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    Will race be a factor in how people bet the Mavs v Warriors series?

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    Posted: May. 16, 2022 - 5:27 PM ET #1

    Probably not a popular topic, and people will get upset with me just for asking, but I have seen teams or players overhyped because of their race and because black vs white sells tickets (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird anyone?).

    Don’t get me wrong, Luca is certainly a great player and deserves all the accolades, but I wonder how many fanboys who see themselves (or their face) in Luca will be lining up to place wagers on the Mavs just because…peace_5

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    Probably not a popular topic, and people will get upset with me just for asking, but I have seen teams or players overhyped because of their race and because black vs white sells tickets (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird anyone?).

    Don’t get me wrong, Luca is certainly a great player and deserves all the accolades, but I wonder how many fanboys who see themselves (or their face) in Luca will be lining up to place wagers on the Mavs just because…peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2022 - 5:34 PM ET #2

    Same amount of Fan boys betting on Klay Korver and a declining Curry thinking the Dynasty is back from 2015-2019peace_5

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    Same amount of Fan boys betting on Klay Korver and a declining Curry thinking the Dynasty is back from 2015-2019peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2022 - 5:43 PM ET #3

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     Whatever the situation be …?? #gomavs at least we know the sun fans will be betting against us!! Lmao 

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     Whatever the situation be …?? #gomavs at least we know the sun fans will be betting against us!! Lmao 

     
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    BB - is it confirmed that Gary Payton II will miss entire series? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Probably not a popular topic, and people will get upset with me just for asking, but I have seen teams or players overhyped because of their race and because black vs white sells tickets (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird anyone?). Don’t get me wrong, Luca is certainly a great player and deserves all the accolades, but I wonder how many fanboys who see themselves (or their face) in Luca will be lining up to place wagers on the Mavs just because…
    an_eek2 the only color people see is green 

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Probably not a popular topic, and people will get upset with me just for asking, but I have seen teams or players overhyped because of their race and because black vs white sells tickets (Magic Johnson and Larry Bird anyone?). Don’t get me wrong, Luca is certainly a great player and deserves all the accolades, but I wonder how many fanboys who see themselves (or their face) in Luca will be lining up to place wagers on the Mavs just because…
    an_eek2 the only color people see is green 

     
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    Why even start a thread like this?

    Couldn't you say every Luka game during the entire season fell under your bizarre race theory?

    This is a weak click baiting effort on your part...I bit but you'll only get one single click from me, I won't be coming back to see what filth this thread will become until it's moved to the PB an_shake

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    Why even start a thread like this?

    Couldn't you say every Luka game during the entire season fell under your bizarre race theory?

    This is a weak click baiting effort on your part...I bit but you'll only get one single click from me, I won't be coming back to see what filth this thread will become until it's moved to the PB an_shake

     
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    BB is the gasoline on a fire...Then he will cry Troll later when this thread explodes....He acts all innocent..those are the worse kind...an_shake

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    BB is the gasoline on a fire...Then he will cry Troll later when this thread explodes....He acts all innocent..those are the worse kind...an_shake

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2022 - 6:37 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Why even start a thread like this? Couldn't you say every Luka game during the entire season fell under your bizarre race theory? This is a weak click baiting effort on your part...I bit but you'll only get one single click from me, I won't be coming back to see what filth this thread will become until it's moved to the PB

    You cat like I’m responsible for bringing race into the conversation when the league itself recently named the East and West MVP award after a white player (Bird) and a black player (Magic) for very obvious reasons. If race sells tickets and grabs eyeballs don’t you think it will have a little effect on gambling? Instead you rather keep your head in the sand and shoot the messenger. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Why even start a thread like this? Couldn't you say every Luka game during the entire season fell under your bizarre race theory? This is a weak click baiting effort on your part...I bit but you'll only get one single click from me, I won't be coming back to see what filth this thread will become until it's moved to the PB

    You cat like I’m responsible for bringing race into the conversation when the league itself recently named the East and West MVP award after a white player (Bird) and a black player (Magic) for very obvious reasons. If race sells tickets and grabs eyeballs don’t you think it will have a little effect on gambling? Instead you rather keep your head in the sand and shoot the messenger. peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2022 - 6:46 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    BB - is it confirmed that Gary Payton II will miss entire series?

    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    BB - is it confirmed that Gary Payton II will miss entire series?

    Yes.

     
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     Does this remind you of Cincinnati Bengals versus KC chiefs? The next white superstar (comparing Joe Burrow to Luka) versus a super flashy offensive team (KC Chiefs to GSW).

    We will see in a few weeks

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     Does this remind you of Cincinnati Bengals versus KC chiefs? The next white superstar (comparing Joe Burrow to Luka) versus a super flashy offensive team (KC Chiefs to GSW).

    We will see in a few weeks

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    BB - is it confirmed that Gary Payton II will miss entire series?

    No. There is an outside chance he returns in a week. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    BB - is it confirmed that Gary Payton II will miss entire series?

    No. There is an outside chance he returns in a week. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:

    @begginerboy  Does this remind you of Cincinnati Bengals versus KC chiefs? The next white superstar (comparing Joe Burrow to Luka) versus a super flashy offensive team (KC Chiefs to GSW). We will see in a few weeks

    It reminds me of a lot of things. This series is going to make the NBA a lot of money. A lot more than Boston v Miami. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:

    @begginerboy  Does this remind you of Cincinnati Bengals versus KC chiefs? The next white superstar (comparing Joe Burrow to Luka) versus a super flashy offensive team (KC Chiefs to GSW). We will see in a few weeks

    It reminds me of a lot of things. This series is going to make the NBA a lot of money. A lot more than Boston v Miami. peace_5

     
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    The Bird & Magic rivalry is what today's NBA is built on...David Stern hit the lottery when both those franchises drafted two of the best players of all time to develop one of the most epic decade long rivalries in all of sport. 

    Before the Bird and Magic era, the NBA was a failing operation living on borrowed time and the owners were hanging on by a thread due to all the drugs, and low level corruption attempts (some successful some not)...the league would have folded by 1985 if there was no Bird and Magic.

    So, to name the MVPs after these two has absolutely nothing to do with race.

    We can agree to disagree if that suits you better, but I'm right and you're wrong on this specific issue.

    Doesn't matter what race you are in the NBA, if you perform and fill the Stat sheet night in night out and you are a relevant post season contributor by winning series, nobody cares if your white or black, or Asian (Linsantiy shout out...just imagine where Jeremy is now...broke next to Iverson on skid row begging for loose change an_cry)

    When Dirk won the title almost single-handedly, nobody cared or commented on him being white, and it was only briefly mentioned that he was arguably the best European to ever play in the NBA up until that time.

    I could go on and on about NBA and its true color blindness to talent and greatness, but it will probably fall on deaf ears.

    I'm sure many who will read this comment who remember the league pre Bird & Magic will nod in agreement with what I've written.

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    The Bird & Magic rivalry is what today's NBA is built on...David Stern hit the lottery when both those franchises drafted two of the best players of all time to develop one of the most epic decade long rivalries in all of sport. 

    Before the Bird and Magic era, the NBA was a failing operation living on borrowed time and the owners were hanging on by a thread due to all the drugs, and low level corruption attempts (some successful some not)...the league would have folded by 1985 if there was no Bird and Magic.

    So, to name the MVPs after these two has absolutely nothing to do with race.

    We can agree to disagree if that suits you better, but I'm right and you're wrong on this specific issue.

    Doesn't matter what race you are in the NBA, if you perform and fill the Stat sheet night in night out and you are a relevant post season contributor by winning series, nobody cares if your white or black, or Asian (Linsantiy shout out...just imagine where Jeremy is now...broke next to Iverson on skid row begging for loose change an_cry)

    When Dirk won the title almost single-handedly, nobody cared or commented on him being white, and it was only briefly mentioned that he was arguably the best European to ever play in the NBA up until that time.

    I could go on and on about NBA and its true color blindness to talent and greatness, but it will probably fall on deaf ears.

    I'm sure many who will read this comment who remember the league pre Bird & Magic will nod in agreement with what I've written.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    @begginerboy The Bird & Magic rivalry is what today's NBA is built on...David Stern hit the lottery when both those franchises drafted two of the best players of all time to develop one of the most epic decade long rivalries in all of sport.  Before the Bird and Magic era, the NBA was a failing operation living on borrowed time and the owners were hanging on by a thread due to all the drugs, and low level corruption attempts (some successful some not)...the league would have folded by 1985 if there was no Bird and Magic. So, to name the MVPs after these two has absolutely nothing to do with race. We can agree to disagree if that suits you better, but I'm right and you're wrong on this specific issue. Doesn't matter what race you are in the NBA, if you perform and fill the Stat sheet night in night out and you are a relevant post season contributor by winning series, nobody cares if your white or black, or Asian (Linsantiy shout out...just imagine where Jeremy is now...broke next to Iverson on skid row begging for loose change ) When Dirk won the title almost single-handedly, nobody cared or commented on him being white, and it was only briefly mentioned that he was arguably the best European to ever play in the NBA up until that time. I could go on and on about NBA and its true color blindness to talent and greatness, but it will probably fall on deaf ears. I'm sure many who will read this comment who remember the league pre Bird & Magic will nod in agreement with what I've written.

    I have watched countless Bird/Magic documentaries and in every single one race is a topic. It was a topic then, when they sold the rivalry as great white player vs great black player (believe me, I was around for it and read those old Spots Illustrated articles), and it is a topic now. You simply reveal your ignorance by claiming otherwise. Sorry, but that’s the truth, and it is well documented. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    @begginerboy The Bird & Magic rivalry is what today's NBA is built on...David Stern hit the lottery when both those franchises drafted two of the best players of all time to develop one of the most epic decade long rivalries in all of sport.  Before the Bird and Magic era, the NBA was a failing operation living on borrowed time and the owners were hanging on by a thread due to all the drugs, and low level corruption attempts (some successful some not)...the league would have folded by 1985 if there was no Bird and Magic. So, to name the MVPs after these two has absolutely nothing to do with race. We can agree to disagree if that suits you better, but I'm right and you're wrong on this specific issue. Doesn't matter what race you are in the NBA, if you perform and fill the Stat sheet night in night out and you are a relevant post season contributor by winning series, nobody cares if your white or black, or Asian (Linsantiy shout out...just imagine where Jeremy is now...broke next to Iverson on skid row begging for loose change ) When Dirk won the title almost single-handedly, nobody cared or commented on him being white, and it was only briefly mentioned that he was arguably the best European to ever play in the NBA up until that time. I could go on and on about NBA and its true color blindness to talent and greatness, but it will probably fall on deaf ears. I'm sure many who will read this comment who remember the league pre Bird & Magic will nod in agreement with what I've written.

    I have watched countless Bird/Magic documentaries and in every single one race is a topic. It was a topic then, when they sold the rivalry as great white player vs great black player (believe me, I was around for it and read those old Spots Illustrated articles), and it is a topic now. You simply reveal your ignorance by claiming otherwise. Sorry, but that’s the truth, and it is well documented. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: @begginerboy The Bird & Magic rivalry is what today's NBA is built on...David Stern hit the lottery when both those franchises drafted two of the best players of all time to develop one of the most epic decade long rivalries in all of sport.  Before the Bird and Magic era, the NBA was a failing operation living on borrowed time and the owners were hanging on by a thread due to all the drugs, and low level corruption attempts (some successful some not)...the league would have folded by 1985 if there was no Bird and Magic. So, to name the MVPs after these two has absolutely nothing to do with race. We can agree to disagree if that suits you better, but I'm right and you're wrong on this specific issue. Doesn't matter what race you are in the NBA, if you perform and fill the Stat sheet night in night out and you are a relevant post season contributor by winning series, nobody cares if your white or black, or Asian (Linsantiy shout out...just imagine where Jeremy is now...broke next to Iverson on skid row begging for loose change ) When Dirk won the title almost single-handedly, nobody cared or commented on him being white, and it was only briefly mentioned that he was arguably the best European to ever play in the NBA up until that time. I could go on and on about NBA and its true color blindness to talent and greatness, but it will probably fall on deaf ears. I'm sure many who will read this comment who remember the league pre Bird & Magic will nod in agreement with what I've written. I have watched countless Bird/Magic documentaries and in every single one race is a topic. It was a topic then, when they sold the rivalry as great white player vs great black player (believe me, I was around for it and read those old Spots Illustrated articles), and it is a topic now. You simply reveal your ignorance by claiming otherwise. Sorry, but that’s the truth, and it is well documented.

    If it's well documented that it's a topic now then where is the documentation? Don't get me wrong I'm sure you can find some articles buried somewhere on the Athletic, written by some hack with a journalism degree from some liberal arts college who doesn't even like sports, so they foment drama. No real fans give a shit. Joker just won his second MVP, you don't hear his race brought up. Luka has emerged as one of the best young players in the league and he's only a kid. You don't hear his race talked about.

    As I've said many times before, you enjoy soap opera storylines more than actual sports. I call this out yesterday, you call me a troll, then today you create this thread.

    This is a website for people that fancy themselves handicappers. I don't think race will factor in any of our wagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: @begginerboy The Bird & Magic rivalry is what today's NBA is built on...David Stern hit the lottery when both those franchises drafted two of the best players of all time to develop one of the most epic decade long rivalries in all of sport.  Before the Bird and Magic era, the NBA was a failing operation living on borrowed time and the owners were hanging on by a thread due to all the drugs, and low level corruption attempts (some successful some not)...the league would have folded by 1985 if there was no Bird and Magic. So, to name the MVPs after these two has absolutely nothing to do with race. We can agree to disagree if that suits you better, but I'm right and you're wrong on this specific issue. Doesn't matter what race you are in the NBA, if you perform and fill the Stat sheet night in night out and you are a relevant post season contributor by winning series, nobody cares if your white or black, or Asian (Linsantiy shout out...just imagine where Jeremy is now...broke next to Iverson on skid row begging for loose change ) When Dirk won the title almost single-handedly, nobody cared or commented on him being white, and it was only briefly mentioned that he was arguably the best European to ever play in the NBA up until that time. I could go on and on about NBA and its true color blindness to talent and greatness, but it will probably fall on deaf ears. I'm sure many who will read this comment who remember the league pre Bird & Magic will nod in agreement with what I've written. I have watched countless Bird/Magic documentaries and in every single one race is a topic. It was a topic then, when they sold the rivalry as great white player vs great black player (believe me, I was around for it and read those old Spots Illustrated articles), and it is a topic now. You simply reveal your ignorance by claiming otherwise. Sorry, but that’s the truth, and it is well documented.

    If it's well documented that it's a topic now then where is the documentation? Don't get me wrong I'm sure you can find some articles buried somewhere on the Athletic, written by some hack with a journalism degree from some liberal arts college who doesn't even like sports, so they foment drama. No real fans give a shit. Joker just won his second MVP, you don't hear his race brought up. Luka has emerged as one of the best young players in the league and he's only a kid. You don't hear his race talked about.

    As I've said many times before, you enjoy soap opera storylines more than actual sports. I call this out yesterday, you call me a troll, then today you create this thread.

    This is a website for people that fancy themselves handicappers. I don't think race will factor in any of our wagers.

     
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    Are we politicizing the Sport again and with racism added in the equation wtf! sleep2

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    Are we politicizing the Sport again and with racism added in the equation wtf! sleep2

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     That’s the stupidest comment on this board and no one should respond.  I am dumber for reading this assinine comment.  Bunch of morons on this site!!

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     That’s the stupidest comment on this board and no one should respond.  I am dumber for reading this assinine comment.  Bunch of morons on this site!!

     
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    @StumpTownStu peace_5

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    lol God you Americans are racist an_roll_laugh

    Absolutely no shot at getting this corrected in the next 100 years or more.

     

    White people are going to be betting on Luka Doncic an_roll_laugh

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    lol God you Americans are racist an_roll_laugh

    Absolutely no shot at getting this corrected in the next 100 years or more.

     

    White people are going to be betting on Luka Doncic an_roll_laugh

     
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    I am merely asking a question about the elephant in the room, Bobby fuckface, not condoning it. If race affects viewership and interest level why wouldn’t it affect the gambler’s who watch this shit? The very people who root for these teams and players also bet on them, or don’t you know?! peace_5


    An article from 2020, written by a black professor: 


    The NBA has found its ‘Great White Hope’ — but it’s 6 months too late

    During an ESPN interview in 2004, interviewer Jim Gray asked Larry Bird, arguably the best White player in NBA history, if the league needed more White players.

    “I think it’s good for a fan base because, as we all know, the majority of the fans are White America. And if you just had a couple of White guys in there, you might get them a little excited. But it is a Black man’s game, and it will be forever,” he replied.

    Bird wasn’t saying anything that 99% of NBA ownership and then NBA commissioner David Stern hadn’t been saying under their breath for years. The National Basketball Association has spent 30 years looking for its Great White Hope. A White player with that rare combination of championship mettle, ESPN highlight level play and off-court charisma, that will supposedly lure White fans back to a league that is dominated by Black players and culture.

    The renaissance of the NBA in the 80s was due to the racial proxy battle between charming, good looking and unmistakably Black Magic Johnson of the glitzy Showtime Los Angeles Lakers vs. the lanky, tousled hair, Indiana born White Larry Birdof the blue-collar Boston Celtics. The thinly veiled symbolism of these two icons battling it out on the court was lost on nobody. Black folks rode with the Lakers religiously, and Boston Sports radio in the ’80s during NBA season was indistinguishable from a Trump rally today.

    However, after a couple of championships, when Larry Bird finally hung up his basketball shoes after the 1992 season it would be nearly 30 years before the NBA had another, let alone several, legitimate White superstars.

    Why does it matter if the NBA has White Superstars? It shouldn’t, but like everything else in America the White man’s ice water is colder, and the almost exclusively White NBA team owners, and majority-White male-dominated sports commentariat, believes that the league’s Blackness is a turnoff to White fans and their money. This isn’t cynical speculation.

    Former Atlanta Hawks owner Bruce Levinson in 2012 emailed team executives to complain that the Hawks’ financial struggles were due to Black cheerleaders, too many Black folks on the Kiss-Cam, and hip-hop music scaring White fans away from games. It apparently never occurred to him that putting a lousy team on the court might’ve played a role too. Even White basketball fans who are supposedly steeped in Black hip-hop culture are still desperate for a White Avatar on the court.

    You can read the rest here, or you can choose to remain ignorant idiots. peace_5

    https://news.yahoo.com/nba-found-great-white-hope-174242509.html

     

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    I am merely asking a question about the elephant in the room, Bobby fuckface, not condoning it. If race affects viewership and interest level why wouldn’t it affect the gambler’s who watch this shit? The very people who root for these teams and players also bet on them, or don’t you know?! peace_5


    An article from 2020, written by a black professor: 


    The NBA has found its ‘Great White Hope’ — but it’s 6 months too late

    During an ESPN interview in 2004, interviewer Jim Gray asked Larry Bird, arguably the best White player in NBA history, if the league needed more White players.

    “I think it’s good for a fan base because, as we all know, the majority of the fans are White America. And if you just had a couple of White guys in there, you might get them a little excited. But it is a Black man’s game, and it will be forever,” he replied.

    Bird wasn’t saying anything that 99% of NBA ownership and then NBA commissioner David Stern hadn’t been saying under their breath for years. The National Basketball Association has spent 30 years looking for its Great White Hope. A White player with that rare combination of championship mettle, ESPN highlight level play and off-court charisma, that will supposedly lure White fans back to a league that is dominated by Black players and culture.

    The renaissance of the NBA in the 80s was due to the racial proxy battle between charming, good looking and unmistakably Black Magic Johnson of the glitzy Showtime Los Angeles Lakers vs. the lanky, tousled hair, Indiana born White Larry Birdof the blue-collar Boston Celtics. The thinly veiled symbolism of these two icons battling it out on the court was lost on nobody. Black folks rode with the Lakers religiously, and Boston Sports radio in the ’80s during NBA season was indistinguishable from a Trump rally today.

    However, after a couple of championships, when Larry Bird finally hung up his basketball shoes after the 1992 season it would be nearly 30 years before the NBA had another, let alone several, legitimate White superstars.

    Why does it matter if the NBA has White Superstars? It shouldn’t, but like everything else in America the White man’s ice water is colder, and the almost exclusively White NBA team owners, and majority-White male-dominated sports commentariat, believes that the league’s Blackness is a turnoff to White fans and their money. This isn’t cynical speculation.

    Former Atlanta Hawks owner Bruce Levinson in 2012 emailed team executives to complain that the Hawks’ financial struggles were due to Black cheerleaders, too many Black folks on the Kiss-Cam, and hip-hop music scaring White fans away from games. It apparently never occurred to him that putting a lousy team on the court might’ve played a role too. Even White basketball fans who are supposedly steeped in Black hip-hop culture are still desperate for a White Avatar on the court.

    You can read the rest here, or you can choose to remain ignorant idiots. peace_5

    https://news.yahoo.com/nba-found-great-white-hope-174242509.html

     

     
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    Ever notice how when someone disagrees with BB, he gets his panties in bunch and starts hurling insults? His meltdowns are getting Scal level epic. He's Jim Gray, well known shit starter provocateur, interviewing Larry Bird damn near 20 years ago.

    As I've said many times, you don't even like sports. You like the soap operas that sometimes surround sports. Whatever. Do you.

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    Ever notice how when someone disagrees with BB, he gets his panties in bunch and starts hurling insults? His meltdowns are getting Scal level epic. He's Jim Gray, well known shit starter provocateur, interviewing Larry Bird damn near 20 years ago.

    As I've said many times, you don't even like sports. You like the soap operas that sometimes surround sports. Whatever. Do you.

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