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    BEARS SUCKS!!!

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    pistol23
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2024 - 3:33 PM ET #26

    They are terrible.. unwatchable 

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    They are terrible.. unwatchable 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2024 - 3:35 PM ET #27

    Not watching the game, but I see from stat line he's been sack 7x times.

    Is he holding onto the ball too long or is the o-line that bad?

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    Not watching the game, but I see from stat line he's been sack 7x times.

    Is he holding onto the ball too long or is the o-line that bad?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2024 - 3:36 PM ET #28

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     The Redskins thank the bears for making the wrong selection 

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    @undermysac

     The Redskins thank the bears for making the wrong selection 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2024 - 3:46 PM ET #29

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2024 - 4:08 PM ET #30

    Fwiw 

    There was a time when qb’s sat and learned for two-three years.

    Only then, were they thrown into the mix.

    Doesn’t always happen in todays NFL

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Fwiw 

    There was a time when qb’s sat and learned for two-three years.

    Only then, were they thrown into the mix.

    Doesn’t always happen in todays NFL

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2024 - 4:09 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuno144:

    Not watching the game, but I see from stat line he's been sack 7x times. Is he holding onto the ball too long or is the o-line that bad?

    A little of both.

     Bears starting tackles didn't play. Then guard Tevin Jenkins went out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuno144:

    Not watching the game, but I see from stat line he's been sack 7x times. Is he holding onto the ball too long or is the o-line that bad?

    A little of both.

     Bears starting tackles didn't play. Then guard Tevin Jenkins went out.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 10:06 AM ET #32

    I give Williams a C+ in this game considering the circumstances.

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    I give Williams a C+ in this game considering the circumstances.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 10:12 AM ET #33

    Mahomes couldnt save this non blocking o line....an_wink

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    Mahomes couldnt save this non blocking o line....an_wink

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 10:21 AM ET #34

    ]

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Mahomes couldnt save this non blocking o line....
    exactly, some people can watch a game and rush to say a qb sucks because they lost a bet while others see the reasons why he isn't able to have success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Mahomes couldnt save this non blocking o line....
    exactly, some people can watch a game and rush to say a qb sucks because they lost a bet while others see the reasons why he isn't able to have success.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 10:58 AM ET #35

    Williams isn't a bust, on the few occasions the oline blocks for him he looks very good.  

    He also has terrible coaching 

    When their careers are over Williams will be the best of the bunch.

    Daniels won't hold up in the NFL long term

    Nix lol

    Maye will be decent 

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    Williams isn't a bust, on the few occasions the oline blocks for him he looks very good.  

    He also has terrible coaching 

    When their careers are over Williams will be the best of the bunch.

    Daniels won't hold up in the NFL long term

    Nix lol

    Maye will be decent 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 11:04 AM ET #36

    What game has the bears played so far this season that would make anyone bet on them tho? 

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    What game has the bears played so far this season that would make anyone bet on them tho? 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 11:26 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976:

    What game has the bears played so far this season that would make anyone bet on them tho?
    carolina and jacksonville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976:

    What game has the bears played so far this season that would make anyone bet on them tho?
    carolina and jacksonville

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 11:35 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuno144: Not watching the game, but I see from stat line he's been sack 7x times. Is he holding onto the ball too long or is the o-line that bad? A little of both.  Bears starting tackles didn't play. Then guard Tevin Jenkins went out.

    ended up a total of 9 sacks

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuno144: Not watching the game, but I see from stat line he's been sack 7x times. Is he holding onto the ball too long or is the o-line that bad? A little of both.  Bears starting tackles didn't play. Then guard Tevin Jenkins went out.

    ended up a total of 9 sacks

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 11:41 AM ET #39

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     I guess it figures though, right? Chicago has a real knack for selecting QB's that suck. I think it's a dead heat with Cleveland, places where young and promising QB's go to fail.

    Regarding your mention of rookie QB's starting too soon, I'm unsure how historically how many have busted. Stroud and Daniels, and to a lesser extent Nix seem to be the exception to that rule. The pressure to win now figures in that equation.

    The hospital? It's a big building with patients.
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    @IntenseOperator

     I guess it figures though, right? Chicago has a real knack for selecting QB's that suck. I think it's a dead heat with Cleveland, places where young and promising QB's go to fail.

    Regarding your mention of rookie QB's starting too soon, I'm unsure how historically how many have busted. Stroud and Daniels, and to a lesser extent Nix seem to be the exception to that rule. The pressure to win now figures in that equation.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 11:48 AM ET #40

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     Some just have to grow/learn/age....with a couple seasons on the sideline. (Look at GB's last three qb's)

    You can't throw every one in the water. Some you can. Not Caleb. He's starting to show cracks already. 

    Fields just wasn't able to become an NFL starting QB. He will be a quality lifetime backup.

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    @Knollywood100

     Some just have to grow/learn/age....with a couple seasons on the sideline. (Look at GB's last three qb's)

    You can't throw every one in the water. Some you can. Not Caleb. He's starting to show cracks already. 

    Fields just wasn't able to become an NFL starting QB. He will be a quality lifetime backup.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 11:59 AM ET #41

    despite bears offensive line woes nix and williams numbers are practically the same with nix having played 1 more game than williams. nix also has the 5th best defense as far as yds given up a game. broncos have the best pass blocking offensive line in the league. 

     

    through 10 games

    nix - avg. 197 yds/game passing, 6.1 yds/completion, 10 tds 6 ints, sacked 17 times, 4.8 yds/rush,  4 rushing tds, denver scores 19.7 points per game, denver's record 5-5

     

    through 9 games

    williams- avg. 198 yds/game passing, 6.1 yds/completion, 9 tds 5 ints, sacked 38 times, 5.9 yds/rush, 0 rushing tds, chicago scores 19.4 points per game, chicago's record 4-5

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    despite bears offensive line woes nix and williams numbers are practically the same with nix having played 1 more game than williams. nix also has the 5th best defense as far as yds given up a game. broncos have the best pass blocking offensive line in the league. 

     

    through 10 games

    nix - avg. 197 yds/game passing, 6.1 yds/completion, 10 tds 6 ints, sacked 17 times, 4.8 yds/rush,  4 rushing tds, denver scores 19.7 points per game, denver's record 5-5

     

    through 9 games

    williams- avg. 198 yds/game passing, 6.1 yds/completion, 9 tds 5 ints, sacked 38 times, 5.9 yds/rush, 0 rushing tds, chicago scores 19.4 points per game, chicago's record 4-5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 12:45 PM ET #42

    Williams was hanging on to the ball way to long on most of the sacks. If the Oline isn't very good and banged up at the same time get rid of the ball quickly. He looks scared to do that and he has lots of weapons. No TD's in 2 games is beyond brutal for this offense. thumbs_down

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    Williams was hanging on to the ball way to long on most of the sacks. If the Oline isn't very good and banged up at the same time get rid of the ball quickly. He looks scared to do that and he has lots of weapons. No TD's in 2 games is beyond brutal for this offense. thumbs_down

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 12:58 PM ET #43

    They didnt recover from the Hail Mary...peace_5

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    They didnt recover from the Hail Mary...peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 1:04 PM ET #44

    it's easy to say someone holds the ball too long when you can't see down the field on television and they rarely show replays of receivers running downfield and if nobody is open and/or havent almost completed their route then that's why you're holding the ball contrasted to maye who had clean pockets all day long.

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    it's easy to say someone holds the ball too long when you can't see down the field on television and they rarely show replays of receivers running downfield and if nobody is open and/or havent almost completed their route then that's why you're holding the ball contrasted to maye who had clean pockets all day long.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 2:05 PM ET #45

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     You call plays that allow the QB to get rid of the ball quickly. You ever heard of a slant or even some screen plays to slow down the pass rush. Quick throws outside work as well.  Did New England's secondary become good all of a sudden? Why are they calling 20 plus yard plays down the field when the Oline is hurting and the QB is playing scared. confused

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     You call plays that allow the QB to get rid of the ball quickly. You ever heard of a slant or even some screen plays to slow down the pass rush. Quick throws outside work as well.  Did New England's secondary become good all of a sudden? Why are they calling 20 plus yard plays down the field when the Oline is hurting and the QB is playing scared. confused

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 2:07 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976: What game has the bears played so far this season that would make anyone bet on them tho?carolina and jacksonville

    Bears are a mediocre organization that can dominate other mediocre organizations teams from time to time, but I’d think twice about backing them vs good organization teams like Steelers 49ers chiefs ravens etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosswin97:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976: What game has the bears played so far this season that would make anyone bet on them tho?carolina and jacksonville

    Bears are a mediocre organization that can dominate other mediocre organizations teams from time to time, but I’d think twice about backing them vs good organization teams like Steelers 49ers chiefs ravens etc

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 3:27 PM ET #47

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     Home crowd in Chicago expect their bears to be the monsters of the midway, sad that all the talent they possess on both sides of the ball and year in and year out produce this.  The coaching staff needs to be let go, and their ceo that thinks this is acceptable also needs to find the door.  The bears using their first rounds to find their next McMahon, won’t lead to much if they cannot find their next coach Coach Ditka. 

    “Hold fast, to the iron rod.”
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    @IntenseOperator

     Home crowd in Chicago expect their bears to be the monsters of the midway, sad that all the talent they possess on both sides of the ball and year in and year out produce this.  The coaching staff needs to be let go, and their ceo that thinks this is acceptable also needs to find the door.  The bears using their first rounds to find their next McMahon, won’t lead to much if they cannot find their next coach Coach Ditka. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 3:33 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleakhouse:

    They are ass because their Oline is useless
    Fields last years kicking dog. This year Williams. Can’t throw with 600 lbs of muscle in your face. Block you mother ——ers.         Thank you, I’m done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleakhouse:

    They are ass because their Oline is useless
    Fields last years kicking dog. This year Williams. Can’t throw with 600 lbs of muscle in your face. Block you mother ——ers.         Thank you, I’m done.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2024 - 3:37 PM ET #49

    The last two or even since Rex Grossman, drafts qb to play their first year in Chicago, wow not gonna happen.  Than the blame gets held to a college player, that was going to be their savior, it’s comical to me.  We get to listen to  all the so called experts all week long regarding another bear quarter back, unreal that the coaching staff can even come to work week in and week out, guess a weekly paycheck is easier to obtain when you show up to the hall and continue to fake this shit.

    “Hold fast, to the iron rod.”
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    The last two or even since Rex Grossman, drafts qb to play their first year in Chicago, wow not gonna happen.  Than the blame gets held to a college player, that was going to be their savior, it’s comical to me.  We get to listen to  all the so called experts all week long regarding another bear quarter back, unreal that the coaching staff can even come to work week in and week out, guess a weekly paycheck is easier to obtain when you show up to the hall and continue to fake this shit.

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