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Lebron formed a team with a top 5 and top 15/20 player.

How much does the best talent ever in the nba need around him???

 
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Quote Originally Posted by 26championships:

Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7' titles...

  None?

 

 
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I hate when people compare Jordan to Lebron. But never mention that Lebron played without support with cavs while Jordan had support.

If Jordan was in his prime and was playing in this era of basketball. He won't be able to do what Lebron is doing. Now the game is tough. Players are smart. Defense is fuckin tight. Jordan did what he did and was suitable for that time now the game is changed and more tough. Jordan won't be able to pull it off in this era. He will be good not great.

Just like in hockey. Tell Gretzky to score 200 points. He won't even get 100 on big ass goalies small net and tight ass defense.

Jordan and Lebron both are KING of their own time. Comparing them is USELESS
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bet_gl:

I hate when people compare Jordan to Lebron. But never mention that Lebron played without support with cavs while Jordan had support.

If Jordan was in his prime and was playing in this era of basketball. He won't be able to do what Lebron is doing. Now the game is tough. Players are smart. Defense is fuckin tight. Jordan did what he did and was suitable for that time now the game is changed and more tough. Jordan won't be able to pull it off in this era. He will be good not great.

Just like in hockey. Tell Gretzky to score 200 points. He won't even get 100 on big ass goalies small net and tight ass defense.

Jordan and Lebron both are KING of their own time. Comparing them is USELESS

 

You just said basketball is harder now then when Jordan played

I now discredit anything else you ever say again...

The NBA is so tough, especially the East, that every year 4-5 teams make the playoffs with losing records

Wow, what a statement.  Basketball now is tougher

It isnt even basketball anymore.  Its street ball

 
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what's truly sad PACK is that LeBron hasn't learned that "social skill" yet You know all the GREAT players are trying to "coach him" how ro lead his team to be a champion but this grouyp of "ill fitting parts" better get it TOGETHER quick if they don't want to get TOTALLY embarassed by this YOUNG upstart Thunder squad. and to not have a really good COACH to guide them

I'm reallly starting to feel sorry for LBJ but.......creating ANY team without considering Team chemistry is as RECIPE for disaster Look at all the examples, Phil Eagles and Phillies, Cowgirls, Knicks, Yamks,  the list goes on for OWNERS buying high priced free agentsthat just DON'T fit together


 
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Wow, what a statement.  Basketball now is tougher

It isnt even basketball anymore.  Its street ball








This BEST DESCRIBES the HEATS current OFFENSIVE SETS



CAN NOT BELIEVE A TEAM THIS POORLY COACHED HAS EVER REACHED FINALS



I only bring this up because it is SO OBVIOUS!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

You mean the Rodman who scored about 4 points a game???

People make it seem like Jordan was surrounded by amazing players.  He had Pippen on offense, thats it. 

He was just so good at making everyone better around him.  Lebron doesnt do that



So only points matter? What about millions of rebounds this guy got for the team?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

 

You just said basketball is harder now then when Jordan played

I now discredit anything else you ever say again...

The NBA is so tough, especially the East, that every year 4-5 teams make the playoffs with losing records

Wow, what a statement.  Basketball now is tougher

It isnt even basketball anymore.  Its street ball



Bud you are on cheap drugs. If you think NBA was way tough back then you need to get your head checked. The guy fuckin scored 100 points for GOD Sake !!  WHat does losing record team making playoffs or finals have to do with nba being tough or not?

NBA ain't tough now??? Yeah you are right this is why we won't have a all time scorer leader coming from this era? right?

I'm done with you. Rodman a fuckin great re-bounder and you say he was no support for that team.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

 

Thats not setting goals...

People say Lebron "haters" are out of control, the Lebron "lovers" are just as bad.

Did you see how Miami introduced themselves???  I mean come on.  People wonder why so much "hate" is directed at this team.  Was that called for??  They had a circus and a parade.  They didnt even play a game.  Then mock the NBA and say they would win 8 rings, and all they need are those 3 players and be the best ever.

Reality check, they did this to themselves....


My sentiments exactly.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bet_gl:



Bud you are on cheap drugs. If you think NBA was way tough back then you need to get your head checked. The guy fuckin scored 100 points for GOD Sake !!  WHat does losing record team making playoffs or finals have to do with nba being tough or not?

NBA ain't tough now??? Yeah you are right this is why we won't have a all time scorer leader coming from this era? right?

I'm done with you. Rodman a fuckin great re-bounder and you say he was no support for that team.


Lebron is a great player and Rodman was a great rebounder but lets not forget Jordan had to play some great and very tuff Knick teams. I hated those Bull teams but Jordan always found a way to get those Rings!!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Iainsc2:

The fact of the matter is about LeBron 

Has he ever been on the news for any of the following 

Cheating on his wife with prostitutes 
Beating his girlfriend
Drugs or drinking 
violence


or for that matter any of the things that people like Tiger woods , Chris Brown , Charley Sheen ect ect ect get up to and are still loved by millions , i was shocked when tiger returned to the golf course to tee off after his return to golf after the news about his infidelity came to light only to be greeted by a standing ovation as if he had returned from a war as a national hero , its a joke Lebron gets so much hate , OTHER than how he handled leaving Cleveland , which might i add Carmelo , Howard ect ect are not much better and they get no stick , LeBron is a stand up guy , who goes out of his way on and off the court to be a role Model .

WOULD you rather have your kid say to you when he is young , daddy i want to be like Lebron james when i grow up ...... or daddy i want to beat women and fuck person like Tiger and Charley ....and yes yes we can joke about it , but in all fairness the guy is a good role model , it hasnt gone to his head to the point where he feels like he is invincible , i personally think he is pretty humble .

give him a break.


Not saying he isn't but you can't tell if he is a stand up guy or not through the media.  Remember guys like tiger woods had a squeaky clean image for most of his young career 13-15 years before anything negative came out about him.  Jordan didn't get bad press until he was done playing really.  Hard to tell based on the media.  save your judgment because you never know.  Don't believe everything you hear and read.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

It's not about his talent...if he stayed in Cleveland he definitely would not have as much haters.  The fact that he tried to take what he believes is the easy road to a Championship is what aggravates people, in my opinion.  They root against him because nobody respects people who take the easy route...similar to people who are feed with a silver spoon. And the celebrations of rings before the play one game is the icing on the cake.

He was already being disrespected in Cleveland.  It just got worse.  Not much talk about wade and bosh.    
 
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Only thing Lebron ever said wrong in the media light was probably after the finals last year when he said along the lines I get to be me and all you people have to go to work tomorrow lol.. clearly frustrated probably about losing but more about the hate that they were being given. 
 
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Well stated Pack--he brought it on himself. He is, by definition, a LOSER until he wins one title. Not eight--ONE. Until then--Loser.
 
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here we go already..... the refs won this series.. its a fix.. dont give any credit to Lebron and the heat
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:

Well stated Pack--he brought it on himself. He is, by definition, a LOSER until he wins one title. Not eight--ONE. Until then--Loser.


Hes going to be a winner!
 
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ONE. With the help of my main man Tony Brothers
 
 
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Most talented? No way.

Most athletically gifted? Maybe.

Talent includes making those around you better, which LJ doesnt do......Also, you cant take the "clutch" angle out of the equation at this level.....YOU HAVE TO BE CLUTCH TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS......Where was Lebron at the end of the game last night? On the bench cause his leg hurt.

You're a cool dude dagmen, but Lebron is about 50% of what he should be. No leadership or charisma. No reason he doesnt put up a triple double almost every night.....
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