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I listen pretty religiously to the NBA Today podcast, and Tim Legler (who is fantastic, btw) was asked by Mike Yam if Jeremy Lin is in the top 10 PGs right now in the NBA. I immediately thought "absolutely not" and Legler, to his credit, said no. I thought about the question some more and asked: what PGs would I rather have over Jeremy Lin right now? Here's the list I came up with:

Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
John Wall
Ricky Rubio
Steph Curry

That's ten right there without even getting into guys like Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Ty Lawson, Mike Conley, Kyrie Irving, Darren Collison.

Lin isn't anywhere near the top 10 at his position yet, is he?
 
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Posted: #2
Jeremy Lin is probably in the top 20.
 
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Posted: #3
However, out of the ten point guards you enumerated, I think that Chris Paul is the best.
 
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Posted: #4
Kapono, no Jason Kidd?  Andre Miller?  Brandon Jennings?

In a few weeks, Lin may not be starting on his own team (if Baron Davis can get in shape).


 
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Posted: #5
remove wall, curry, rubio,...

add LIN, Jennings, Lawson


D-Will is the league best PG right now.
 
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Posted: #6
I dunno how I forgot about Andre Miller, old man is still balling hard. Kidd is up there as is Jennings.

Mad -- remove rubio? HERESY
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

I listen pretty religiously to the NBA Today podcast, and Tim Legler (who is fantastic, btw) was asked by Mike Yam if Jeremy Lin is in the top 10 PGs right now in the NBA. I immediately thought "absolutely not" and Legler, to his credit, said no. I thought about the question some more and asked: what PGs would I rather have over Jeremy Lin right now? Here's the list I came up with:

Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
John Wall
Ricky Rubio
Steph Curry

That's ten right there without even getting into guys like Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Ty Lawson, Mike Conley, Kyrie Irving, Darren Collison.

Lin isn't anywhere near the top 10 at his position yet, is he?


TOP TEN PG in the NBA (in order)
1. Rose
2. Chris Paul
3. Rondo 
4. WestBrook
5. D Williams 
6. Tony Parker 
7. Ty Lawson 
8 .Raymond Felton
9. Kyle Lowry 
10. Jason Kidd 




Guys that aren't in the top ten that are better than lin. 

- Jennings
- Nash 
- Curry 
- Jeff Teague
- JJ Reddick 
 
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Posted: #8
JJ  reddick





kap , i know you like minny and ricky, so you are a bit subjective on this one.

11 and 7 are not better than Lin's numbers....
 
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Posted: #9
Ray Felton above Nash, IMP? I dunno if I can get on board with that one.
 
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I think Rose is just a little overrated. Noway did he deserves the MVP over Lebron and I hate Lebron. NOONE not even Durant who I love should ever beat Lebron. I have never seen someone who just shows up and can basically give you a triple double every night if he wants. Imagine him if he played in triangle offense. Even though I dont like him because I think he could be even better if he wanted to be NIGHT IN AND NIGHT OUT; he is still the best there is. He never entered a dunk contest but I would put him up against the best in Vince Carter in his prime and Lebron would win. The guy is just a beast.
 
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Posted: #11

Let's just agree on who is at the top of the list. The rest everyone can scramble around to their liking.

There is one PG that can do it all. Shoot, score, pass, assist, dribble, steal, block, and be humble about his game.

Mr Derrick "do it all" Rose

 
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Posted: #12
Do people really think Derrick Rose a better overall point guard than Chris Paul?
 
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I think Chris Paul is the best pg in the league. But, with that said D Rose is the best fit for his teams and what his team needs than any other pg in the league. If you look at the Bulls they don't have anyother players that can create a shot for themselves. They need a scorer and someone who can bail them out.

Chris Pauls is best overall Point Guard though.

 
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Posted: #14
1. D rose
2. C paul
3. D will
4. T parker
5. R westbrook
6. R rondo
7. B jennings
8.
 
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Posted: #15
8. Tyreke evans
9. John wall
10. Kyrie irving

Cant believe nobody said tyreke

But lin is in next group with lawson felton kidd nash curry
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan18:

8. Tyreke evans
9. John wall
10. Kyrie irving

Cant believe nobody said tyreke

But lin is in next group with lawson felton kidd nash curry


Tyreke Evans is not in the top 10 POINT GUARDS in the league. 
 
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Posted: #17
jesus, Ray Felton should be nowhere in this discussion


i'd basically agree with everything else for the most part
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

I listen pretty religiously to the NBA Today podcast, and Tim Legler (who is fantastic, btw) was asked by Mike Yam if Jeremy Lin is in the top 10 PGs right now in the NBA. I immediately thought "absolutely not" and Legler, to his credit, said no. I thought about the question some more and asked: what PGs would I rather have over Jeremy Lin right now? Here's the list I came up with:

Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
John Wall
Ricky Rubio
Steph Curry

That's ten right there without even getting into guys like Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Ty Lawson, Mike Conley, Kyrie Irving, Darren Collison.

Lin isn't anywhere near the top 10 at his position yet, is he?

i would take kyle lowry over a couple of those guys.. Lowrys been a beast this year. most underated point guard in the league.. should of made the allstar team.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

Ray Felton above Nash, IMP? I dunno if I can get on board with that one.

i agre with you kap, felton isnt even top 15 pgs. he isnt even starting anymore...

 

 
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Posted: #20
It's nearly impossible to declare a "best" PG because of the situations they are in. Rose, CP3, and D Will are clearly the top 3. As for Lin, you'd be better off listing the starting PGs that he is actually better than, it's not a very long list.
 
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Lin is a pup. Long ways to go before he proves his true value.

Tyreke is more of a shooting gaurd.

 Mr. Big Shot?

 
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Posted: #22
Top point guard as of right now has to be d rose. Nuff said.
 
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Imagine if the Knicks had Nash instead of Lin?

Reunite Amare n Nash n D'antoni?


I would have a good laugh if Suns bought into the Linsanity and brought the kid to Phoenix.

Lin for Nash straight up.


As if that would ever happen
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

remove wall, curry, rubio,...

add LIN, Jennings, Lawson


D-Will is the league best PG right now.


I disagree heres my top 5

1) CP3
2) Deron Williams
3) Derrick Rose
4) Westbrook
5) Rondo

Theres also another way we could go with this, best true point guards and best scoring point guards. Best True point guards Rose and Westbrook wouldn't be in my top 5 but overall PGS they are.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan18:

8. Tyreke evans
9. John wall
10. Kyrie irving

Cant believe nobody said tyreke

But lin is in next group with lawson felton kidd nash curry


Tyreke Evans isnt even playing PG at the moment. He really is a SG with above average playmaking ability. I do love him as a player though hes explosive at getting to the cup.
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