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    ROCKETS @ SPURS: GAME 5!!! 10-4 Playoff Run. Write-Up And Pick!

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    Record: 29-29

    2017 Playoffs: 10-4 (Easily my best ever and I'm going for more)

    The Pick:

    Spurs -5.5 over Rockets

    1. Line Reading

    I said in the past we can use this to cap a game. And here we will use it as an angle that makes up a piece of the angle puzzle.

    Remember I said that the home/road switch for the spread is -6.5 at the low end and -10 at the high end.

    Well, I can't even recall when the switch was this high, and that has certainly raised my eyebrows to a side without even capping the two participants.

    Last game the Rockets opened at -5.5 pt favorites.

    Yesterday, the Spurs opened on 5Dimes as -6 point favorites.

    That exceeds the upper bound of the home road switch by 1.5 points!

    That, I haven't seen in a long time. Perhaps there are some examples but I don't recall them.

    The fact of the matter is here, who in the world is clamoring to take the Spurs with an WHOPPING ELEVEN AND A HALF POINT line swing??? Even if the casual bettor does not know what I am talking about, they sense that is extreme. Too much to hand to the Spurs after last game. 

    That tells me, and this is conjecture but standard line reading, that Vegas is asking you to take Houston, JUST as they asked you to take the Bucks +6 in game 5, a game they got thumped. And the Rockets can get thumped here. Because +6 in a playoff game is a big line and Vegas has to have the balls to lay that number knowing squares should be on Houston...

    Why?

    That leads to Point 2

    2. Sharp is the "New Square"

    Squares in 2017 know our betting patterns: we look to bet dogs because Vegas traditionally wipes the felt clean when the dog not only covers, but sends all the ML's up in flames with an outright win.

    So Squares, in theory, actually bet "Sharp" in spots like this (i.e., Dogs).

    So the Sharp side per se, reverts to the old Square side, the favorite. So we actually want to bet "square" (Favorite) which is now "sharp". Got it?

    By betting the Spurs, you are actually betting Sharp.

    Conjecture, but a fun topic and one I enjoy debating.

    And if you don't believe any of this in terms of what the Square sees, defer to the "Recency Effect". What square after seeing the Rockets destroy the Spurs (The most recent game) is clamoring to take the Spurs SU or worse -6!?

    Conclusion: Take the Spurs now at, -5.5.

    3. The Beverly Boost with Honoring the Deceased Angle.

    Beverly's Grandfather passed away hours before the game.

    This not only IMPROVES Beverly's performance but rallies the team around him in solidarity. How long this lasts is anyone's guess (For Isaiah Thomas it lasted several games in and out of funeral/wake services).

    But Beverly is no Thomas. Thomas is that teams star. As was Favre when his father died and Favre threw for 300+ on Monday Night Football.

    Beverly and the team got their boost and have moved on to concentrating on the series IMO. Not necessarily Beverly who can have another good performance, but he can't pour in 53 if need be. The guy defers to scorers, he is not the one scoring.

    Worse, Beverly missed all of today's practices at services flying home today and will miss some tomorrow. That matters. Why?

    Point 4.

    4. The Rockets are going small and have announced it too.

    This is a bad thing.

    It was a good thing because the Rockets went small after Nene when down last game, surprisingly playing Ryan Anderson at the 5 and Harden on one of the two Spurs bigs.

    It completely confused them for moments, and in those moments where they didn't adjust, Harden and Anderson and Gordon were bombing from downtown and hitting everything ballooning the lead to 19 at times in the second half. Game over.

    BUT D'Antoni has unwisely told the media he wants stay small, shoot close to 50 threes and not in so many words, use the same gameplan that won them the last game.

    This is a problem. A big one. Why? Point 5

    5. You don't show your hand to the Mad Genius

    Popovic loves situations like this. Coming home and lambasting his team for a horrid performance. Not only will he have the Spurs adjust on the perimeter to limit the 3's in Game 5, he KNOWS Anderson will get increased minutes, as will Wiltjer, as will Montrell Harrell, as will Dekker!

    Why does he know? D'Antoni said they'd play small again. Not like they have a choice after Nene went down.

    And Nene going down is point 6.

    6. The Nene boost

    Not only did the Rockets get a boost from Beverly and the Honoring the Deceased Angle, but they got a boost from Nene going down in the same way the Jazz got a boost when Gobert went down in Game 1 vs. the Clippers and they won on a JJ shot at the buzzer; in the same way the Clippers won Game 4 when Blake went down.

    Translation: Your Big goes down. You go small. The other team can't adjust fast enough. They didn't gameplan for it. You win. Potentially big. But that big win is more of a mirage than substantive.

    The Spurs will be prepared now because they know exactly what Mikey D will do. He said as much. And they'll have the Mad Genius, the best of the best, to prepare them.

    Now to the final point.

    7. You need to lean on the following players as a Rockets backer:

    Capela

    Dekker with increased minutes

    Wiltjer with increased minutes

    Montrell Harrell who may get minutes for Nene

    And remember the Spurs rendered other bench small players like Gordon and Lou useless in a Game 4 win. It can happen again.

    You do not want to depend on the list above, even GETTING 6.

    7 REASONS TO TAKE THE SPURS. I have more if necessary.

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    Record: 29-29

    2017 Playoffs: 10-4 (Easily my best ever and I'm going for more)

    The Pick:

    Spurs -5.5 over Rockets

    1. Line Reading

    I said in the past we can use this to cap a game. And here we will use it as an angle that makes up a piece of the angle puzzle.

    Remember I said that the home/road switch for the spread is -6.5 at the low end and -10 at the high end.

    Well, I can't even recall when the switch was this high, and that has certainly raised my eyebrows to a side without even capping the two participants.

    Last game the Rockets opened at -5.5 pt favorites.

    Yesterday, the Spurs opened on 5Dimes as -6 point favorites.

    That exceeds the upper bound of the home road switch by 1.5 points!

    That, I haven't seen in a long time. Perhaps there are some examples but I don't recall them.

    The fact of the matter is here, who in the world is clamoring to take the Spurs with an WHOPPING ELEVEN AND A HALF POINT line swing??? Even if the casual bettor does not know what I am talking about, they sense that is extreme. Too much to hand to the Spurs after last game. 

    That tells me, and this is conjecture but standard line reading, that Vegas is asking you to take Houston, JUST as they asked you to take the Bucks +6 in game 5, a game they got thumped. And the Rockets can get thumped here. Because +6 in a playoff game is a big line and Vegas has to have the balls to lay that number knowing squares should be on Houston...

    Why?

    That leads to Point 2

    2. Sharp is the "New Square"

    Squares in 2017 know our betting patterns: we look to bet dogs because Vegas traditionally wipes the felt clean when the dog not only covers, but sends all the ML's up in flames with an outright win.

    So Squares, in theory, actually bet "Sharp" in spots like this (i.e., Dogs).

    So the Sharp side per se, reverts to the old Square side, the favorite. So we actually want to bet "square" (Favorite) which is now "sharp". Got it?

    By betting the Spurs, you are actually betting Sharp.

    Conjecture, but a fun topic and one I enjoy debating.

    And if you don't believe any of this in terms of what the Square sees, defer to the "Recency Effect". What square after seeing the Rockets destroy the Spurs (The most recent game) is clamoring to take the Spurs SU or worse -6!?

    Conclusion: Take the Spurs now at, -5.5.

    3. The Beverly Boost with Honoring the Deceased Angle.

    Beverly's Grandfather passed away hours before the game.

    This not only IMPROVES Beverly's performance but rallies the team around him in solidarity. How long this lasts is anyone's guess (For Isaiah Thomas it lasted several games in and out of funeral/wake services).

    But Beverly is no Thomas. Thomas is that teams star. As was Favre when his father died and Favre threw for 300+ on Monday Night Football.

    Beverly and the team got their boost and have moved on to concentrating on the series IMO. Not necessarily Beverly who can have another good performance, but he can't pour in 53 if need be. The guy defers to scorers, he is not the one scoring.

    Worse, Beverly missed all of today's practices at services flying home today and will miss some tomorrow. That matters. Why?

    Point 4.

    4. The Rockets are going small and have announced it too.

    This is a bad thing.

    It was a good thing because the Rockets went small after Nene when down last game, surprisingly playing Ryan Anderson at the 5 and Harden on one of the two Spurs bigs.

    It completely confused them for moments, and in those moments where they didn't adjust, Harden and Anderson and Gordon were bombing from downtown and hitting everything ballooning the lead to 19 at times in the second half. Game over.

    BUT D'Antoni has unwisely told the media he wants stay small, shoot close to 50 threes and not in so many words, use the same gameplan that won them the last game.

    This is a problem. A big one. Why? Point 5

    5. You don't show your hand to the Mad Genius

    Popovic loves situations like this. Coming home and lambasting his team for a horrid performance. Not only will he have the Spurs adjust on the perimeter to limit the 3's in Game 5, he KNOWS Anderson will get increased minutes, as will Wiltjer, as will Montrell Harrell, as will Dekker!

    Why does he know? D'Antoni said they'd play small again. Not like they have a choice after Nene went down.

    And Nene going down is point 6.

    6. The Nene boost

    Not only did the Rockets get a boost from Beverly and the Honoring the Deceased Angle, but they got a boost from Nene going down in the same way the Jazz got a boost when Gobert went down in Game 1 vs. the Clippers and they won on a JJ shot at the buzzer; in the same way the Clippers won Game 4 when Blake went down.

    Translation: Your Big goes down. You go small. The other team can't adjust fast enough. They didn't gameplan for it. You win. Potentially big. But that big win is more of a mirage than substantive.

    The Spurs will be prepared now because they know exactly what Mikey D will do. He said as much. And they'll have the Mad Genius, the best of the best, to prepare them.

    Now to the final point.

    7. You need to lean on the following players as a Rockets backer:

    Capela

    Dekker with increased minutes

    Wiltjer with increased minutes

    Montrell Harrell who may get minutes for Nene

    And remember the Spurs rendered other bench small players like Gordon and Lou useless in a Game 4 win. It can happen again.

    You do not want to depend on the list above, even GETTING 6.

    7 REASONS TO TAKE THE SPURS. I have more if necessary.

     
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    And I say point 7 because there simply is not enough experience or savvy veteran presence necessary to hand out minutes to those players in a game like this. Capela has been great. The rest of the list? On and off at times, even Anderson...and on and off is dangerous in a Game 5 in the Playoffs.
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    And I say point 7 because there simply is not enough experience or savvy veteran presence necessary to hand out minutes to those players in a game like this. Capela has been great. The rest of the list? On and off at times, even Anderson...and on and off is dangerous in a Game 5 in the Playoffs.
     
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    The spurs opened @ 5dimes at -5.5 at 8:33pm est 
    went up to - 6 @ 8:43pm est

    went back down to -5.5 @ 6:09 am est today.

    Looked up line history if it matters at all
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    The spurs opened @ 5dimes at -5.5 at 8:33pm est 
    went up to - 6 @ 8:43pm est

    went back down to -5.5 @ 6:09 am est today.

    Looked up line history if it matters at all
     
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    taking the spurs as a fav at home...thats a square play..bol with your pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by XIaggie:

    taking the spurs as a fav at home...thats a square play..bol with your pick
    ok.


    I was told I was square taking the Bucks +6 in Game 5 so its all conjecture. I said as much.

    And I argued that the square play is actually the Rockets for the reasons above. Reread. It's all there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XIaggie:

    taking the spurs as a fav at home...thats a square play..bol with your pick
    ok.


    I was told I was square taking the Bucks +6 in Game 5 so its all conjecture. I said as much.

    And I argued that the square play is actually the Rockets for the reasons above. Reread. It's all there.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by serge82:

    The spurs opened @ 5dimes at -5.5 at 8:33pm est 
    went up to - 6 @ 8:43pm est

    went back down to -5.5 @ 6:09 am est today.

    Looked up line history if it matters at all


    10 minutes.

    Effectively it opened at 6 and doesn't defeat the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serge82:

    The spurs opened @ 5dimes at -5.5 at 8:33pm est 
    went up to - 6 @ 8:43pm est

    went back down to -5.5 @ 6:09 am est today.

    Looked up line history if it matters at all


    10 minutes.

    Effectively it opened at 6 and doesn't defeat the point.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:18 PM ET #7

    10 - 4  run  write up and pick whoopee !!! 

    I  don't get it  it sounds like you're trying to sell something  everyone's having this run or better all these games have been very predictable 
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    10 - 4  run  write up and pick whoopee !!! 

    I  don't get it  it sounds like you're trying to sell something  everyone's having this run or better all these games have been very predictable 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kent55:

    10 - 4  run  write up and pick whoopee !!! 

    I  don't get it  it sounds like you're trying to sell something  everyone's having this run or better all these games have been very predictable 

    I've been here for 10 years you dope. I have nothing to sell.

    EVERYONE is having these runs!!! Of course they are!! We are all winning all the time. I've heard it all. Really. EVERYONE Is having this run takes the cake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kent55:

    10 - 4  run  write up and pick whoopee !!! 

    I  don't get it  it sounds like you're trying to sell something  everyone's having this run or better all these games have been very predictable 

    I've been here for 10 years you dope. I have nothing to sell.

    EVERYONE is having these runs!!! Of course they are!! We are all winning all the time. I've heard it all. Really. EVERYONE Is having this run takes the cake.


     
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    I just saw he said that: OR BETTER!

    Everyone is hitting at 70%+ in the playoffs.

    But I won't stop there, OR BETTER.

    We're all doing it! That's why YOU'RE here clicking on threads looking for PICKS.

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    I just saw he said that: OR BETTER!

    Everyone is hitting at 70%+ in the playoffs.

    But I won't stop there, OR BETTER.

    We're all doing it! That's why YOU'RE here clicking on threads looking for PICKS.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:32 PM ET #10

    On spurs, good luck Scal 
    Intresting thoughts,  as always 
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    On spurs, good luck Scal 
    Intresting thoughts,  as always 
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:40 PM ET #11

    Always love your write ups! Keep it up Scal! 
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    Always love your write ups! Keep it up Scal! 
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:40 PM ET #12

    Good luck Scal i like the play I will be on it myself once the odds drop.
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    Good luck Scal i like the play I will be on it myself once the odds drop.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:42 PM ET #13

    THIS WHOLE SERIES HAS BEEN UNPREDICTABLE, I DON'T KNOW MAN
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    THIS WHOLE SERIES HAS BEEN UNPREDICTABLE, I DON'T KNOW MAN
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:46 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I've been here for 10 years you dope. I have nothing to sell.

    EVERYONE is having these runs!!! Of course they are!! We are all winning all the time. I've heard it all. Really. EVERYONE Is having this run takes the cake.




    You bet Toronto in an obvious gift game you Suck .

     And i know you're not selling anything so don't sound like a snake oil salesman with you're dumb headings  

    Next time in the heading maybe use hurry ! hurry ! hurry !    

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I've been here for 10 years you dope. I have nothing to sell.

    EVERYONE is having these runs!!! Of course they are!! We are all winning all the time. I've heard it all. Really. EVERYONE Is having this run takes the cake.




    You bet Toronto in an obvious gift game you Suck .

     And i know you're not selling anything so don't sound like a snake oil salesman with you're dumb headings  

    Next time in the heading maybe use hurry ! hurry ! hurry !    

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 11:47 PM ET #15

    Your tactical analysis does it for me on this one. 

    Taken it as a small play as i am a noob and dont trust houston not to have a huge game tomorrow going for the series. 

    But i do now expect to see Spurs match up well and potentially dominate them?!

    Feeling a fool with my Houston series bet, lets hope houston go big game 6 and 7
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    Your tactical analysis does it for me on this one. 

    Taken it as a small play as i am a noob and dont trust houston not to have a huge game tomorrow going for the series. 

    But i do now expect to see Spurs match up well and potentially dominate them?!

    Feeling a fool with my Houston series bet, lets hope houston go big game 6 and 7
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 12:01 AM ET #16

    Great write up as alwyas Scal, I agree and really think people might 
    underestimate just how big the Nene loss is after they played so well without him. 
     Let's get this 
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    Great write up as alwyas Scal, I agree and really think people might 
    underestimate just how big the Nene loss is after they played so well without him. 
     Let's get this 
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 12:01 AM ET #17

    Five reasons to take the rockets 

    1 Tony Parker - Sure he's old and washed up but is still a big draw 

    2 Faves and blow outs - have been the theme this month are you looking for a good tight game or possible upset with 6 nice insurance points this could be it 

    3 Coach of the year - Dantoni was screwed by this team a decade ago and will do anything for redemption 

    4 Entertainment - the best game of the year was a double overtime thriller between the Rockets and Warriors 

    5 Scal - he's due for a L 

    Just quickly thought of those I would love to see the Rockets advance but not so sure the league does as the Spurs vs Warriors is the bigger draw in the publics eyes auto rockets or wait for live 
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    Five reasons to take the rockets 

    1 Tony Parker - Sure he's old and washed up but is still a big draw 

    2 Faves and blow outs - have been the theme this month are you looking for a good tight game or possible upset with 6 nice insurance points this could be it 

    3 Coach of the year - Dantoni was screwed by this team a decade ago and will do anything for redemption 

    4 Entertainment - the best game of the year was a double overtime thriller between the Rockets and Warriors 

    5 Scal - he's due for a L 

    Just quickly thought of those I would love to see the Rockets advance but not so sure the league does as the Spurs vs Warriors is the bigger draw in the publics eyes auto rockets or wait for live 
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 12:06 AM ET #18

    Scal, You actually forgot the #1 reason for backing the Spurs!


    1) History (or what happened last year)

    Tue, May 10 (Game 5 of the second round)

    Spurs
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    Oklahoma City
    L95-91
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    Scal, You actually forgot the #1 reason for backing the Spurs!


    1) History (or what happened last year)

    Tue, May 10 (Game 5 of the second round)

    Spurs
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    L95-91
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 12:15 AM ET #19

    Wait for the refs dude
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 12:23 AM ET #21

    Will see how the Spurs adjust but I think the Rockets best chance is to have Ryan Anderson at the 5 because it makes it hard for the Spurs to guard them...GL Scal 
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    Will see how the Spurs adjust but I think the Rockets best chance is to have Ryan Anderson at the 5 because it makes it hard for the Spurs to guard them...GL Scal 
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 12:43 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by kent55:

    10 - 4  run  write up and pick whoopee !!! 

    I  don't get it  it sounds like you're trying to sell something  everyone's having this run or better all these games have been very predictable 
    You are a Fing idiot. People like you are bad news for this forum. What is your problem with Scal? He is not asking you for any donation. You make me sick . 
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    Quote Originally Posted by kent55:

    10 - 4  run  write up and pick whoopee !!! 

    I  don't get it  it sounds like you're trying to sell something  everyone's having this run or better all these games have been very predictable 
    You are a Fing idiot. People like you are bad news for this forum. What is your problem with Scal? He is not asking you for any donation. You make me sick . 
     
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    Good writeup & points Scal, but just don't see a way to pick this one ats with much confidence. Nene gone will be a factor but a 2nd gm w/o Parker will too. More simply, it just depends more on how the Rocks hit their 3's. They will get the looks (plus the penetration fouls/buckets) & if they hit 40% or more, they most likely win & if not, they probably don't. Almost impossible to predict & that's the Rockets in a nutshell....3's & layups/ft's plus how intense they are on D & in a gm 5, that should be there. Gonna layoff this 1 & just watch. Good luck 
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    Good writeup & points Scal, but just don't see a way to pick this one ats with much confidence. Nene gone will be a factor but a 2nd gm w/o Parker will too. More simply, it just depends more on how the Rocks hit their 3's. They will get the looks (plus the penetration fouls/buckets) & if they hit 40% or more, they most likely win & if not, they probably don't. Almost impossible to predict & that's the Rockets in a nutshell....3's & layups/ft's plus how intense they are on D & in a gm 5, that should be there. Gonna layoff this 1 & just watch. Good luck 
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 1:22 AM ET #24

    Absolutely love your writeups, keep them coming!
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    Absolutely love your writeups, keep them coming!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTD:

    Five reasons to take the rockets 1 Tony Parker - Sure he's old and washed up but is still a big draw 2 Faves and blow outs - have been the theme this month are you looking for a good tight game or possible upset with 6 nice insurance points this could be it 3 Coach of the year - Dantoni was screwed by this team a decade ago and will do anything for redemption 4 Entertainment - the best game of the year was a double overtime thriller between the Rockets and Warriors 5 Scal - he's due for a L Just quickly thought of those I would love to see the Rockets advance but not so sure the league does as the Spurs vs Warriors is the bigger draw in the publics eyes auto rockets or wait for live

    #3? Maybe I'm biased but if you'd rather have Dantoni over Popovich you're crazy. Popovich is GOAT. Always pulls together a great season even with having less powerful teams than some. Look up his statistics and credentials. Broke the record for most consecutive 50 win seasons this year with 18 straight. That's just one example. Not saying the Spurs will win this series with Parker being out but Popovich > Dantoni. Dantonis team this year lives or dies on the 3. Not a great way to live long term. Just my opinion.
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    Five reasons to take the rockets 1 Tony Parker - Sure he's old and washed up but is still a big draw 2 Faves and blow outs - have been the theme this month are you looking for a good tight game or possible upset with 6 nice insurance points this could be it 3 Coach of the year - Dantoni was screwed by this team a decade ago and will do anything for redemption 4 Entertainment - the best game of the year was a double overtime thriller between the Rockets and Warriors 5 Scal - he's due for a L Just quickly thought of those I would love to see the Rockets advance but not so sure the league does as the Spurs vs Warriors is the bigger draw in the publics eyes auto rockets or wait for live

    #3? Maybe I'm biased but if you'd rather have Dantoni over Popovich you're crazy. Popovich is GOAT. Always pulls together a great season even with having less powerful teams than some. Look up his statistics and credentials. Broke the record for most consecutive 50 win seasons this year with 18 straight. That's just one example. Not saying the Spurs will win this series with Parker being out but Popovich > Dantoni. Dantonis team this year lives or dies on the 3. Not a great way to live long term. Just my opinion.
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