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melossinglet

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:07 PM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

What makes you think I'm concerned with verifying anything? I told you, I don't mention what I do personally to brag, I only mention it to help sustain a point I'm making when talking about doing or not doing a certain thing in sports betting. I don't know how to wrap that around your head, but can you try to understand some of the things I say? PLEASE? -_-

If you can tell me some serious things about how to win in sports betting and you then claim to make a million dollars....how could I NOT believe you? Considering I have been in this business for years. However? If you're some degenerate talking about line movements and claim you make 1 million dollars, then it's obvious you're just blowing smoke....because I KNOW line movements, is not an effective enough angle to make a million dollars.

Am I getting to you or no? Understand what I'm trying to say? Or no?

dude,i understand perfectly wat you are writing,its just that it MAKES NO SENSE without the verification that you say youre not concerned with giving.......who gives a flying fu.k if a stranger comes in here saying "dont do this,dont do that,dont worry about this trend or that line move" if they will not explain why nor give any actual methods to instead use to be successful in this pursuit that almost all of us are failing at.

see,thats why you come across as having basically zero credibility...because it is hard to see wat purpose a guy who claims to be who you are has here...wat is your PURPOSE?????...because you sure as hell are dead-set against helping anyone....the rest of us are here to discuss games,gather information,get and give help in the fruitless pursuit of trying to get ahead in this crazy game,and perhaps most importantly beause we identify with each other and well,misery loves company and we're all miserable degenerates to one degree or another.

so none of these reasons apply to you,so why are you here???

if you cant come up with a valid reason you are by definition nothing more than a troll

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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

What makes you think I'm concerned with verifying anything? I told you, I don't mention what I do personally to brag, I only mention it to help sustain a point I'm making when talking about doing or not doing a certain thing in sports betting. I don't know how to wrap that around your head, but can you try to understand some of the things I say? PLEASE? -_-

If you can tell me some serious things about how to win in sports betting and you then claim to make a million dollars....how could I NOT believe you? Considering I have been in this business for years. However? If you're some degenerate talking about line movements and claim you make 1 million dollars, then it's obvious you're just blowing smoke....because I KNOW line movements, is not an effective enough angle to make a million dollars.

Am I getting to you or no? Understand what I'm trying to say? Or no?

dude,i understand perfectly wat you are writing,its just that it MAKES NO SENSE without the verification that you say youre not concerned with giving.......who gives a flying fu.k if a stranger comes in here saying "dont do this,dont do that,dont worry about this trend or that line move" if they will not explain why nor give any actual methods to instead use to be successful in this pursuit that almost all of us are failing at.

see,thats why you come across as having basically zero credibility...because it is hard to see wat purpose a guy who claims to be who you are has here...wat is your PURPOSE?????...because you sure as hell are dead-set against helping anyone....the rest of us are here to discuss games,gather information,get and give help in the fruitless pursuit of trying to get ahead in this crazy game,and perhaps most importantly beause we identify with each other and well,misery loves company and we're all miserable degenerates to one degree or another.

so none of these reasons apply to you,so why are you here???

if you cant come up with a valid reason you are by definition nothing more than a troll

melossinglet

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:10 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

Uh oh. More people crying about a sport they don't understand how to bet.

Meanwhile, some of us have beat this sports 9 years straight, going on 10 years....

cool story

....you and itsonnow1 should get together and have a stroking session..well done

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melossinglet

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:13 PM ET #53

Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

-_-

You do know success is subjective right?

Someone can view success just by finally being able to have a family, where as, another person can view success as being able to finally have the free time to live life the way they chose. Typically, money is a driving source of most types of success. You are taking the "money" part the wrong way it seems.

As far as being on this forum.....I don't see how you can't understand that me being on a forum is not a waste of my time. I am on this forum sometimes days in a row, then I don't post for weeks, or months. What difference does it make? Neither of those are indicators of how successful I am, or how much of my time is wasted.

Again man, you really are going to have to come up with some better material. It seems as though the only one who is "laughing at your jokes" is yourself. Not this "secret group of covers members" you suggested are 100% like minded with yourself.

Either way, this debate is pointless. Not saying it hasn't been interesting....I'm just moving onto something else. However? I will stand by the fact that the NBA can be beaten. Just not by everyone....especially not by MOST.

youll be back in this thread very shortly...like the rest of us,you got nothing better to do

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itsonnow1

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:14 PM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

dude,i understand perfectly wat you are writing,its just that it MAKES NO SENSE without the verification that you say youre not concerned with giving.......who gives a flying fu.k if a stranger comes in here saying "dont do this,dont do that,dont worry about this trend or that line move" if they will not explain why nor give any actual methods to instead use to be successful in this pursuit that almost all of us are failing at.

see,thats why you come across as having basically zero credibility...because it is hard to see wat purpose a guy who claims to be who you are has here...wat is your PURPOSE?????...because you sure as hell are dead-set against helping anyone....the rest of us are here to discuss games,gather information,get and give help in the fruitless pursuit of trying to get ahead in this crazy game,and perhaps most importantly beause we identify with each other and well,misery loves company and we're all miserable degenerates to one degree or another.

so none of these reasons apply to you,so why are you here???

if you cant come up with a valid reason you are by definition nothing more than a troll

Well, you spent so much time trying to take shots at me and skimming through my posts instead of paying attention to what I posted, word for word (I actually read every single post you've written in this debate we're having, word for word), you'd notice I said I have helped plenty of people here on this forum ....individually. And every now and then, when someone posts a ridiculous thread like this "Nba can't be beaten"....I respond to it.

And most times? I do explain what I'm saying. But I'm definitely not going to share my strategies here PUBLICLY....I've given winning picks to plenty of people here and helped them make money. What I'm not going to do, is create a thread here, posting my picks every day, talking about why I picked them, every day (I did have a small thread where I posted a few picks, but abandoned it). I'm not looking for followers, and I'm definitely not trying to go on a run so I can go tout, LOL. I'm just here sometimes and then not here. That's how I do. And I have more than enough free time to do so. :)

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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

dude,i understand perfectly wat you are writing,its just that it MAKES NO SENSE without the verification that you say youre not concerned with giving.......who gives a flying fu.k if a stranger comes in here saying "dont do this,dont do that,dont worry about this trend or that line move" if they will not explain why nor give any actual methods to instead use to be successful in this pursuit that almost all of us are failing at.

see,thats why you come across as having basically zero credibility...because it is hard to see wat purpose a guy who claims to be who you are has here...wat is your PURPOSE?????...because you sure as hell are dead-set against helping anyone....the rest of us are here to discuss games,gather information,get and give help in the fruitless pursuit of trying to get ahead in this crazy game,and perhaps most importantly beause we identify with each other and well,misery loves company and we're all miserable degenerates to one degree or another.

so none of these reasons apply to you,so why are you here???

if you cant come up with a valid reason you are by definition nothing more than a troll

Well, you spent so much time trying to take shots at me and skimming through my posts instead of paying attention to what I posted, word for word (I actually read every single post you've written in this debate we're having, word for word), you'd notice I said I have helped plenty of people here on this forum ....individually. And every now and then, when someone posts a ridiculous thread like this "Nba can't be beaten"....I respond to it.

And most times? I do explain what I'm saying. But I'm definitely not going to share my strategies here PUBLICLY....I've given winning picks to plenty of people here and helped them make money. What I'm not going to do, is create a thread here, posting my picks every day, talking about why I picked them, every day (I did have a small thread where I posted a few picks, but abandoned it). I'm not looking for followers, and I'm definitely not trying to go on a run so I can go tout, LOL. I'm just here sometimes and then not here. That's how I do. And I have more than enough free time to do so. :)

itsonnow1

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:16 PM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

cool story

....you and itsonnow1 should get together and have a stroking session..well done

So I'm him too right? -_-

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itsonnow1

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:18 PM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

youll be back in this thread very shortly...like the rest of us,you got nothing better to do

Nah, I was only talking about debating whether or not I am someone else.....that's just pointless.

I'm going to exit the other debate too. Both were fun. :)

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melossinglet

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:34 PM ET #57

Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

Well, you spent so much time trying to take shots at me and skimming through my posts instead of paying attention to what I posted, word for word (I actually read every single post you've written in this debate we're having, word for word), you'd notice I said I have helped plenty of people here on this forum ....individually. And every now and then, when someone posts a ridiculous thread like this "Nba can't be beaten"....I respond to it.

And most times? I do explain what I'm saying. But I'm definitely not going to share my strategies here PUBLICLY....I've given winning picks to plenty of people here and helped them make money. What I'm not going to do, is create a thread here, posting my picks every day, talking about why I picked them, every day (I did have a small thread where I posted a few picks, but abandoned it). I'm not looking for followers, and I'm definitely not trying to go on a run so I can go tout, LOL. I'm just here sometimes and then not here. That's how I do. And I have more than enough free time to do so. :)

yep,i read everything you said...helping a few people(which is yet to be verified of course,like all your other wondrous claims)individually over a short timespan doesnt really count for a whole lot altho it is commendable if you did that

so in summary the answer to your purpose in being here is because "thats how you do"??

cool,i think that tells anyone all they need to know.

im just gonna go ahead and assume youre one of us until proven otherwise....only a fool would take any other view.

just one question tho,how would you respond to sumone else posting wat you do without anything backing it up??...you would believe it,right??....you really blame sumone for being skeptical??

well,of course you will say you would believe it because its you thats pretending to be that guy so its essential that you perpetuate it.

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Trigg

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:41 PM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

Well, you spent so much time trying to take shots at me and skimming through my posts instead of paying attention to what I posted, word for word (I actually read every single post you've written in this debate we're having, word for word), you'd notice I said I have helped plenty of people here on this forum ....individually. And every now and then, when someone posts a ridiculous thread like this "Nba can't be beaten"....I respond to it.

And most times? I do explain what I'm saying. But I'm definitely not going to share my strategies here PUBLICLY....I've given winning picks to plenty of people here and helped them make money. What I'm not going to do, is create a thread here, posting my picks every day, talking about why I picked them, every day (I did have a small thread where I posted a few picks, but abandoned it). I'm not looking for followers, and I'm definitely not trying to go on a run so I can go tout, LOL. I'm just here sometimes and then not here. That's how I do. And I have more than enough free time to do so. :)

Why did you abandon your small thread?

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melossinglet

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:48 PM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by Trigg:

Why did you abandon your small thread?

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itsonnow1

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:49 PM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by Trigg:

Why did you abandon your small thread?

First no one was really paying attention (I understand why, I mean, I am new to the forum, so no big deal, lol) and the point of me starting it was to help people actually win money with a real winning method.

Second, a bunch of people that were losing, and couldn't find ways to win, pmed me, asking me to share my picks with them so they can win some money. So I decided to do that instead (which I still do)

Third, posting picks in a thread usually brings in too much negativity and people expect too much. Write ups, explanations (all of which is useless jibberish honestly)....and the last thing I want is people accusing me of trying to go tout if I go on a win streak, blah blah blah.

The forum is not mature enough for a thread with real winning picks long term. So I chose to help out certain people on an individual basis.

:)

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smartbets

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:58 PM ET #61

Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

cool story

....you and itsonnow1 should get together and have a stroking session..well done

get a clue. I've been documented here. Point is, the OP says betting NBA is a waste and I'm saying just cause you dont know how to bet a sport, doesn't mean it's a waste of time.

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melossinglet

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 3:03 PM ET #62

Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

First no one was really paying attention (I understand why, I mean, I am new to the forum, so no big deal, lol) and the point of me starting it was to help people actually win money with a real winning method.

Second, a bunch of people that were losing, and couldn't find ways to win, pmed me, asking me to share my picks with them so they can win some money. So I decided to do that instead (which I still do)

Third, posting picks in a thread usually brings in too much negativity and people expect too much. Write ups, explanations (all of which is useless jibberish honestly)....and the last thing I want is people accusing me of trying to go tout if I go on a win streak, blah blah blah.

The forum is not mature enough for a thread with real winning picks long term. So I chose to help out certain people on an individual basis.

:)

ummmm,earlier on you said you didnt want a following or attention so not sure why that would bother you...if you won consistently then you know with absolute certainty that you would gain a following,nothing is surer.

also how are you helping people "to fish" so to speak if you never explain anything about your methods and only give picks instead??...not that it matters much as all people really want here is a winner...but you say you tried to help others but giving sumthing on a platter will help only short term and then once you inevitably disappear or stop posting they are lost again.

the thing is,just about everyone in this place loses in nba so you are willing to help every single one of them if they pm you??or how is it decided to select the "special few"???

seems like it wold be a whole lot easier to just keep a thread than send out multiple messages to folks??

and as for negativity and expecting too much...well,thats total garbage if you can win like you say you have for a thousand years(or is it 20??or 15??)...you know very well that if you show profit week after week that every man and his dog will be in the thread licking your balls and bowing down.....its only wen sumone loses that the place turns feral...so i have no idea wat a champion like yourself is worried about on that front

wat "maturity"is needed for a winning thread??not sure wat that means...winning is received just fine around here,its only wen a losing streak appears that the stupid animals come out of their cages....and is it really so hard to ignore them??.....i mean its not as if you'll even be "wasting much time" reading others comments anyway,right??...given that you lead such a happy,rich,fulfilling life

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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:

First no one was really paying attention (I understand why, I mean, I am new to the forum, so no big deal, lol) and the point of me starting it was to help people actually win money with a real winning method.

Second, a bunch of people that were losing, and couldn't find ways to win, pmed me, asking me to share my picks with them so they can win some money. So I decided to do that instead (which I still do)

Third, posting picks in a thread usually brings in too much negativity and people expect too much. Write ups, explanations (all of which is useless jibberish honestly)....and the last thing I want is people accusing me of trying to go tout if I go on a win streak, blah blah blah.

The forum is not mature enough for a thread with real winning picks long term. So I chose to help out certain people on an individual basis.

:)

ummmm,earlier on you said you didnt want a following or attention so not sure why that would bother you...if you won consistently then you know with absolute certainty that you would gain a following,nothing is surer.

also how are you helping people "to fish" so to speak if you never explain anything about your methods and only give picks instead??...not that it matters much as all people really want here is a winner...but you say you tried to help others but giving sumthing on a platter will help only short term and then once you inevitably disappear or stop posting they are lost again.

the thing is,just about everyone in this place loses in nba so you are willing to help every single one of them if they pm you??or how is it decided to select the "special few"???

seems like it wold be a whole lot easier to just keep a thread than send out multiple messages to folks??

and as for negativity and expecting too much...well,thats total garbage if you can win like you say you have for a thousand years(or is it 20??or 15??)...you know very well that if you show profit week after week that every man and his dog will be in the thread licking your balls and bowing down.....its only wen sumone loses that the place turns feral...so i have no idea wat a champion like yourself is worried about on that front

wat "maturity"is needed for a winning thread??not sure wat that means...winning is received just fine around here,its only wen a losing streak appears that the stupid animals come out of their cages....and is it really so hard to ignore them??.....i mean its not as if you'll even be "wasting much time" reading others comments anyway,right??...given that you lead such a happy,rich,fulfilling life

itsonnow1

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Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 3:07 PM ET #63

Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

ummmm,earlier on you said you didnt want a following or attention so not sure why that would bother you...if you won consistently then you know with absolute certainty that you would gain a following,nothing is surer.

also how are you helping people "to fish" so to speak if you never explain anything about your methods and only give picks instead??...not that it matters much as all people really want here is a winner...but you say you tried to help others but giving sumthing on a platter will help only short term and then once you inevitably disappear or stop posting they are lost again.

the thing is,just about everyone in this place loses in nba so you are willing to help every single one of them if they pm you??or how is it decided to select the "special few"???

seems like it wold be a whole lot easier to just keep a thread than send out multiple messages to folks??

and as for negativity and expecting too much...well,thats total garbage if you can win like you say you have for a thousand years(or is it 20??or 15??)...you know very well that if you show profit week after week that every man and his dog will be in the thread licking your balls and bowing down.....its only wen sumone loses that the place turns feral...so i have no idea wat a champion like yourself is worried about on that front

wat "maturity"is needed for a winning thread??not sure wat that means...winning is received just fine around here,its only wen a losing streak appears that the stupid animals come out of their cages....and is it really so hard to ignore them??.....i mean its not as if you'll even be "wasting much time" reading others comments anyway,right??...given that you lead such a happy,rich,fulfilling life

Whatever your reasons are for disagreeing with my approach, I respect them. And in kind, I would appreciate it if you could at least respect my reasons for doing the things the way I have decided to do. :)

I have decided to only work with the people who pmed me individually, as I have worked with them one on one and appreciate them as people. Some people don't DESERVE the help. Period!

Best wishes to you!