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    Anyone have an answer for why oddsmakers value the 49ers so much?

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 1:13 AM ET #1

    They made this trash team a favorite over KC and now a 4.5 point favorite over Dallas. I don’t remember the last time the Niners were not favored in a game. This team 2024 Niners are a shell of the SB team. All defensive depth has been lost. They have practice squad level talent across the field. Deebo is washed up, cannot separate. Kittle is sold but older. No McCaffrey. O line stinks. Trent Williams is 36 and washed up also. 

    What is it with the books and the Niners ?

    Vegas still has them 4th best odds to win the SB. Even with Aiyuk done. an_roll_laugh

    Only KC, DET and BALTY slightly ahead

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    They made this trash team a favorite over KC and now a 4.5 point favorite over Dallas. I don’t remember the last time the Niners were not favored in a game. This team 2024 Niners are a shell of the SB team. All defensive depth has been lost. They have practice squad level talent across the field. Deebo is washed up, cannot separate. Kittle is sold but older. No McCaffrey. O line stinks. Trent Williams is 36 and washed up also. 

    What is it with the books and the Niners ?

    Vegas still has them 4th best odds to win the SB. Even with Aiyuk done. an_roll_laugh

    Only KC, DET and BALTY slightly ahead

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 1:27 AM ET #2

    So Cowboys +4.5 is a play.

    GOOD LUCK

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    So Cowboys +4.5 is a play.

    GOOD LUCK

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 1:29 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Supat125:

    So Cowboys +4.5 is a play. GOOD LUCK

     

    Team total over 20.5 -125

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supat125:

    So Cowboys +4.5 is a play. GOOD LUCK

     

    Team total over 20.5 -125

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 2:21 AM ET #4

    What is going on with my team the 49ers?  Before the season started the 49ers I believe were 2nd to the chiefs as far as odds to win the super bowl.   I understand that the 49ers have had some injuries but wtf is going on?  No excuse for this piss poor start, some things need to change quickly.  

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    What is going on with my team the 49ers?  Before the season started the 49ers I believe were 2nd to the chiefs as far as odds to win the super bowl.   I understand that the 49ers have had some injuries but wtf is going on?  No excuse for this piss poor start, some things need to change quickly.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 4:57 AM ET #5

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     The 49ers have a +1.1 Yards per Play differential.  That's the 2nd best in the NFL.  The 49ers will beat Dallas by at LEAST 10 points, probably more.

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     The 49ers have a +1.1 Yards per Play differential.  That's the 2nd best in the NFL.  The 49ers will beat Dallas by at LEAST 10 points, probably more.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 5:34 AM ET #6

    They make 49ers the betting favor, they think the public will bet the 49ers. Favs are not the better team always just what the think the team the public will bet that's all.example they thought people will bet more 49ers line for revenge make them the betting favoran_speechless

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    They make 49ers the betting favor, they think the public will bet the 49ers. Favs are not the better team always just what the think the team the public will bet that's all.example they thought people will bet more 49ers line for revenge make them the betting favoran_speechless

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 1:53 AM ET #7

    Might have something to do with them being the most talented team in the nfl.

    Just a thought.

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    Might have something to do with them being the most talented team in the nfl.

    Just a thought.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 2:05 AM ET #8

    Unfortunately for them though their head coach is the biggest loser in human history.

     

    Look up "choker" in the dictionary and theres a picture of Kyle looking at the scoreboard.

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    Unfortunately for them though their head coach is the biggest loser in human history.

     

    Look up "choker" in the dictionary and theres a picture of Kyle looking at the scoreboard.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 3:39 PM ET #9

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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 3:56 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by finsterbaby:

    They make 49ers the betting favor, they think the public will bet the 49ers. Favs are not the better team always just what the think the team the public will bet that's all.example they thought people will bet more 49ers line for revenge make them the betting favor

    That correct, they don't have to set what they think the true odds, just whatever they can sell the public. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by finsterbaby:

    They make 49ers the betting favor, they think the public will bet the 49ers. Favs are not the better team always just what the think the team the public will bet that's all.example they thought people will bet more 49ers line for revenge make them the betting favor

    That correct, they don't have to set what they think the true odds, just whatever they can sell the public. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 5:29 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    Might have something to do with them being the most talented team in the nfl. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    Might have something to do with them being the most talented team in the nfl. Just a thought.

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 6:23 PM ET #12

    Kyle Shanahan's overall ATS record is 51.9%.  It is 53.2% since Mr. Irrelevant was added to the roster.

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    Kyle Shanahan's overall ATS record is 51.9%.  It is 53.2% since Mr. Irrelevant was added to the roster.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 7:25 PM ET #13

    I think you’re just salty you slammed the Niners against the Chiefs and lost. Brady retired so the new golden boy is Mahomes. No team has ever 3 peat. The NFL knows this and is playing right into it. It’s good for the storyline to let the Chiefs ride all the way to the end to see if they can pull it off.

     

    Keep viewers engaged…

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    I think you’re just salty you slammed the Niners against the Chiefs and lost. Brady retired so the new golden boy is Mahomes. No team has ever 3 peat. The NFL knows this and is playing right into it. It’s good for the storyline to let the Chiefs ride all the way to the end to see if they can pull it off.

     

    Keep viewers engaged…

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 8:20 PM ET #14

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     OTOH, some of us would prefer to see a new AFC team in the Super Bowl.

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     OTOH, some of us would prefer to see a new AFC team in the Super Bowl.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 8:51 PM ET #15

    The 49ers need a new coach. Shanahan is a bum. He can't get anything extra out of his players, his offense is predictable and he doesn't know how to make the proper adjustments in games. He's really the worse coach I've seen in 49er history if you look at the talent on their roster. He's had long enough to prove himself in San Fran. He's nothing but an escort service. Escorts them to the playoff's only to get his back kicked in while looking like an idiot on the sideline.

    Fire him and rebuild, they don't need much. A better coach will do just fine.

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    The 49ers need a new coach. Shanahan is a bum. He can't get anything extra out of his players, his offense is predictable and he doesn't know how to make the proper adjustments in games. He's really the worse coach I've seen in 49er history if you look at the talent on their roster. He's had long enough to prove himself in San Fran. He's nothing but an escort service. Escorts them to the playoff's only to get his back kicked in while looking like an idiot on the sideline.

    Fire him and rebuild, they don't need much. A better coach will do just fine.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 10:02 PM ET #16

    Shanahan is the biggest choker in Earths history

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    Shanahan is the biggest choker in Earths history

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 11:43 PM ET #17

    @ActionMagnet  and Jerry will go off the deep end.

     

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    @ActionMagnet  and Jerry will go off the deep end.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 11:48 PM ET #18

    @JimmyGape but if many key players are injured or out for a long time it does no good to say they are the most talented team. Just a thought.

     

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    @JimmyGape but if many key players are injured or out for a long time it does no good to say they are the most talented team. Just a thought.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2024 - 12:09 AM ET #19

    True but even depleted they still have a ton of talent everywhere.

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    True but even depleted they still have a ton of talent everywhere.

     
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    Chiefs have lost a lot o skilled players. Mahomes is great but he can't do it all. They do have a shut down defense but it will be tough. 9ers probably be in the NFC Championship game. The NFL loves the 49ers they are very popular and it's a great storyline to keep them winning. They just got got out played against the Chiefs. They will feel a lot more comfortable against Dallas. They won't be worried about Dak crushing the defense and making them look weak. 

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    Chiefs have lost a lot o skilled players. Mahomes is great but he can't do it all. They do have a shut down defense but it will be tough. 9ers probably be in the NFC Championship game. The NFL loves the 49ers they are very popular and it's a great storyline to keep them winning. They just got got out played against the Chiefs. They will feel a lot more comfortable against Dallas. They won't be worried about Dak crushing the defense and making them look weak. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tech65:

    Chiefs have lost a lot o skilled players. Mahomes is great but he can't do it all. They do have a shut down defense but it will be tough. 9ers probably be in the NFC Championship game. The NFL loves the 49ers they are very popular and it's a great storyline to keep them winning. They just got got out played against the Chiefs. They will feel a lot more comfortable against Dallas. They won't be worried about Dak crushing the defense and making them look weak.

    The entire nfc north says, "hold my beer"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech65:

    Chiefs have lost a lot o skilled players. Mahomes is great but he can't do it all. They do have a shut down defense but it will be tough. 9ers probably be in the NFC Championship game. The NFL loves the 49ers they are very popular and it's a great storyline to keep them winning. They just got got out played against the Chiefs. They will feel a lot more comfortable against Dallas. They won't be worried about Dak crushing the defense and making them look weak.

    The entire nfc north says, "hold my beer"

     
     
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    Dude please.  Shanahan's ONLY flaw is that he REFUSES to adjust to his QB and instead forces the QB to adjust to him and his offensive philosophy.  This is the reason he brought Mahomes in for a private workout in 2017 but decided to draft Solomon Thomas and CJ Beathard instead!  This is the reason why he panicked when the media and fans started getting chippy about Jimmy garbage G and he moved up for the "athletic" kid bust with potential who could never learn his offense, to begin with.  It was a smoke and mirrors act to buy his coaching staff time to develop a project QB with potential.  Why?  Because Shanny's biggest flaw is the garbage unathletic QBs he forces his teams to use.  

    Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, Brain Hoyer, CJ Beathard, Nick Mullens, Jimmy G, Brock Purdy....

    If this retard would take a chance on a Jayden Daniels-type QB, the Niners would have had 2 SB trophies under him by now.  Instead, he forces these garbage QBs like Jimmy G and Purdy to run his complicated offensive system that requires zero athleticism or QB talent to run.

    I say all of that to say this; Purdy like Jimmy G ARE the problem, not Shanahan!

    I have been a Niner faithful since Steve Young days.  I have seen nothing but garbage QBs play for the Niners since Jeff Garcia.  Kaepernick had a chance but he couldn't grow/evolve fast enough and was ultimately fool's gold.  Niner fans are sooo accustomed to garbage QB play that they actually think Purdy ISN'T the issue here!  LMAO.

    So glad Purdy is getting ruthlessly exposed for the joke of a QB that he is.

     

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    Dude please.  Shanahan's ONLY flaw is that he REFUSES to adjust to his QB and instead forces the QB to adjust to him and his offensive philosophy.  This is the reason he brought Mahomes in for a private workout in 2017 but decided to draft Solomon Thomas and CJ Beathard instead!  This is the reason why he panicked when the media and fans started getting chippy about Jimmy garbage G and he moved up for the "athletic" kid bust with potential who could never learn his offense, to begin with.  It was a smoke and mirrors act to buy his coaching staff time to develop a project QB with potential.  Why?  Because Shanny's biggest flaw is the garbage unathletic QBs he forces his teams to use.  

    Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, Brain Hoyer, CJ Beathard, Nick Mullens, Jimmy G, Brock Purdy....

    If this retard would take a chance on a Jayden Daniels-type QB, the Niners would have had 2 SB trophies under him by now.  Instead, he forces these garbage QBs like Jimmy G and Purdy to run his complicated offensive system that requires zero athleticism or QB talent to run.

    I say all of that to say this; Purdy like Jimmy G ARE the problem, not Shanahan!

    I have been a Niner faithful since Steve Young days.  I have seen nothing but garbage QBs play for the Niners since Jeff Garcia.  Kaepernick had a chance but he couldn't grow/evolve fast enough and was ultimately fool's gold.  Niner fans are sooo accustomed to garbage QB play that they actually think Purdy ISN'T the issue here!  LMAO.

    So glad Purdy is getting ruthlessly exposed for the joke of a QB that he is.

     

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