Ironic: The Jets were a stupid timeout call away from forcing OT at Lambeau last season with Geno Smith and no secondary.
Let the Cardinals beat one single playoff contender please. I would take the Jets anytime against them. They were losing by 10 at CLE before Haden and Whitner went down. They led 10-6 against Vick and then lost against Landry Jones. Winning against subpar teams doesnt qualify for beating the Jets. SF, DET, CHI, CLE, NO, BAL have a combined record of like 13-34 ?! They will
get pounded by the Hawks.
The Giants aren't a good team IMO. They scored 7 points against a good Eagles defense! They struggled to move the ball against the new look Cowboys defense. No way they move the ball against the Jets on several drives.
although my initial statement had no reference to the Giants being a great team, I do believe they would be the Jets.
Suuma, you can't just take a small sample size of say....Giants scored 7 on the Eagles....and say their offense cannot move the ball. I bet you weren't thinking that after the first drive of that game.
Sure they are streaky and can lose rhythm and look bad. But they can also be on and light it up against anyone.
As for the Cardinals, we will just have to wait and see. Personally, I think they are a top 4 team and very dangerous at home. 3 good wide outs, 3 good results, and a good QB. Solid defence
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
Ironic: The Jets were a stupid timeout call away from forcing OT at Lambeau last season with Geno Smith and no secondary.
Let the Cardinals beat one single playoff contender please. I would take the Jets anytime against them. They were losing by 10 at CLE before Haden and Whitner went down. They led 10-6 against Vick and then lost against Landry Jones. Winning against subpar teams doesnt qualify for beating the Jets. SF, DET, CHI, CLE, NO, BAL have a combined record of like 13-34 ?! They will
get pounded by the Hawks.
The Giants aren't a good team IMO. They scored 7 points against a good Eagles defense! They struggled to move the ball against the new look Cowboys defense. No way they move the ball against the Jets on several drives.
although my initial statement had no reference to the Giants being a great team, I do believe they would be the Jets.
Suuma, you can't just take a small sample size of say....Giants scored 7 on the Eagles....and say their offense cannot move the ball. I bet you weren't thinking that after the first drive of that game.
Sure they are streaky and can lose rhythm and look bad. But they can also be on and light it up against anyone.
As for the Cardinals, we will just have to wait and see. Personally, I think they are a top 4 team and very dangerous at home. 3 good wide outs, 3 good results, and a good QB. Solid defence
although my initial statement had no reference to the Giants being a great team, I do believe they would be the Jets.
Suuma, you can't just take a small sample size of say....Giants scored 7 on the Eagles....and say their offense cannot move the ball. I bet you weren't thinking that after the first drive of that game.
Sure they are streaky and can lose rhythm and look bad. But they can also be on and light it up against anyone.
As for the Cardinals, we will just have to wait and see. Personally, I think they are a top 4 team and very dangerous at home. 3 good wide outs, 3 good results, and a good QB. Solid defence
the giants are not in the same league as the jets.
Better WRS? JETS
better DEF? JETS
better O-LINE? JETS (least sacks. only 7 given up this season. #1 in the NFL)
better RB? JETS
better QB NYG (and he sucks. having a good season though.)
home, nuetral. jets win easy.
im just assuming you are a NYG fan because of the picture.
me you and suuma are some of the top NFL cappers on here. but im sorry man. you are plain out wrong about this JETS team.
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Quote Originally Posted by St2ee:
although my initial statement had no reference to the Giants being a great team, I do believe they would be the Jets.
Suuma, you can't just take a small sample size of say....Giants scored 7 on the Eagles....and say their offense cannot move the ball. I bet you weren't thinking that after the first drive of that game.
Sure they are streaky and can lose rhythm and look bad. But they can also be on and light it up against anyone.
As for the Cardinals, we will just have to wait and see. Personally, I think they are a top 4 team and very dangerous at home. 3 good wide outs, 3 good results, and a good QB. Solid defence
the giants are not in the same league as the jets.
Better WRS? JETS
better DEF? JETS
better O-LINE? JETS (least sacks. only 7 given up this season. #1 in the NFL)
better RB? JETS
better QB NYG (and he sucks. having a good season though.)
home, nuetral. jets win easy.
im just assuming you are a NYG fan because of the picture.
me you and suuma are some of the top NFL cappers on here. but im sorry man. you are plain out wrong about this JETS team.
Look, don't get me wrong. I appreciate your comments by the way.
I like some of the things the Jets have been doing this year, and obviously there defence is what fuels this team. The offense can run the ball, no doubt. What I am trying to say is that with Fitzpatrick not playing, they are not a top 7 team. Probly not even close.
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Look, don't get me wrong. I appreciate your comments by the way.
I like some of the things the Jets have been doing this year, and obviously there defence is what fuels this team. The offense can run the ball, no doubt. What I am trying to say is that with Fitzpatrick not playing, they are not a top 7 team. Probly not even close.
i 100% disagree that NYG have better recievers. not even close in my opinion.,
decker vs randle.
decker no doubt. cant even debate that one.
decker on pace for a way better season. (and hes played two less
games.)
decker better overall by far. randle never topped 7 tds in a season or 1000 yards.
decker has the sames TDS in one season, then randle does in his career.
ODBJ vs marshall
marshal more yards (one less game.)
ODBJ more TDS (caught 3 last game vs a NO defense that cant
cover for their lifes)
marshall racked 7 consecutive 1000+ yard seasons in a row. while ODBJ is still proving himself
in the long run? Odell will be better because he is way way younger.
who would you rather have for a season? jets two WRs any day of the week.
your opinion is very biased towards your favorite team.
And your really biased towards your Jets!!!! My god man. No one who knows anything about football would take Marshall, who is a head case by the way, over Beckham......who is not still proving himself!!! He is regarded as top 3 WR in the NFL Today!!!! Wake up man.
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Quote Originally Posted by ALTABLOCK:
fitz is starting vs jax btw.
i 100% disagree that NYG have better recievers. not even close in my opinion.,
decker vs randle.
decker no doubt. cant even debate that one.
decker on pace for a way better season. (and hes played two less
games.)
decker better overall by far. randle never topped 7 tds in a season or 1000 yards.
decker has the sames TDS in one season, then randle does in his career.
ODBJ vs marshall
marshal more yards (one less game.)
ODBJ more TDS (caught 3 last game vs a NO defense that cant
cover for their lifes)
marshall racked 7 consecutive 1000+ yard seasons in a row. while ODBJ is still proving himself
in the long run? Odell will be better because he is way way younger.
who would you rather have for a season? jets two WRs any day of the week.
your opinion is very biased towards your favorite team.
And your really biased towards your Jets!!!! My god man. No one who knows anything about football would take Marshall, who is a head case by the way, over Beckham......who is not still proving himself!!! He is regarded as top 3 WR in the NFL Today!!!! Wake up man.
We can debate ODB/Marshall, but there is no way I would take ODB/Randle over Marshall/Decker, no way. Marshall is 5 inches taller than ODB, he can make plays just with his height. In current shape, I would probably prefer Marshall.
I like the debate though, will have more thoughts on Jets/Giants comparison when I am back home.
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We can debate ODB/Marshall, but there is no way I would take ODB/Randle over Marshall/Decker, no way. Marshall is 5 inches taller than ODB, he can make plays just with his height. In current shape, I would probably prefer Marshall.
I like the debate though, will have more thoughts on Jets/Giants comparison when I am back home.
it surprises me that people are more intent on pointing out patriots faults than looking at wat they do well....and wat they do well is win all day every day...i take all of the "expert" opinion as gospel in pointing out their flaws,either on defense or consistently running the ball,or receivers or watever it may be.....but they just keep on winning DESPITE all of that..and really,which team doesnt have flaws??(none obviously)......i understand there is widespread hate for this organisation but we shud leave biases at the door here,no??
im not a fan of the patriots in any way,shape or form...dont even watch gridiron but just pointing out wat im observing.
they actually remind me of the miami heat during their title run who had serious,glaring flaws in rebounding the ball,size and overall depth but the strengths out-weighed anything you cud point out....basketball fans mite be able to identify with this.
so,do the patriots really have greater weaknesses than anyone you all wud place above them??
and are these lists purely regular season based??or on playoff/superbowl winning potential??..obviously 2 different animals.
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it surprises me that people are more intent on pointing out patriots faults than looking at wat they do well....and wat they do well is win all day every day...i take all of the "expert" opinion as gospel in pointing out their flaws,either on defense or consistently running the ball,or receivers or watever it may be.....but they just keep on winning DESPITE all of that..and really,which team doesnt have flaws??(none obviously)......i understand there is widespread hate for this organisation but we shud leave biases at the door here,no??
im not a fan of the patriots in any way,shape or form...dont even watch gridiron but just pointing out wat im observing.
they actually remind me of the miami heat during their title run who had serious,glaring flaws in rebounding the ball,size and overall depth but the strengths out-weighed anything you cud point out....basketball fans mite be able to identify with this.
so,do the patriots really have greater weaknesses than anyone you all wud place above them??
and are these lists purely regular season based??or on playoff/superbowl winning potential??..obviously 2 different animals.
You can say the Giants are barring injuries like Victor Cruz, but so are the Jets. Devin Smith made 3 games thus far. Against the Eagles, Chris Ivory and Eric Decker didn't play, against the Raiders Nick Mangold didn't play and Geno Smith was at QB. Against the Patriots the Jets had a 20-16 lead and Skrine, Pryor and Richardson went down.
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Jets/Giants - let's take a look at the facts after both teams have played 7+ games:
You can say the Giants are barring injuries like Victor Cruz, but so are the Jets. Devin Smith made 3 games thus far. Against the Eagles, Chris Ivory and Eric Decker didn't play, against the Raiders Nick Mangold didn't play and Geno Smith was at QB. Against the Patriots the Jets had a 20-16 lead and Skrine, Pryor and Richardson went down.
1. Patriots until someone figures out how to slow this offense down with home field in playoffs could be a repeat
2 Denver. This defense is nasty but I question whether these aging vets that are playing well will be able to keep the pace up thru the whole season
3 packers this is a well balanced team and will be in the championship game This is a team that beats the teams they should but will have to step it up a notch in the playoff With Rodgers it's a tough team to leave out after one tough loss
4 Carolina. Old school football!!! Still need a reciever to compliment this offense and keep safety's honest Like what cam brings to the table and the two bruisers they have at rb. Weakness coaching staff
5 Arizona Being a Steeler fan I can tell you that Bruce Arians is the real deal well respected but weaknes his throw down the field approach will get Palmer hurt by week 10. Will struggle against a tough pass rush. Hence Pitt Rams losses.
6 giants. This team will improve as the year goes on always a second half team but like my steelers hit with bad luck but will take the NFc east solid coaching clutch QB and this defense will get better they are young
7 cincy I don't care what there record is this team has yet to face a intact solid offense and have been sparred the injuries thus far. Add that to the fact red stinks in the clutch and they will be a early exit in the post season
Jets are solid but no QB to carry them when needed. Fitz is garage and won't be there come playoffs due to injury
Pitt solid but banged up had big hopes this year but with bell out this team will struggle to run. Defense is improved and I can see them and jets as the wildcats
Raiders improving and del rio has then playing hard but Carr goes out pack it in add that to this horrible defense Maybe next year.
Colts garage billion dollar QB and worst o-line in football stupid poor managed organization sign bunch of old vets but let's not protect the QB.
Nice thread good to hear opinions of others. Bol gents
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1. Patriots until someone figures out how to slow this offense down with home field in playoffs could be a repeat
2 Denver. This defense is nasty but I question whether these aging vets that are playing well will be able to keep the pace up thru the whole season
3 packers this is a well balanced team and will be in the championship game This is a team that beats the teams they should but will have to step it up a notch in the playoff With Rodgers it's a tough team to leave out after one tough loss
4 Carolina. Old school football!!! Still need a reciever to compliment this offense and keep safety's honest Like what cam brings to the table and the two bruisers they have at rb. Weakness coaching staff
5 Arizona Being a Steeler fan I can tell you that Bruce Arians is the real deal well respected but weaknes his throw down the field approach will get Palmer hurt by week 10. Will struggle against a tough pass rush. Hence Pitt Rams losses.
6 giants. This team will improve as the year goes on always a second half team but like my steelers hit with bad luck but will take the NFc east solid coaching clutch QB and this defense will get better they are young
7 cincy I don't care what there record is this team has yet to face a intact solid offense and have been sparred the injuries thus far. Add that to the fact red stinks in the clutch and they will be a early exit in the post season
Jets are solid but no QB to carry them when needed. Fitz is garage and won't be there come playoffs due to injury
Pitt solid but banged up had big hopes this year but with bell out this team will struggle to run. Defense is improved and I can see them and jets as the wildcats
Raiders improving and del rio has then playing hard but Carr goes out pack it in add that to this horrible defense Maybe next year.
Colts garage billion dollar QB and worst o-line in football stupid poor managed organization sign bunch of old vets but let's not protect the QB.
Nice thread good to hear opinions of others. Bol gents
fitz is starting vs jax btw.i 100% disagree that NYG have better recievers. not even close in my opinion.,decker vs randle.decker no doubt. cant even debate that one.decker on pace for a way better season. (and hes played two less games.)decker better overall by far. randle never topped 7 tds in a season or 1000 yards.decker has the sames TDS in one season, then randle does in his career.ODBJ vs marshallmarshal more yards (one less game.)ODBJ more TDS (caught 3 last game vs a NO defense that cant cover for their lifes)marshall racked 7 consecutive 1000+ yard seasons in a row. while ODBJ is still proving himselfin the long run? Odell will be better because he is way way younger.who would you rather have for a season? jets two WRs any day of the week.your opinion is very biased towards your favorite team.
And your really biased towards your Jets!!!! My god man. No one who knows anything about football would take Marshall, who is a head case by the way, over Beckham......who is not still proving himself!!! He is regarded as top 3 WR in the NFL Today!!!! Wake up man.
I have no favorite team. Never have, never will. Whoever is on my ticket is who I'm rooting for.
Plain and simple jets over Giants in nearly every category. It's not even close. Suuma proved it
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Quote Originally Posted by St2ee:
Quote Originally Posted by ALTABLOCK:
fitz is starting vs jax btw.i 100% disagree that NYG have better recievers. not even close in my opinion.,decker vs randle.decker no doubt. cant even debate that one.decker on pace for a way better season. (and hes played two less games.)decker better overall by far. randle never topped 7 tds in a season or 1000 yards.decker has the sames TDS in one season, then randle does in his career.ODBJ vs marshallmarshal more yards (one less game.)ODBJ more TDS (caught 3 last game vs a NO defense that cant cover for their lifes)marshall racked 7 consecutive 1000+ yard seasons in a row. while ODBJ is still proving himselfin the long run? Odell will be better because he is way way younger.who would you rather have for a season? jets two WRs any day of the week.your opinion is very biased towards your favorite team.
And your really biased towards your Jets!!!! My god man. No one who knows anything about football would take Marshall, who is a head case by the way, over Beckham......who is not still proving himself!!! He is regarded as top 3 WR in the NFL Today!!!! Wake up man.
I have no favorite team. Never have, never will. Whoever is on my ticket is who I'm rooting for.
Plain and simple jets over Giants in nearly every category. It's not even close. Suuma proved it
Plain and simple jets over Giants in nearly every category. It's not even close. Suuma proved it
Hahahahahahahah Suuma proved it???? What by citing a bunch of stats and DVOA numbers???? You cannot compare apples to oranges and you cannot compare football teams any way other than playing a GAME! Pretty sure the Giants proved that in 2 Super bowl wins as heavy dogs against the undefeayed Pats!
Giants are the best....wooooooohooooooooooo
Booooooooooooooooooom
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Quote Originally Posted by ALTABLOCK:
Plain and simple jets over Giants in nearly every category. It's not even close. Suuma proved it
Hahahahahahahah Suuma proved it???? What by citing a bunch of stats and DVOA numbers???? You cannot compare apples to oranges and you cannot compare football teams any way other than playing a GAME! Pretty sure the Giants proved that in 2 Super bowl wins as heavy dogs against the undefeayed Pats!
Hahahahahahahah Suuma proved it???? What by citing a bunch of stats and DVOA numbers???? You cannot compare apples to oranges and you cannot compare football teams any way other than playing a GAME! Pretty sure the Giants proved that in 2 Super bowl wins as heavy dogs against the undefeayed Pats!
Giants are the best....wooooooohooooooooooo
Booooooooooooooooooom
yes because previous years effect this year. what a joke lol. having a favorite team will kill you long term.
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Quote Originally Posted by St2ee:
Hahahahahahahah Suuma proved it???? What by citing a bunch of stats and DVOA numbers???? You cannot compare apples to oranges and you cannot compare football teams any way other than playing a GAME! Pretty sure the Giants proved that in 2 Super bowl wins as heavy dogs against the undefeayed Pats!
Giants are the best....wooooooohooooooooooo
Booooooooooooooooooom
yes because previous years effect this year. what a joke lol. having a favorite team will kill you long term.
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