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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 5:25 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    LBJ helped Heat won two NBA Championships and Cavs to play in multiple NBA Finals, it won't be possible without LeBron James.  

    It was definitely possible in Miami before Lebron got there because Wade led his team to a championship before Lebron arrived.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    LBJ helped Heat won two NBA Championships and Cavs to play in multiple NBA Finals, it won't be possible without LeBron James.  

    It was definitely possible in Miami before Lebron got there because Wade led his team to a championship before Lebron arrived.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 5:26 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

     i'd like to see Westbrook with that size....it would be unfair

    This really is an ignorant comment.  Do you understand why bigger players are slower and shorter players are quicker?  It based on the limitations of the human body.  If Westbrook had Lebrons body, he couldn't move the way he can move now in a smaller body.  So it's so stupid to make a comment like this.  It's like saying can you imagine Steph Curry in Yao Mings body, wow!!  Thinking this way is not living in reality.

    The fact that Lebron is as athletic and versatile AT HIS SIZE, is what makes him so special.  No other human being can do what he can do at that size.  He's literally pushed the boundaries of what a human body is capable of.  Think this through bruh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

     i'd like to see Westbrook with that size....it would be unfair

    This really is an ignorant comment.  Do you understand why bigger players are slower and shorter players are quicker?  It based on the limitations of the human body.  If Westbrook had Lebrons body, he couldn't move the way he can move now in a smaller body.  So it's so stupid to make a comment like this.  It's like saying can you imagine Steph Curry in Yao Mings body, wow!!  Thinking this way is not living in reality.

    The fact that Lebron is as athletic and versatile AT HIS SIZE, is what makes him so special.  No other human being can do what he can do at that size.  He's literally pushed the boundaries of what a human body is capable of.  Think this through bruh.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 5:30 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Just think about it take away his size and hes an ordinary player...i'd like to see Westbrook with that size....it would be unfair

    If Christian Ponder had Aaron Rodgers arm, Bradys leadership, Mannings brain, and Vicks legs hed be awesome. What an educated assessment. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Just think about it take away his size and hes an ordinary player...i'd like to see Westbrook with that size....it would be unfair

    If Christian Ponder had Aaron Rodgers arm, Bradys leadership, Mannings brain, and Vicks legs hed be awesome. What an educated assessment. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 5:47 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:




    Basketball is a team sport, Wade is an excellent player so is LBJ. Wade would probably not win two more NBA Championships without LBJ and Chris Bosh. 

    If i were a hoop coach, I'll take LBJ in my team, in any given day.  

    wade probably would not have two more rings but he had one without LeBron... like i said LeBrick is overrated...he's not fundamentally and good player his greatest asset is his size...pound for pound westbrook is better than lebron IMO


    Last time I check cavs made playoffs okc didn't ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:




    Basketball is a team sport, Wade is an excellent player so is LBJ. Wade would probably not win two more NBA Championships without LBJ and Chris Bosh. 

    If i were a hoop coach, I'll take LBJ in my team, in any given day.  

    wade probably would not have two more rings but he had one without LeBron... like i said LeBrick is overrated...he's not fundamentally and good player his greatest asset is his size...pound for pound westbrook is better than lebron IMO


    Last time I check cavs made playoffs okc didn't ....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 5:53 PM ET #30

    Not a LeBron fan. But don't feed the troll. People who said LBJ is no good are ignorant AF and toxic trolls to the sporting world.
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    Not a LeBron fan. But don't feed the troll. People who said LBJ is no good are ignorant AF and toxic trolls to the sporting world.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 6:35 PM ET #31


    Warriors fan here Lebron killed it last night.  He was playing really well and had 44 points how is he overrated?  Lebron is unstoppable you can only hope to contain he is too gifted of a player to not get his points rebounds and assists.
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    Warriors fan here Lebron killed it last night.  He was playing really well and had 44 points how is he overrated?  Lebron is unstoppable you can only hope to contain he is too gifted of a player to not get his points rebounds and assists.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 7:42 PM ET #32

    Overrated? Lmao you must be a hater look at what he does
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    Overrated? Lmao you must be a hater look at what he does
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 8:02 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by SCC:

    Not a LeBron fan. But don't feed the troll. People who said LBJ is no good are ignorant AF and toxic trolls to the sporting world.



    Agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCC:

    Not a LeBron fan. But don't feed the troll. People who said LBJ is no good are ignorant AF and toxic trolls to the sporting world.



    Agreed
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 8:37 PM ET #34

    He scored over 40
    He can't carry Cavs by himself
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    He scored over 40
    He can't carry Cavs by himself
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 11:59 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


    This really is an ignorant comment.  Do you understand why bigger players are slower and shorter players are quicker?  It based on the limitations of the human body.  If Westbrook had Lebrons body, he couldn't move the way he can move now in a smaller body.  So it's so stupid to make a comment like this.  It's like saying can you imagine Steph Curry in Yao Mings body, wow!!  Thinking this way is not living in reality.

    The fact that Lebron is as athletic and versatile AT HIS SIZE, is what makes him so special.  No other human being can do what he can do at that size.  He's literally pushed the boundaries of what a human body is capable of.  Think this through bruh.

    what im really saying is, put every skill player at the same height and weight and keep thier current skill set, where does lebron rank...His size is what makes him "so good"....he should be a NFL tight end. jimmy graham is faster and weights 15 pounds more...Lebron picked an  easy sport

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    This really is an ignorant comment.  Do you understand why bigger players are slower and shorter players are quicker?  It based on the limitations of the human body.  If Westbrook had Lebrons body, he couldn't move the way he can move now in a smaller body.  So it's so stupid to make a comment like this.  It's like saying can you imagine Steph Curry in Yao Mings body, wow!!  Thinking this way is not living in reality.

    The fact that Lebron is as athletic and versatile AT HIS SIZE, is what makes him so special.  No other human being can do what he can do at that size.  He's literally pushed the boundaries of what a human body is capable of.  Think this through bruh.

    what im really saying is, put every skill player at the same height and weight and keep thier current skill set, where does lebron rank...His size is what makes him "so good"....he should be a NFL tight end. jimmy graham is faster and weights 15 pounds more...Lebron picked an  easy sport

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 12:10 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    what im really saying is, put every skill player at the same height and weight and keep thier current skill set, where does lebron rank...His size is what makes him "so good"....he should be a NFL tight end. jimmy graham is faster and weights 15 pounds more...Lebron picked an  easy sport


    Why don't we say what if every player had the same speed and quickness. Where would guys like Westbrook or CP3 stand? Lebron's size is what makes him so good but Westbrooks quickness is what makes him so good. I don't really get the point. Put Tim Duncan at the same size as Tony Parker and he may not have one ring so this is a pretty stupid way of thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    what im really saying is, put every skill player at the same height and weight and keep thier current skill set, where does lebron rank...His size is what makes him "so good"....he should be a NFL tight end. jimmy graham is faster and weights 15 pounds more...Lebron picked an  easy sport


    Why don't we say what if every player had the same speed and quickness. Where would guys like Westbrook or CP3 stand? Lebron's size is what makes him so good but Westbrooks quickness is what makes him so good. I don't really get the point. Put Tim Duncan at the same size as Tony Parker and he may not have one ring so this is a pretty stupid way of thinking.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 12:23 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:


    Why don't we say what if every player had the same speed and quickness. Where would guys like Westbrook or CP3 stand? Lebron's size is what makes him so good but Westbrooks quickness is what makes him so good. I don't really get the point. Put Tim Duncan at the same size as Tony Parker and he may not have one ring so this is a pretty stupid way of thinking.

    Westbrooks agressive attack first mentaility is what makes him so good...there are things you can do to develop agility and/or quickness, such as agility drills, there is nothing you can do to teach size... if every player had the same speed and quckness than it would come down to who has the best fundamentals where westbrook and lebron would fall short

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:


    Why don't we say what if every player had the same speed and quickness. Where would guys like Westbrook or CP3 stand? Lebron's size is what makes him so good but Westbrooks quickness is what makes him so good. I don't really get the point. Put Tim Duncan at the same size as Tony Parker and he may not have one ring so this is a pretty stupid way of thinking.

    Westbrooks agressive attack first mentaility is what makes him so good...there are things you can do to develop agility and/or quickness, such as agility drills, there is nothing you can do to teach size... if every player had the same speed and quckness than it would come down to who has the best fundamentals where westbrook and lebron would fall short

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 12:27 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Westbrooks agressive attack first mentaility is what makes him so good...there are things you can do to develop agility and/or quickness, such as agility drills, there is nothing you can do to teach size... if every player had the same speed and quckness than it would come down to who has the best fundamentals where westbrook and lebron would fall short


    But do you not hear how stupid this conversation sounds. Sure take Lebrons size away hes not as good. Maybe if Durant would pick up a dumbbell every now and then he'd be in the conversation for the best player. You may not be able to do anything about height but you can get bigger in the same way you can get quicker. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Westbrooks agressive attack first mentaility is what makes him so good...there are things you can do to develop agility and/or quickness, such as agility drills, there is nothing you can do to teach size... if every player had the same speed and quckness than it would come down to who has the best fundamentals where westbrook and lebron would fall short


    But do you not hear how stupid this conversation sounds. Sure take Lebrons size away hes not as good. Maybe if Durant would pick up a dumbbell every now and then he'd be in the conversation for the best player. You may not be able to do anything about height but you can get bigger in the same way you can get quicker. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 1:22 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:


    Why don't we say what if every player had the same speed and quickness. Where would guys like Westbrook or CP3 stand? Lebron's size is what makes him so good but Westbrooks quickness is what makes him so good. I don't really get the point. Put Tim Duncan at the same size as Tony Parker and he may not have one ring so this is a pretty stupid way of thinking.


    just an idiotic argument from an idiot...difficult to believe sumone wud start such a moronic thread.

    jordan was NOTHING without his height,insane athleticism,heart,skill,desire,killer instinct.....take all those things away and he's garbage...come on,man i dont see wat the big deal is   
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    Why don't we say what if every player had the same speed and quickness. Where would guys like Westbrook or CP3 stand? Lebron's size is what makes him so good but Westbrooks quickness is what makes him so good. I don't really get the point. Put Tim Duncan at the same size as Tony Parker and he may not have one ring so this is a pretty stupid way of thinking.


    just an idiotic argument from an idiot...difficult to believe sumone wud start such a moronic thread.

    jordan was NOTHING without his height,insane athleticism,heart,skill,desire,killer instinct.....take all those things away and he's garbage...come on,man i dont see wat the big deal is   
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 1:24 PM ET #40

    wen sumone starts a thead by taking a guys name and replacing it with a body part ya just know the credibility level went waay off the charts
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    wen sumone starts a thead by taking a guys name and replacing it with a body part ya just know the credibility level went waay off the charts
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Westbrooks agressive attack first mentaility is what makes him so good...there are things you can do to develop agility and/or quickness, such as agility drills, there is nothing you can do to teach size... if every player had the same speed and quckness than it would come down to who has the best fundamentals where westbrook and lebron would fall short


    100% wrong..im not sure youve got anything rite yet in this thread....his aggression is NOT wat makes him who he is,in that case if sumone as slow and weak as you or i were super aggressive then we cud get to the hole like westbrook does....no point wanting to be in attack mode if you dont have wat it takes to accelerate and elevate to where you wanna get and then the skill to finish...ya gotta have the tools first and then the mindset comes after.

    and there aint no fu.king drills on this planet that can turn sumone into the type of physical freak westbrook is...if there was dont you think half the league wud be doing them??
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    Westbrooks agressive attack first mentaility is what makes him so good...there are things you can do to develop agility and/or quickness, such as agility drills, there is nothing you can do to teach size... if every player had the same speed and quckness than it would come down to who has the best fundamentals where westbrook and lebron would fall short


    100% wrong..im not sure youve got anything rite yet in this thread....his aggression is NOT wat makes him who he is,in that case if sumone as slow and weak as you or i were super aggressive then we cud get to the hole like westbrook does....no point wanting to be in attack mode if you dont have wat it takes to accelerate and elevate to where you wanna get and then the skill to finish...ya gotta have the tools first and then the mindset comes after.

    and there aint no fu.king drills on this planet that can turn sumone into the type of physical freak westbrook is...if there was dont you think half the league wud be doing them??
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 1:33 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:



    just an idiotic argument from an idiot...difficult to believe sumone wud start such a moronic thread.

    jordan was NOTHING without his height,insane athleticism,heart,skill,desire,killer instinct.....take all those things away and he's garbage...come on,man i dont see wat the big deal is   

    yet you took the time out of your day to voice your opinion on such an idiotic argument so that makes you what...

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    just an idiotic argument from an idiot...difficult to believe sumone wud start such a moronic thread.

    jordan was NOTHING without his height,insane athleticism,heart,skill,desire,killer instinct.....take all those things away and he's garbage...come on,man i dont see wat the big deal is   

    yet you took the time out of your day to voice your opinion on such an idiotic argument so that makes you what...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 1:48 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:


    100% wrong..im not sure youve got anything rite yet in this thread....his aggression is NOT wat makes him who he is,in that case if sumone as slow and weak as you or i were super aggressive then we cud get to the hole like westbrook does....no point wanting to be in attack mode if you dont have wat it takes to accelerate and elevate to where you wanna get and then the skill to finish...ya gotta have the tools first and then the mindset comes after.

    and there aint no fu.king drills on this planet that can turn sumone into the type of physical freak westbrook is...if there was dont you think half the league wud be doing them??

    Are you stupid...do you play ball??? you can be slow and non athlethic and still be agressive and get to the hole...look at paul peirce...he's extremely agressive slasing to the rim and finishes extremely well at the basket....your so wrong its all about the mindset and working with the tools you have. but im done here

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    100% wrong..im not sure youve got anything rite yet in this thread....his aggression is NOT wat makes him who he is,in that case if sumone as slow and weak as you or i were super aggressive then we cud get to the hole like westbrook does....no point wanting to be in attack mode if you dont have wat it takes to accelerate and elevate to where you wanna get and then the skill to finish...ya gotta have the tools first and then the mindset comes after.

    and there aint no fu.king drills on this planet that can turn sumone into the type of physical freak westbrook is...if there was dont you think half the league wud be doing them??

    Are you stupid...do you play ball??? you can be slow and non athlethic and still be agressive and get to the hole...look at paul peirce...he's extremely agressive slasing to the rim and finishes extremely well at the basket....your so wrong its all about the mindset and working with the tools you have. but im done here

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2015 - 2:47 PM ET #44

    yes lebron gets away with HGH just like every other celebtrity, we get it
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    yes lebron gets away with HGH just like every other celebtrity, we get it
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Are you stupid...do you play ball??? you can be slow and non athlethic and still be agressive and get to the hole...look at paul peirce...he's extremely agressive slasing to the rim and finishes extremely well at the basket....your so wrong its all about the mindset and working with the tools you have. but im done here


    huh???...wat???.....paul pierce DOES NOT get into the paint and score anything like westbrook...wat the feck are you talking about??...i didnt say that no-one else in basketball history can get to the rim unless theyre super athletic,of course there are different ways to break down a defense with footwork,finnesse,nuance etc.....wat i said was to do it as often and effectively as westbrook does at his size you have to have his type of physical abilities,NOT only his mentality......if he had andre millers physical gifts and tried to play with that attack mentality he wudnt even make the league.
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    Are you stupid...do you play ball??? you can be slow and non athlethic and still be agressive and get to the hole...look at paul peirce...he's extremely agressive slasing to the rim and finishes extremely well at the basket....your so wrong its all about the mindset and working with the tools you have. but im done here


    huh???...wat???.....paul pierce DOES NOT get into the paint and score anything like westbrook...wat the feck are you talking about??...i didnt say that no-one else in basketball history can get to the rim unless theyre super athletic,of course there are different ways to break down a defense with footwork,finnesse,nuance etc.....wat i said was to do it as often and effectively as westbrook does at his size you have to have his type of physical abilities,NOT only his mentality......if he had andre millers physical gifts and tried to play with that attack mentality he wudnt even make the league.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    yet you took the time out of your day to voice your opinion on such an idiotic argument so that makes you what...


    it makes me sumone that likes to point out an idiot for the benefit of others.
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    yet you took the time out of your day to voice your opinion on such an idiotic argument so that makes you what...


    it makes me sumone that likes to point out an idiot for the benefit of others.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshchs77:

    Just think about it take away his size and hes an ordinary player...i'd like to see Westbrook with that size....it would be unfair

    Don't hate LBJ, he isn't overrated. He is good.   
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    Just think about it take away his size and hes an ordinary player...i'd like to see Westbrook with that size....it would be unfair

    Don't hate LBJ, he isn't overrated. He is good.   
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2015 - 4:03 AM ET #48

    Now I remember why I stopped posting here...

    Feckin placed is filled with 15 year old losers like the original posters who absolute dik about basketball.
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    Now I remember why I stopped posting here...

    Feckin placed is filled with 15 year old losers like the original posters who absolute dik about basketball.
     
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    Lebrons biggest critic here for years. but he is killing himself to win, showing me something I never thought Id see out of the guy and thats Heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

    Lebrons biggest critic here for years. but he is killing himself to win, showing me something I never thought Id see out of the guy and thats Heart.

    huh??

    you dont think he showed heart to carry an incredibly weak cavs team to the finals vs spurs??then to comfortably beat the more fancied thunder on the road in the finals??then to win an epic series in miraculous fashion vs spurs??then to be dominant again vs one of the best teams of the past 25 years last year??...none of that showed his heart at any moment??
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    Lebrons biggest critic here for years. but he is killing himself to win, showing me something I never thought Id see out of the guy and thats Heart.

    huh??

    you dont think he showed heart to carry an incredibly weak cavs team to the finals vs spurs??then to comfortably beat the more fancied thunder on the road in the finals??then to win an epic series in miraculous fashion vs spurs??then to be dominant again vs one of the best teams of the past 25 years last year??...none of that showed his heart at any moment??
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