think its because hes loyal? LMFAO. What is loyalty worth if it doesnt get you CHIPS. Nope, its because theres no expectations to him in Lakers, its because he gets MAX DEAL, its because he sells jerseys and its because Lakers are so bad and Kobe is such a bad leader so hes allowed to take all the shots he wants in the world even if he bricks 80% of them because they will lose anyways so he uses it as a way of adding more to his statsheet that he cares so much about. Kobe doesnt give a F about winning ballgames, he gave up on that a few years ago when he realized LeBron had become too good (by making it to the finals 4 years in a row) and he realized West was too tough on him. So this tough league knocked Jordan out (he quit before the league got too tough for the weed smoker) and it knocked Kobe out (he doesnt give a crap, hes enjoying his max deal and hes probably out there raping another girl so hes HAPPY) and u really think any of these 2 overpaid overrated baldheaded clownheads can be considered top 10 basketball players all time? Lmfao, youre so stupid.

    Heres the real and official top 5 all time basketball players if illuminati hadnt messed ur brain up:

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. LeBron James 
    3. Magic Johnson 
    4. Wilt Chamberlain 
    5. Tim Duncan 

    Get back to reality Kobe+MJ fanstraights.


    Where to begin....

    You claim Kobe retired because he cant play, but Duncan is still a big part of the game/team.....Didnt Duncan go 3-4 games THIS playoffs with ZERO points??  Multiple playoff games with ZERO points???  Everybody gets old...

    As for Jordan retiring because he didnt want to play Lebron, nor could he play in todays game...

    If Jordan played in todays era, he would score 50+ points a game with how they call fouls...

    There are maybe 10 players in todays game, that would have been able to play in Jordans era...all the crybabies, days off, needing rest...everytime a player misses a shot he cries to every ref for about 2 mins..

    Todays game is a JOKE....more athletic players, yes obviously...but better players??  Not even close...in fact probably the worst basketball in the last 40+ years...teams play "hack-a-shaq" to win???  SOunds like great basketball players 


    You play in the "best" Sweddish soccer league huh??  Which team?  I love betting soccer

    I wonder if your coach and owner know what a moron they have on their team 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2016 - 9:10 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    If Kobe played basketball by this time of the year in LeBrons era LeBron would be 8-0 in the finals. 




    In this series...Lebron is the biggest person on the court 70% of the time when both teams go small...

    Why isnt he completely dominating the series if he is so good??  Jordan was never close to the biggest person on the court and dominated game after game??  

    James is supposedly the "best, fastest, strongest etc...."  Yet, he is getting schooled out there??? 
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    If Kobe played basketball by this time of the year in LeBrons era LeBron would be 8-0 in the finals. 




    In this series...Lebron is the biggest person on the court 70% of the time when both teams go small...

    Why isnt he completely dominating the series if he is so good??  Jordan was never close to the biggest person on the court and dominated game after game??  

    James is supposedly the "best, fastest, strongest etc...."  Yet, he is getting schooled out there??? 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    And Blake Griffin is the most overrated center in the history of the game 

    Blake Griffin has never played center at any time in his NBA career...


    I am convinced you don't even watch basketball... you just make horses-@ss ret@rded comments to get a reaction... I actually don't believe it is as possible to be as stupid as you pretend to be!
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    And Blake Griffin is the most overrated center in the history of the game 

    Blake Griffin has never played center at any time in his NBA career...


    I am convinced you don't even watch basketball... you just make horses-@ss ret@rded comments to get a reaction... I actually don't believe it is as possible to be as stupid as you pretend to be!
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