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    Posted: May. 6, 2015 - 1:34 PM ET #1

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/ted-wells-more-probable-than-not-patriots-manipulated-balls

    Let me know if this link works, and what you think........
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    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/ted-wells-more-probable-than-not-patriots-manipulated-balls

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    Posted: May. 6, 2015 - 1:47 PM ET #2

    “Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”
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    “Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”
     
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    The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
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    Posted: May. 6, 2015 - 2:18 PM ET #4

    What would be a likely "discipline" for Tom Brady?
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    Probably....and generally? Hahaha....nice report....my girlfriend might be half pregnant....
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    Probably....and generally? Hahaha....nice report....my girlfriend might be half pregnant....
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2015 - 11:24 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:

    What would be a likely "discipline" for Tom Brady?

    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   
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    What would be a likely "discipline" for Tom Brady?

    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    “Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”


    I love the "more probable than not" line. 
    Talk about trying to say something bad without trying to say something really bad....
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    “Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”


    I love the "more probable than not" line. 
    Talk about trying to say something bad without trying to say something really bad....
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 12:32 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   


    Hey Europa enjoy the offseason.

    Tired of Roger Goodell.  Who isn't.
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    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   


    Hey Europa enjoy the offseason.

    Tired of Roger Goodell.  Who isn't.
     
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    Banned from visiting the white house? 


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    Banned from visiting the white house? 


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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 1:31 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   


    Okay. I thought about one or two games banned. But that would be a joke. You are right, it's all about money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   


    Okay. I thought about one or two games banned. But that would be a joke. You are right, it's all about money.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



    Hey Europa enjoy the offseason.

    Tired of Roger Goodell.  Who isn't.

    Bud, yeah it's a long NFL offseason but i'm hanging with NBA and NHL playoffs with few bucks a play. Good to talk ya again. 

    Goodell says some discipline actions are coming against who violated the rules, i am not sure what kind of discipline measures Goodell will impose? Tom Brady one game suspension? Wow!!    
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    Hey Europa enjoy the offseason.

    Tired of Roger Goodell.  Who isn't.

    Bud, yeah it's a long NFL offseason but i'm hanging with NBA and NHL playoffs with few bucks a play. Good to talk ya again. 

    Goodell says some discipline actions are coming against who violated the rules, i am not sure what kind of discipline measures Goodell will impose? Tom Brady one game suspension? Wow!!    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    Okay. I thought about one or two games banned. But that would be a joke. You are right, it's all about money.

    Likewise, Suuma. A symbolic one game ban is most likely against Tom Brady, yeah it would be a joke. 
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    Okay. I thought about one or two games banned. But that would be a joke. You are right, it's all about money.

    Likewise, Suuma. A symbolic one game ban is most likely against Tom Brady, yeah it would be a joke. 
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 1:54 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   


    Patriots outscored the Colts 28-0 in the second half with properly inflated footballs

    Brady 37-50 with over 300 yards in SuperBowl with properly inflated footballs

    nothing to see here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    My guess would be some of verbal warning, and that's about it. NFL is all about money, Pats have already won that AFC Championship game against Colts, that game is in the book. Nothing will change.   


    Patriots outscored the Colts 28-0 in the second half with properly inflated footballs

    Brady 37-50 with over 300 yards in SuperBowl with properly inflated footballs

    nothing to see here


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:



    Patriots outscored the Colts 28-0 in the second half with properly inflated footballs

    Brady 37-50 with over 300 yards in SuperBowl with properly inflated footballs

    nothing to see here




    Nobody with a brain would question that. But we are talking about the fact that he "probably" - according to the report - was cheating.

    If LeBron James takes some doping in game 6 of the finals and he goes for a triple-double in a game-seven-win without doping, he is still a cheater, isn't he ?
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    Patriots outscored the Colts 28-0 in the second half with properly inflated footballs

    Brady 37-50 with over 300 yards in SuperBowl with properly inflated footballs

    nothing to see here




    Nobody with a brain would question that. But we are talking about the fact that he "probably" - according to the report - was cheating.

    If LeBron James takes some doping in game 6 of the finals and he goes for a triple-double in a game-seven-win without doping, he is still a cheater, isn't he ?
     
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    It boggles the mind that people dismiss cheating cuz  pats would have 1 anyway or Brady is still HOF talent.   Cheating is cheating.   
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    tom bradys punishment--he has to throw lefty--pats still win
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Hey Europa enjoy the offseason.Tired of Roger Goodell.  Who isn't.
    Bud, yeah it's a long NFL offseason but i'm hanging with NBA and NHL playoffs with few bucks a play. Good to talk ya again. Goodell says some discipline actions are coming against who violated the rules, i am not sure what kind of discipline measures Goodell will impose? Tom Brady one game suspension? Wow!!

    Knowing Goodell it will be harsh

    Guy just grates me. He can make mistakes but nobody else can. Against New Jersey sports betting. Unpopular guy

    Not sure how you can accuse Brady without proof. Just fix the issue and move on instead Goodell points his finger

    Enjoy the off-season football is coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Hey Europa enjoy the offseason.Tired of Roger Goodell.  Who isn't.
    Bud, yeah it's a long NFL offseason but i'm hanging with NBA and NHL playoffs with few bucks a play. Good to talk ya again. Goodell says some discipline actions are coming against who violated the rules, i am not sure what kind of discipline measures Goodell will impose? Tom Brady one game suspension? Wow!!

    Knowing Goodell it will be harsh

    Guy just grates me. He can make mistakes but nobody else can. Against New Jersey sports betting. Unpopular guy

    Not sure how you can accuse Brady without proof. Just fix the issue and move on instead Goodell points his finger

    Enjoy the off-season football is coming
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 10:10 AM ET #19

    Is the career of George Brett tainted because of the pine tar incident ?
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    The Patriots have most likely been cheating for 15 years. The same ball boy was written up for an incident in 2004 for using unregulated practice balls in games.

    All Patriot fans will blindly defend BB and Brady, but the fact of the matter is football is a game of inches. The Patriots were gaining a small advantage by cheating. (A small advantage is still an advantage)

    I am all for small cheating if you can get a way with it in sports, but if you get caught you need to do the time. Most Likely they have been cheating for 15 years and Brady MUST be suspended. 5 games and I'll be happy, anything less is a slap in the face to the integrity of the league. There is no way around the fact Brady cheated, got caught, and lied about it. That is 10000% fact.

    Ted Wells is a clown. Every patriot fan was quick with a joke when Wells did he report on Incognito / Martin. Haha how does it feel now??

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    The Patriots have most likely been cheating for 15 years. The same ball boy was written up for an incident in 2004 for using unregulated practice balls in games.

    All Patriot fans will blindly defend BB and Brady, but the fact of the matter is football is a game of inches. The Patriots were gaining a small advantage by cheating. (A small advantage is still an advantage)

    I am all for small cheating if you can get a way with it in sports, but if you get caught you need to do the time. Most Likely they have been cheating for 15 years and Brady MUST be suspended. 5 games and I'll be happy, anything less is a slap in the face to the integrity of the league. There is no way around the fact Brady cheated, got caught, and lied about it. That is 10000% fact.

    Ted Wells is a clown. Every patriot fan was quick with a joke when Wells did he report on Incognito / Martin. Haha how does it feel now??

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 1:13 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    Is the career of George Brett tainted because of the pine tar incident ?

    Yeah and No

    Bring up the name George Brett and whats the first thing anyone thinks of. Pine Tar...Brett was also pretty much cleared and the game counted as a win for the Royals...Tom Brady will not be cleared of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    Is the career of George Brett tainted because of the pine tar incident ?

    Yeah and No

    Bring up the name George Brett and whats the first thing anyone thinks of. Pine Tar...Brett was also pretty much cleared and the game counted as a win for the Royals...Tom Brady will not be cleared of anything.

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 1:47 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:

    What would be a likely "discipline" for Tom Brady?


    Made to try to complete a pass over 10 yards 
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    Made to try to complete a pass over 10 yards 
     
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    Made to try to complete a pass over 10 yards 

    Lol so true Brady is highly overrated and people still worship this guy.
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    Made to try to complete a pass over 10 yards 

    Lol so true Brady is highly overrated and people still worship this guy.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 5:44 PM ET #24

    my question is why isn't anyone talking about the colts balls? 3 of the 4 tested balls during the same game were under inflated, and when the officials were asked why didn't they test all the colts balls they said they didn't have time. im not a pats fan, unfortunately im a brown, but im really curious why the colts get a pass. is it because ppl are sick of seeing the pats win?

     

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    my question is why isn't anyone talking about the colts balls? 3 of the 4 tested balls during the same game were under inflated, and when the officials were asked why didn't they test all the colts balls they said they didn't have time. im not a pats fan, unfortunately im a brown, but im really curious why the colts get a pass. is it because ppl are sick of seeing the pats win?

     

     
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2015 - 6:16 PM ET #25

    Brady will sit a couple games is my guess

    He will be pissed and will have a great year - draft him
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    Brady will sit a couple games is my guess

    He will be pissed and will have a great year - draft him
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