I workedfor 2 nba teams from 88-93 while in college. My buddy played in Orlando with Shaq. I love Shaq, Dream, Bill Russell, KAJ, but no one has the combo of scoring, rebounding, passing and stepping out to 24 feet and drilling it like Joker. He's foreign, white but he's an all time great.
Amen
Nothing that guy can't do !
As great of a player as Kareem was in his time - that hook shot was deadly no way he can compare to Jokic imo . Kareem had a pretty good surrounding cast of great players . Who does Joker got -Murray that's it.
His skills brings out the best for his teammates.
Claim to Fame - beating Bill Rodgers in a race.
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Quote Originally Posted by umgmu:
I workedfor 2 nba teams from 88-93 while in college. My buddy played in Orlando with Shaq. I love Shaq, Dream, Bill Russell, KAJ, but no one has the combo of scoring, rebounding, passing and stepping out to 24 feet and drilling it like Joker. He's foreign, white but he's an all time great.
Amen
Nothing that guy can't do !
As great of a player as Kareem was in his time - that hook shot was deadly no way he can compare to Jokic imo . Kareem had a pretty good surrounding cast of great players . Who does Joker got -Murray that's it.
Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman3: absolutely my guys Shaq, Wilt, Bill, and Hakeem wouldn’t agree. Abdul-Jabbar not even mentioned? He might be the best big man ever.
He is best player ever.
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Quote Originally Posted by chicubs09:
Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman3: absolutely my guys Shaq, Wilt, Bill, and Hakeem wouldn’t agree. Abdul-Jabbar not even mentioned? He might be the best big man ever.
It's a much softer league today. Big men like Jokic can use their girth and strength to do as they wish. In Hakeem's day, Jokic would have been exhausted by the end of the third quarter.
No doubt he's one of the best big men ever but I'm willing to bet all I have Bill Russell would have made him work for absolutely everything. I mean Anthony Davis is a mental midget. Come on now
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It's a much softer league today. Big men like Jokic can use their girth and strength to do as they wish. In Hakeem's day, Jokic would have been exhausted by the end of the third quarter.
No doubt he's one of the best big men ever but I'm willing to bet all I have Bill Russell would have made him work for absolutely everything. I mean Anthony Davis is a mental midget. Come on now
Russell was maybe the greatest defensive big guy ever. It's difficult to compare different era's but defense was far more important then than it is now.
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Russell was maybe the greatest defensive big guy ever. It's difficult to compare different era's but defense was far more important then than it is now.
Interesting stat on joker, his career FG% on 2 pt shooting IS 60.9%. Did you know Kareem with his unstoppable sky-hook never even produce 1 season of 60.9% or better, not once.
His best was 60.4% and he did hit 60% one other time, all Kareem's best shooting years came only when Magic joined the team. He never did it with the Big O, without any doubt he shot those higher %'s because of great passing by Magic that got him easy baskets, not his sky-hook.
Joker was the better rebounder, better passer, better 2 pt shooter, better 3 pt shooter, Kareem never attempted a 3. Better FT shooter by far. Joker has a higher Player Efficiency Rating, 4 seasons over 31, Kareem has 0 over 30. Kareem has 3 over 29, Joker has 4 over 31.
Joker has a much higher usage then Karrem, his career ave is 27%, Kareem has 1 season at 27%. Joker is much more involved on offense then Kareem ever was, If the Joker has better teammates why does he get more involved in the offense for Nuggets to be successful ? One thing is Joker is a far better rounded player that can do much more then Kareem could do.
Today's era is definitely different, I don't know enough to judge the different era's but it is surprising to me anyways as to how good Jokic has become. He is the best player in the league today AND playing on an historical all-time level.
Joker has more years over 31 PER then LBJ and Wilt, and tied with the one and only MJ at the top with 4 years over 31. Crazy. Next year he can be at the top all-alone if he can do it again. But it is not that easy to get over 31, not easy at all. I think he falls some next year but only time will tell.
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Interesting stat on joker, his career FG% on 2 pt shooting IS 60.9%. Did you know Kareem with his unstoppable sky-hook never even produce 1 season of 60.9% or better, not once.
His best was 60.4% and he did hit 60% one other time, all Kareem's best shooting years came only when Magic joined the team. He never did it with the Big O, without any doubt he shot those higher %'s because of great passing by Magic that got him easy baskets, not his sky-hook.
Joker was the better rebounder, better passer, better 2 pt shooter, better 3 pt shooter, Kareem never attempted a 3. Better FT shooter by far. Joker has a higher Player Efficiency Rating, 4 seasons over 31, Kareem has 0 over 30. Kareem has 3 over 29, Joker has 4 over 31.
Joker has a much higher usage then Karrem, his career ave is 27%, Kareem has 1 season at 27%. Joker is much more involved on offense then Kareem ever was, If the Joker has better teammates why does he get more involved in the offense for Nuggets to be successful ? One thing is Joker is a far better rounded player that can do much more then Kareem could do.
Today's era is definitely different, I don't know enough to judge the different era's but it is surprising to me anyways as to how good Jokic has become. He is the best player in the league today AND playing on an historical all-time level.
Joker has more years over 31 PER then LBJ and Wilt, and tied with the one and only MJ at the top with 4 years over 31. Crazy. Next year he can be at the top all-alone if he can do it again. But it is not that easy to get over 31, not easy at all. I think he falls some next year but only time will tell.
I workedfor 2 nba teams from 88-93 while in college. My buddy played in Orlando with Shaq. I love Shaq, Dream, Bill Russell, KAJ, but no one has the combo of scoring, rebounding, passing and stepping out to 24 feet and drilling it like Joker. He's foreign, white but he's an all time great.
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Quote Originally Posted by umgmu:
I workedfor 2 nba teams from 88-93 while in college. My buddy played in Orlando with Shaq. I love Shaq, Dream, Bill Russell, KAJ, but no one has the combo of scoring, rebounding, passing and stepping out to 24 feet and drilling it like Joker. He's foreign, white but he's an all time great.
Interesting stat on joker, his career FG% on 2 pt shooting IS 60.9%. Did you know Kareem with his unstoppable sky-hook never even produce 1 season of 60.9% or better, not once. His best was 60.4% and he did hit 60% one other time, all Kareem's best shooting years came only when Magic joined the team. He never did it with the Big O, without any doubt he shot those higher %'s because of great passing by Magic that got him easy baskets, not his sky-hook. Joker was the better rebounder, better passer, better 2 pt shooter, better 3 pt shooter, Kareem never attempted a 3. Better FT shooter by far. Joker has a higher Player Efficiency Rating, 4 seasons over 31, Kareem has 0 over 30. Kareem has 3 over 29, Joker has 4 over 31. Joker has a much higher usage then Karrem, his career ave is 27%, Kareem has 1 season at 27%. Joker is much more involved on offense then Kareem ever was, If the Joker has better teammates why does he get more involved in the offense for Nuggets to be successful ? One thing is Joker is a far better rounded player that can do much more then Kareem could do. Today's era is definitely different, I don't know enough to judge the different era's but it is surprising to me anyways as to how good Jokic has become. He is the best player in the league today AND playing on an historical all-time level. Joker has more years over 31 PER then LBJ and Wilt, and tied with the one and only MJ at the top with 4 years over 31. Crazy. Next year he can be at the top all-alone if he can do it again. But it is not that easy to get over 31, not easy at all. I think he falls some next year but only time will tell.
Rack em!! Great stuff claw.
The impossible only takes longer….
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Interesting stat on joker, his career FG% on 2 pt shooting IS 60.9%. Did you know Kareem with his unstoppable sky-hook never even produce 1 season of 60.9% or better, not once. His best was 60.4% and he did hit 60% one other time, all Kareem's best shooting years came only when Magic joined the team. He never did it with the Big O, without any doubt he shot those higher %'s because of great passing by Magic that got him easy baskets, not his sky-hook. Joker was the better rebounder, better passer, better 2 pt shooter, better 3 pt shooter, Kareem never attempted a 3. Better FT shooter by far. Joker has a higher Player Efficiency Rating, 4 seasons over 31, Kareem has 0 over 30. Kareem has 3 over 29, Joker has 4 over 31. Joker has a much higher usage then Karrem, his career ave is 27%, Kareem has 1 season at 27%. Joker is much more involved on offense then Kareem ever was, If the Joker has better teammates why does he get more involved in the offense for Nuggets to be successful ? One thing is Joker is a far better rounded player that can do much more then Kareem could do. Today's era is definitely different, I don't know enough to judge the different era's but it is surprising to me anyways as to how good Jokic has become. He is the best player in the league today AND playing on an historical all-time level. Joker has more years over 31 PER then LBJ and Wilt, and tied with the one and only MJ at the top with 4 years over 31. Crazy. Next year he can be at the top all-alone if he can do it again. But it is not that easy to get over 31, not easy at all. I think he falls some next year but only time will tell.
Interesting stat on joker, his career FG% on 2 pt shooting IS 60.9%. Did you know Kareem with his unstoppable sky-hook never even produce 1 season of 60.9% or better, not once. His best was 60.4% and he did hit 60% one other time, all Kareem's best shooting years came only when Magic joined the team. He never did it with the Big O, without any doubt he shot those higher %'s because of great passing by Magic that got him easy baskets, not his sky-hook. Joker was the better rebounder, better passer, better 2 pt shooter, better 3 pt shooter, Kareem never attempted a 3. Better FT shooter by far. Joker has a higher Player Efficiency Rating, 4 seasons over 31, Kareem has 0 over 30. Kareem has 3 over 29, Joker has 4 over 31. Joker has a much higher usage than Karrem, his career ave is 27%, Kareem has 1 season at 27%. Joker is much more involved on offense then Kareem ever was, If the Joker has better teammates why does he get more involved in the offense for Nuggets to be successful ? One thing is Joker is a far better rounded player that can do much more then Kareem could do. Today's era is definitely different, I don't know enough to judge the different era's but it is surprising to me anyways as to how good Jokic has become. He is the best player in the league today AND playing on an historical all-time level. Joker has more years over 31 PER then LBJ and Wilt, and tied with the one and only MJ at the top with 4 years over 31. Crazy. Next year he can be at the top all-alone if he can do it again. But it is not that easy to get over 31, not easy at all. I think he falls some next year but only time will tell.
That’s apples to oranges but still a great stat. Kareem used to get beat on because they were allowed to play hard defense. Just a different era. I find this post season interesting because none of the games look like the regular season no defense playing games they had.
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Interesting stat on joker, his career FG% on 2 pt shooting IS 60.9%. Did you know Kareem with his unstoppable sky-hook never even produce 1 season of 60.9% or better, not once. His best was 60.4% and he did hit 60% one other time, all Kareem's best shooting years came only when Magic joined the team. He never did it with the Big O, without any doubt he shot those higher %'s because of great passing by Magic that got him easy baskets, not his sky-hook. Joker was the better rebounder, better passer, better 2 pt shooter, better 3 pt shooter, Kareem never attempted a 3. Better FT shooter by far. Joker has a higher Player Efficiency Rating, 4 seasons over 31, Kareem has 0 over 30. Kareem has 3 over 29, Joker has 4 over 31. Joker has a much higher usage than Karrem, his career ave is 27%, Kareem has 1 season at 27%. Joker is much more involved on offense then Kareem ever was, If the Joker has better teammates why does he get more involved in the offense for Nuggets to be successful ? One thing is Joker is a far better rounded player that can do much more then Kareem could do. Today's era is definitely different, I don't know enough to judge the different era's but it is surprising to me anyways as to how good Jokic has become. He is the best player in the league today AND playing on an historical all-time level. Joker has more years over 31 PER then LBJ and Wilt, and tied with the one and only MJ at the top with 4 years over 31. Crazy. Next year he can be at the top all-alone if he can do it again. But it is not that easy to get over 31, not easy at all. I think he falls some next year but only time will tell.
That’s apples to oranges but still a great stat. Kareem used to get beat on because they were allowed to play hard defense. Just a different era. I find this post season interesting because none of the games look like the regular season no defense playing games they had.
@PapaShango How old am I? Let’s just say I’m old enough to drop a load in your mom or significant other if you like. Have a nice day.
Probably around 15 or 16, experiencing what is known in today's medical circles as "late puberty" due to all the hormone blockers your mom and other mom force fed you since birth,,, perhaps the past few months you are finally starting to experience early signs of puberty from all that furry anime male on male porn you have been secretly watching while sniffing your 3rd mom's underwear and 4th mom's strap on as you fantasize being gang banged and hoed out on Leolist by Nikola and all his brothers and horses...but this is just a wild guess so I could be wrong.
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@PapaShango How old am I? Let’s just say I’m old enough to drop a load in your mom or significant other if you like. Have a nice day.
Probably around 15 or 16, experiencing what is known in today's medical circles as "late puberty" due to all the hormone blockers your mom and other mom force fed you since birth,,, perhaps the past few months you are finally starting to experience early signs of puberty from all that furry anime male on male porn you have been secretly watching while sniffing your 3rd mom's underwear and 4th mom's strap on as you fantasize being gang banged and hoed out on Leolist by Nikola and all his brothers and horses...but this is just a wild guess so I could be wrong.
@wolfeman3 You forgot to mention the great Tim Duncan!!! Jokic when it's all said and done may go down as the best. Big man ever. But still has a long ways to go...
TIMMY!!! the big Fundamental Absolutely had a run on the NBA similar to Jokic’s currently…..great call!!
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Quote Originally Posted by jdukes0004:
@wolfeman3 You forgot to mention the great Tim Duncan!!! Jokic when it's all said and done may go down as the best. Big man ever. But still has a long ways to go...
TIMMY!!! the big Fundamental Absolutely had a run on the NBA similar to Jokic’s currently…..great call!!
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